What would the cops do?

Dash

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Its pretty late. I'm about to hit the sack. But before I do. I wanted to make a quick post about a very serious issue...that really pisses me off. Maybe you guys can help me out with this one. If there's anyone well-versed in the law, maybe you can offer some advice, what to do in a situation like this. Here goes.

I was coming out of the 711, with my coffee and I crossed the street to wait at the bus stop. Anyways, the bus is taking 20 minutes or more to arrive, meanwhile I'm just standing there staring at the 711 across the street. This really young couple.A fat, young ugly dumb girl and guy are walking to stand right outside the 711 with a little, young pup of a dog on a leash. Really cute, lively, energetic golden retriever pup. They stand around the outside of the 711, trying to decide what to do, where to go, obviously talking about it for five minutes. Then, they decide something.

This is the part that pisses me off. They finally come to a decision to get something in the 711. Meanwhile, I'm suspecting nothing. The dog is a little energetic. Keeps wanting to go here and there, so the guy takes the leash and starts tying him up to the post.

The young pup is obviously loyal and runs up to the guy. The guy slaps the pup's head really harshly, in a very angry and very annoyed way. as if you're swatting at an annoying insect.

The pup seemed phased for a second. Then the guy moved closer to the post to fasten the leash tighter around the post. And then for no apparent reason, while the pup was doing nothing at all, standing on all fours and wagging his tail. The guy clearly and no I'm not mistaken, the guy clearly kicked the dog in his midsection. Really hard. For NO REASON AT ALL. And it wasn't a playful kick either. It was a brutal one.

I'm witnessing this from across the street. My first gut reaction was to go across the street and confront this guy whom was taller than me and the dumb fat chick. The dumb chick didn't say anything. She was right there and she clearly saw it but didn't nothing at all. She just sat her fat ass on the curb.

They were both young. Younger than their 20s. 18 or 19. Confront them and start wailing on them. Give them a really loud piece of my mind.

But sure. Say that I did do that. I walk across the street and say hey, wtf you doing?! really loud. What does that accomplish? They simply say fuck off. its not your dog. We can do what we want with it. We own it! Its our dog! Beat it! Get the fuck out of here! Leave us alone! Go get your own dog!

What I'm asking is. According to the law, if I'm witnessing this. Is there anything in the law that states that if I witness some sort of physical abuse inflicted upon an animal and I call the police and give them my testimony of what I just saw this couple do with the pup; what would the police be able to do upon a situation like this?

I mean. Even if they confiscated or removed the dog from their possession and took it to the pound. At least it has a chance at being out of their cruel, abusive hands and in the care of more caring owners.

Say for example, I witness a mother physically beating up on her little 4 year old kid. Same thing, same situation in my opinion. A defenseless, weaker kid who can't defend himself or call for help, and is dependent upon the abuser? A defenseless, weaker animal who can't defend itself or call for help, and is dependent upon the abuser?

Witnessing this guy slap his puppy and kick it in the midsection is probably not the only time he physically beat this young puppy. Obviously he physically abused it many more times when I wasn't there to witness it.

Talk about feeling helpless.

When I see this, do I just stand there and watch? Does the law state anything about witnessing a crime in progress like this? Or does the law even recognize this is a crime, at all?
 

tboy

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That's animal cruelty and you should have called the humane society immediately or the cops. there's been a few cases in the papers about things like this and the owners are charged.

The charges aren't that severe for animal cruelty but at the very least the puppy would have been removed and put up for adoption by someone who wouldn't mistreat it.....

I for one would have confronted them while on the phone with the cops.....

Just remember: you're not helpless. If you EVER witness something you feel isn't right, call the cops, that's what they are there for....
 

LancsLad

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I agree with tboy, the Huane Society should be told. They clearly live in that area and you have a good enoughdescription of them that even a rudimentary canvass would ID them.

Later you can get 4 really large and drunk buddies to tie that bastard to a tree and kick him in the midsection a few times.
 

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Animal cruelty is a crime , I'd simply call the police in such situation and use my phone camera if possible. And an additional call to the local TV station, eg. CITY TV, may help to get the incident out.

Defintely ,some fucking assholes...
 

TheNiteHwk

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What would the cops do?

Nothing.

I seen an accident a few weeks ago where there were personal injuries, the intersection was all tied up, traffic was snarled for blocks. The cops took almost 3 hours to get there. Imagine how long it would take them to come to 711 because someone kicked a dog.. Sadly way too long... the guy would be long gone.

