Ah, the married issue, well it is complicated and we all have different situations. Friendship and sex don't always go gland in gland!!
Why do clients want to change Sps ?
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Or her name is Hillary Clinton.Alexis696969 said:
Actually in asia, having mistresses is tolerated to some degree as long as it is kept under control.
And of course there is the famous offer from Masha Kirilenko
http://www.sltrib.com/sports/ci_3561131
Fair enough but you're probably better off telling him "no" regardless. Sounds like he is getting possessive and while he might agree to your terms simply so he wouldn't lose contact with you, you know that it will be on his mind and it will only build up inside. It is best to cut it off with people who have such issues early..... i speak from experience (i wasn't the psycho but on the receiving end of it).Alexis696969 said:
You're overlooking something very important...The Golden Rule...those who have the gold make the rules. He's not a hypocrite. He's giving you an offer and being totally up front about the rules. If he stated he wouldn't fool around and then you found out he did, you'd have every right to be pissed. I don't see why you're pissed at this offer. Just take it or leave it. Bottom line is, you want your cake and eat it too, just as he does.Alexis696969 said:
Here's one of the most significant aspects of this, in my mind: it wasn't an 'offer', it was an 'ultimatum'. And an ultimatum is a serious relationship red flag, in my book.
Ultimatums show a need to control the other, and indicate that there is already a lack of respect for the other.
I also agree that this guy has crossed the emotional line and lost track of what his relationship with Alexis really is. "Friendships" (or "friendly relationships", in terms fuji might agree with) between client and provider must follow certain rules to work. Rules that recognize the basis of the original relationship. This guy has forgotten that, it seems.
As well, he is guilty of the classic sin of "I love you, you're perfect, now change." He met Alexis as an SP (I assume), and she has been an SP throughout the time they've known each other. And in his mental fantasy she can just stop being an SP -- except to him -- with no other impact on her experience of life, or her personality. But if Alexis stopped being an SP, I believe she *would be a different person* in ways that not at all predictable. Who knows, he might have found he wouldn't even really like her with those changes.
It's a little like thinking you can remove two spokes of a spider's web, while leaving the rest of the web undisturbed. It can't be done.
Ultimatums show a need to control the other, and indicate that there is already a lack of respect for the other.
I also agree that this guy has crossed the emotional line and lost track of what his relationship with Alexis really is. "Friendships" (or "friendly relationships", in terms fuji might agree with) between client and provider must follow certain rules to work. Rules that recognize the basis of the original relationship. This guy has forgotten that, it seems.
As well, he is guilty of the classic sin of "I love you, you're perfect, now change." He met Alexis as an SP (I assume), and she has been an SP throughout the time they've known each other. And in his mental fantasy she can just stop being an SP -- except to him -- with no other impact on her experience of life, or her personality. But if Alexis stopped being an SP, I believe she *would be a different person* in ways that not at all predictable. Who knows, he might have found he wouldn't even really like her with those changes.
It's a little like thinking you can remove two spokes of a spider's web, while leaving the rest of the web undisturbed. It can't be done.
Don said:
Now thats woman you all should be scared of if she ever runs for office
I would take him back too ,if the girl kept the dress he deposited on .........Hilary is no fool ...a bitch yes ..but no fool ..she can see others while he goes out to play lol and still be rich ...she thinks like a guy its awesome
She certainly is no fool. Her turning the other cheek was strictly a career move (and it has paid off). She has always been into Bill while Bill just saw her as a powerful asset for his career. She had turned around at that point and saw Bill as a pwerful asset.Alexis696969 said:
Don said:
yeah your right .....cause know he thinks he owns me cause he saw me for 3 years ....He said if i dont take it its over ..he will not forgive me !!!.......end of disscussion
Well heres a news flash !!!!!
Its over !! finito !!!!!!!
Not even a session .....nada !!
Now I dont care if i ever have a regular again ...maybe i should make a clause after 5 times i cant see a client anymore ! .....cause thats where i obviously screwed up!!!!
Don said:
The difference with a woman allowing that with other woman is shes not getting a gift .......shes living it up in reality HUGE difference
I cant see her accepting a gift to some man with certain conditions
They were married with children (member that show ) LOL
BottomsUp said:
yeah so now we both loose ,unless one scrafices ....we are both too stuborn to budge an inch .....its a done deal
another learning lesson in life ..........
