Just wondering, with all the talk about the Red Sox Mookie Betts, Asrtos José Altuve who's having a great year average wise and maybe the twins Brian Dozier for MVP consideration what about double E. I mean 42 HRs / 122 RBIs he should be mentioned. Although Ortiz is have a farewell tour to remember ( I bet you would of loved to have a farewell tour like Ortiz. eh ARod) he's not a position player. I think double E should be considered. Who's your choice?
Who's your choice for AL MVP
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Didn't edwin have 30 80 at the all star break, has tailed off too much at the end, none of the jays deserve it. Should be trout but it won't be, maybe Ortiz as a parting gift, probably a sox player as I don't really know any Indian or ranger players worthy. Altuve has dropped off lately.
Definitely won't be dozier because of their record, would be trout before him.
Although I guess there's a dozen or so games left for eddy, if he and the jays finish strong and he finishes with 46 135 maybe then he is considered as he isn't given much credit for his defence.
The window closed fairly quickly on this jays team, they seemed to blow their wad last year.
Betts for me.
Definitely won't be dozier because of their record, would be trout before him.
Although I guess there's a dozen or so games left for eddy, if he and the jays finish strong and he finishes with 46 135 maybe then he is considered as he isn't given much credit for his defence.
The window closed fairly quickly on this jays team, they seemed to blow their wad last year.
Betts for me.
I blame Gibbons. The Jays didn't sneak up on anyone this year, all the AL teams made adjustments to the Jays hitters, throwing more off speed pitches, curves, sliders change ups and Gibbons hasn't made any adjustments...at all. He doesn't put contact plays on, doesn't call for a bunt when it's called for, like a man on second none out down by a run or tied. In the late innings of a game 6, 7, 8 or 9th where the Jays haven't been hitting the opposing pitcher why not lay down a bunt, call for a hit and run play or a steal. I don't care who's up to bat, Donaldson, Bautista, Encarnación or Tulowitzki they should all check there egos at the door and do WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO WIN! I guess sacrificing yourself by using a bunt isn't clamorous. It's up to the manager to make sure that the players adjust when the game plan isn't working.
Remember the deciding game last year of the ALCS against Kansas City ? Man on 2nd and 3rd, none out, down by a run and couldn't get the tying run across the plate, perfect time for a bunt down 3rd base side,
if it didn't work out you advanced the runner from 2nd to 3rd with one out. But NOOOOO lets go for the fences we have the power. One thing about power, keep using it and eventually you run out of it.
My pick for Jays MVP is double E, no question. Last year Trout lost it because of his August slump, this year Donaldsons September slump will cost him.
Pick for AL MVP Betts, unless, like you said, they give it to Ortiz as a retirement gift.
Remember the deciding game last year of the ALCS against Kansas City ? Man on 2nd and 3rd, none out, down by a run and couldn't get the tying run across the plate, perfect time for a bunt down 3rd base side,
if it didn't work out you advanced the runner from 2nd to 3rd with one out. But NOOOOO lets go for the fences we have the power. One thing about power, keep using it and eventually you run out of it.
My pick for Jays MVP is double E, no question. Last year Trout lost it because of his August slump, this year Donaldsons September slump will cost him.
Pick for AL MVP Betts, unless, like you said, they give it to Ortiz as a retirement gift.
^^^^^^sounds great in a fantasy world but none of them know how to bunt, plus bunting is rare nowadays. Hard to teach a major leaguer to bunt, they should know by now. TheRe should still be a wc game, if they happen to sweep the sox everyone will be back on the wagon, can't see it happening though.
I'd like to see madden or the former leyland manage this team and see the difference. A lot of egos for gibbons to deal with and he doesn't really have the cred to keep them in line. He'll take the fall and he seems like a good guy too, not that that really matters.
I'd like to see madden or the former leyland manage this team and see the difference. A lot of egos for gibbons to deal with and he doesn't really have the cred to keep them in line. He'll take the fall and he seems like a good guy too, not that that really matters.
Edwin Encarnacion is not a serious contender compared to Betts or Altuve.
Betts and Altuve are both shoe ins ahead of EE. EE would need a monster last 10 games offensively and team wise. They all have similar OPS (as a really basic modern stat - well Altuve has a bit of a gap ahead) and both Betts and Altuve are outstanding defenisve players.
The Astros late push is going to help Altuve. If they somehow make the Wildcard I can see him and Betts being neck and neck.
Yes maurice93 I agree with you on this. I think it will be Betts, although I hate the fact that a player gets more consideration because there on a playoff team. If you have a great season and your team is nowhere near the playoffs you should still get the MVP. It will be close, real close.
Where would the Jays be if Happ did not have this kind of year? - out of the WC spot
I'd give award to Happ, but unfortunately he won't even be considered since pitchers have the Cy Young.
I'd give award to Happ, but unfortunately he won't even be considered since pitchers have the Cy Young.
There are 10 pitchers that have won both the Cy Young and the MVP award in the same season. The most recent pitchers were Kershaw (2014) and Verlander (2011).
AL MVP - Jose Altuve HOU. .338 BA 216 hits 42 doubles. 24 HR. 96 RBI. 108 runs scored. And to top it off stole 30 bases. Sick. I don't care if Houston didn't make the playoffs those are MVP numbers across the board.
AL Cy Young - Rick Porcello BOS. 22-4 with a 3.15 ERA and 1.00 WHIP, that is simply outstanding for an AL starting pitcher. Zach Britton also deserves some consideration but I have a hard time giving it to a closer.
NL MVP - Tough choice but I'll go with Kris Bryant CHC. He did everything and his team is in the playoffs. You can make a good argument for Daniel Murphy or Nolan Arenado though.
NL Cy Young - Max Scherzer WAS. He got the magical 20 wins but even more importantly he ate up innings. 228 of them. And punched out 284 batters. Yes Cubs pitcher Kyle Hendricks had a much better ERA 2.13 but he won 16 games and didn't reach 200 innings pitched.
AL Cy Young - Rick Porcello BOS. 22-4 with a 3.15 ERA and 1.00 WHIP, that is simply outstanding for an AL starting pitcher. Zach Britton also deserves some consideration but I have a hard time giving it to a closer.
NL MVP - Tough choice but I'll go with Kris Bryant CHC. He did everything and his team is in the playoffs. You can make a good argument for Daniel Murphy or Nolan Arenado though.
NL Cy Young - Max Scherzer WAS. He got the magical 20 wins but even more importantly he ate up innings. 228 of them. And punched out 284 batters. Yes Cubs pitcher Kyle Hendricks had a much better ERA 2.13 but he won 16 games and didn't reach 200 innings pitched.