The 711 I'll bet have video. Maybe the guy is not vissble kicking the dog... but at the time you could have gone in and asked to see they guy on video for ID purposes and call Humane Society. If your willing to give up hours of your time waiting and then repeating your story over and over for 1/2 dozen different people MAYBE the guy will get charged or warned. I know it's sad, but that's the reality of it. Go home and forget about it.
 

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I agree with Mr. Tboy...and with the sentiments of Mr. LancsLad. Anyone who would abuse an animal in such a cruel way deserves to be confronted and held accountable for their actions. Had you approached and spoken to this jerk and things then got of out of hand, remember that the 7/11 employee would've called the Police. Even if these actions provided no result...the jerk walks away...the Police don't respond, etc. at least you would've known that you made the effort and that effort might have produced better results...the jerk is charged, his dog is taken from him, etc. Just my two cents worth. Sincerely, Jon .
 

Jade4u

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I am also thinking it may not be too late if it is on a camera from the 7 11. Maybe if you called the humane society and told them it may be recorded on thier camera maybe they could follow up on it themselves?
 

Hockey_MLnut

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I also agree with tboy. The Humane Society would have taken the dog away and the cops would have helped with this. If you see this again you should lay the smack down so to speak.
 

TheNiteHwk

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acutus said:
I agree with Mr. Tboy...and with the sentiments of Mr. LancsLad. Anyone who would abuse an animal in such a cruel way deserves to be confronted and held accountable for their actions. Had you approached and spoken to this jerk and things then got of out of hand, remember that the 7/11 employee would've called the Police. Even if these actions provided no result...the jerk walks away...the Police don't respond, etc. at least you would've known that you made the effort and that effort might have produced better results...the jerk is charged, his dog is taken from him, etc. Just my two cents worth. Sincerely, Jon .
In some parts of GTA... the results might be you get shot for your efforts. The 711 guy in most cases will not call cops unless something happens inside his store. IF the guy gets charged, then you have to go to court be a witness etc. after about 1/2 dozen remands all of them costing you time off work and hundreds of $$.... the guy will get a warning if that.

freshbreath said:
next time wait until they go inside, and go free the pup
take it to the humane society so it could be adopted again
You think the girl will sit there and do nothing if you try to steal her man's dog? She sat there and watched him kick the dog because he has her trained too. Also the dog is loyal to owner... he will not go with you willingly. He will run to his owner. If the guy comes out he will accuse you of trying to steal his dog. If the police do get involves (which is not very likely) they will tell you that your intentions are all well and good but you cannot steal the dog. He may charge YOU!

The only chance you might have is if there was a cop riding by 10 seconds after this happened and you flag him down. If the cop is not on his way to a priority call he will give the guy a talking too. Other wise like I say... It would make me mad too... but go home and vent on TERB then forget about it.
 

LancsLad

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Thats why you quietly get the guys name and some night when he is out , well..... things can happen, people do take nasty stumbles in the dark.

Vote Paul Kersey for Police Chief.
 

danmand

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Get the humane society, the cops would not come; It was a 7/11, not a Tim Hortons.
 

TheNiteHwk

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LancsLad said:
Thats why you quietly get the guys name and some night when he is out , well..... things can happen, people do take nasty stumbles in the dark.
LancsLad said:
Later you can get 4 really large and drunk buddies to tie that bastard to a tree and kick him in the midsection a few times.

^^^^what he said^^^^
 

Cassini

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The really sick thing about this is that an abused puppy can then grow up to be a dangerous dog. The dog winds up paying twice. Especially if someone gets bit.

Dogs can be well trained and socialized and become excellent pets. It is sad when someone doesn't know how to take care of them.
 

acutus

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TheNiteHwk said:
In some parts of GTA... the results might be you get shot for your efforts. The 711 guy in most cases will not call cops unless something happens inside his store. IF the guy gets charged, then you have to go to court be a witness etc. after about 1/2 dozen remands all of them costing you time off work and hundreds of $$.... the guy will get a warning if that.
With that kind of attitude no one would bother to stop and help out in any situation for fear of 'not wanting to get involved'. I like dogs; and as Mr. Cassini has suggested, how a dog is raised/socialized can effect all of us in the community, either directly or indirectly. I have no problem setting the example if and when the situation(s) allows. Sincerely, Jon .
 

james t kirk

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Normally, I'd say the cops wouldn't come because they tend to be very lazy, however, cops are dog lovers too.

They might come.

One thing's for sure, you won't know if you don't call them.
 
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