Worst intersection in TO
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Is that where Lansdowne jogs over to the east before it continues north? Yeah that is pretty bad. But it has a lot of competition. For example, Spadina all the way from College to Lakeshore.
As Toronto keeps growing there will be many more worst intersections, not only one. Remebering the city about 30 years ago the only traffic jams I constantly got caught in were the DVP and QEW.....even the 401 wasn't that bad, but still busy. Today, jams are everywhere, not just main roads, many secondary roads are constantly busy.
Dundas Square!!!!!
Too many people, cars, trucks, pan handlers, free hug dispensers, etc all in one area.
Maddening!!!
Too many people, cars, trucks, pan handlers, free hug dispensers, etc all in one area.
Maddening!!!
Dundas / Annette / Dupont - holy fuck, nothing lines up.
Worst is making a left from Dundas onto Annette.
Worst is making a left from Dundas onto Annette.
I've got to agree with Kirk on this one. Dundas/Annette/Dupont is maddening. Its the three way light. I avoid it whenever possible.
Especially heading west on Dupont. Life would be better if the city got rid of the stupid bike lane on Dupont.
Eglinton and Allen Road is a little better now that there are 2 right turn lanes on westbound Eg.
Ellesmere and Warden - between traffic going north to 401 where there is construction and the Costco crowd in the se quadrant, it can get very busy.
and The Winner is :
DVP and 401 by a mile: DVP south from 401 funnels from 9 lanes to 3. Included are all the lanes of traffic exiting from the 401 to the DVP and existing 404 southbound lanes. Piss poor planning. The traffic reporter always say, " 404 parkway south slow from Sheppard all the way down to Wynford."
Ellesmere and Warden - between traffic going north to 401 where there is construction and the Costco crowd in the se quadrant, it can get very busy.
and The Winner is :
DVP and 401 by a mile: DVP south from 401 funnels from 9 lanes to 3. Included are all the lanes of traffic exiting from the 401 to the DVP and existing 404 southbound lanes. Piss poor planning. The traffic reporter always say, " 404 parkway south slow from Sheppard all the way down to Wynford."
Those two are very bad I agree.
But the unholy, "city planner should burn in hell award" goes to Dundas and Scarlett. They meet at a railway underpass unfit for most commercial trucks or moving vans. The sewage is backed up so it always floods in the rain. Like today. Even if you are lucky enough to make a right turn in under 3 minutes, as the intersection is designed to give left turners the right of way over right turners, as soon as you breach the underpass, you are stopped at the end of St. Clair West and Scarlett for a second red light less than 50 meters north.
I agree 100% - I do a ton of driving and this intersection, especially since Miller put in a bike lane, has been stopped. I think that there are cars from last November still trying to make it under the bridge...
Timbit
For some reason I think the Lansdowne intersection is better now. Cars are a bit slower but with the always crazy number of pedestrians in the are it seems safer.
Needless to say, an intersection acts like a bottleneck that backs up traffic. If designed well, you won't notice much. But if you sit in traffic, you think why did they ever do this? This has to be said because it seems to me that the people in charge of planning the streets of Toronto, don't know anything about traffic or driving, or road design.
Here's another example.
Spadina, going south trying to get onto the Gradiner anytime between 3 to 6 PM.
Remember the old days? The ramp going up to the Gardiner is single lane. However, after you go over the bridge, there are two lanes which leads to the single lane ramp.
However, now there are a lot more cars making a left from Front onto the bridge. Lets say that is another lane. So now you have 3 lanes of traffic trying to go up the single ramp to the Gradiner.
At the top of the bridge, there is a new road a few years old. The cars there make a left and of course they will use that single lane ramp to access the Gardiner. So that makes 4 lanes of traffic all going to a single lane ramp.
That is why if you are at King and Spadina, it will take 15 to 20 minutes to get to the Gardiner at 3 PM. If you walk that distance, it will only take 10 minutes.
The City Planner has no clue on what he is doing. No one on Front should be allowed to make a left onto Spadina, they should continue west to Bathurst and then onto the Lakeshore. Same for that street on top of the bridge.
When you drive down there, and realize 4 lanes of traffic are all trying to get to the Gardiner up a single lane ramp, you lose confidence in the city of Toronto government to do anything right.
Here's another example.
Spadina, going south trying to get onto the Gradiner anytime between 3 to 6 PM.
Remember the old days? The ramp going up to the Gardiner is single lane. However, after you go over the bridge, there are two lanes which leads to the single lane ramp.
However, now there are a lot more cars making a left from Front onto the bridge. Lets say that is another lane. So now you have 3 lanes of traffic trying to go up the single ramp to the Gradiner.
At the top of the bridge, there is a new road a few years old. The cars there make a left and of course they will use that single lane ramp to access the Gardiner. So that makes 4 lanes of traffic all going to a single lane ramp.
That is why if you are at King and Spadina, it will take 15 to 20 minutes to get to the Gardiner at 3 PM. If you walk that distance, it will only take 10 minutes.
The City Planner has no clue on what he is doing. No one on Front should be allowed to make a left onto Spadina, they should continue west to Bathurst and then onto the Lakeshore. Same for that street on top of the bridge.
When you drive down there, and realize 4 lanes of traffic are all trying to get to the Gardiner up a single lane ramp, you lose confidence in the city of Toronto government to do anything right.