This means I have to study my farkin ass off until my term is over and still work at my crumby ass job ...(i need it for a resume ..since last years is blank lol ) Theres some clients im still seeing now ...so its just enough for me to get by ....now that the holidays is over i will have to put my life into those books !! its very hard ...passing so far .....the english teacher thinks im smart but cant spell and my grammer sucks ...so im being told to do a highschool upgrade for when i was playing footsy with the boys and love letters ..i shouldve been paying attention in school !!!!!!!! Then when im done I will be looking for a place to work ,,,cause seriosly i dunno if i wanna go indy ..or if i do it will be with another girl ..after this shit ! cause its getting nasty now !
You are obviously a very proud person and happy with the decision you made regarding the client. Nobody should argue with you about that, you did what is right for you.Alexis696969 said:
However, the client must have been aware that you are working hard to upgrade your education, I would think he offered to help you out of good intentions.
danmand said:
If he had good intentions ...to help me with school ....he would keep things the way they were without the exclusion .Its ok ive suffered enough in my life that i dont take someone trying to own me with conditions .So if that makes me look proud ..then so be it .Most people that arent as emotional ans sensitive as certain people have been through worse and life has made us hard ,so dont misunderstand being hard for pride .
You think there are no psycho women out there? People become psychos and stalkers all the time. SP's are likely to be exposed to it sooner or later, especially if they have regulars, and ESPECIALLY if they allow those regulars the illusion that the relationship is more than just a paid one. Certainly, far more likely to happen to an SP just because of the volume.Alexa Taylor said:
However, there are definately psycho women out there who get attached and then flip out, stalk, harass, etc., if you think there aren't any I could tell you a story or two. The worst one involves knives, threats, phone cals, the whole nine yards, all in the hands of a psycho woman who just wouldn't accept that I liked someone else better. Women are just as capable as men of going absolutely fucking nuts when they fall in love inappropriately.
This is ALSO true of SP's. One reason I don't go back to the same SP repeatedly is the LAST thing I need is some SP falling in love with me, then stalking me, and causing a problem for my wife and my family. Believe me, it happens sometimes. Maybe not as often as the other way around, but it does happen, and I don't want any part of it.
The plain truth is that people misplace their feelings, especially when sex is involved. I don't think it's right to get all judgemental about people who do that--it's part of the human condition. But it is important to deal with them firmly, to put a stop to it before it becomes bad for everyone.
I believe that.
The best way to understand it, charitably, is that he has good intentions that are arising out of inappropriate feelings. Yes it has the potential to blow up into high drama. That's what happens when you play with people's emotions, which, at some level, is what an SP is doing when she allows a guy to become her "great friend" when he is not really her friend at all.
At any rate, this is a bad situation and I absolutely agree with the advice--politely, but firmly, cut this guy loose. He's probably not a bad guy, and the drama won't be fun for him either when it comes, so you'll be doing both you and him a favour by saving both you and him from a real mess.
fuji said:
Fuji ,Im diffinately sorry about your luck with having some nutcase sp scar you .Let me make this crystal clear .....The only thing im at fault at is trusting that he could be as stable as i am with as a long term regular ..I have spared him the exposure of drama on his behalf ...and i tell you where nice gets you sometimes NOWHERE so i will still kindly march on and forget about him just like that ...cause he brought this on not me ...I did not lead him on ...tell him false promises of him and me .....Everyone whos in business has one or two workers or assosiates ,clients etc... that we actually become frendlier with and lets call it aquaintances ...now you may seem like friends but no you dont call each other after work ...but everytime you get together is pleasurable and enjoyable ......Now just because someone offers you thousands of dollars to go to school does not make the guy a good person ....its good of him to give .....but a gift doesnt have conditions ....and no i didnt want a sugardaddy and yes i tell him all the time that im very content the way things are ....and ya know what he says to me the reason he wants me is cause i say it like it is .....so how FARKIN IRONIC that i tell him i dont appreciate this deal to only be with him and can we see each other and i poay my own way to school like i have been and he says NO .Will you see other sps ..he says yes .You cannot see any men he says and if he finds out .........Spare me ok ive never lasted this long with a client before and i dont want to ever again ok .I really do treat clients with respect like most of the escorts here ......and these control freaks that try and change us think that money means they own us .What a farkin joke !
Next time a guyy wants to go in the real world go take a chick out for dinner ...then again and again buy then its cost the same as an sp and see if she does what you want !!!!!!! guys that treat woman this way are dulsionalists and if it works deep inside she hates you for waving a bill over her head like shes a oiece of meat .......we are no different then any lady out there except we dont deny you guys that TLC .THats why you come to us and thats what we give !Stop making it so complicated then hating us causae you didnt make a whore a housewife !!!!!! Do you hate a housewife who isnt a whore ! No i dont think sps are whores but thats the lingo some of you adore!
