Yet another Revenge Against Society attack at an elementary school in China

40micmic

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These types of attacks have been increasing within Chinese society. Civil unrest and unjust communist rule has caused they pyschopaths to target small children with the idea being to wipe out 3 generations within a family. Unfortunately, this types of incidents are heavily censored in China as it doesn't "tell a good China story" with only a few of the instances actually getting out to the West. Many in China won't even be aware of this incident at all.

April 22, Jinhua, Zhejiang. A car crashed into pedestrians at the gate of Sumeng Primary School. Video showed that many people, including children, fell to the ground and were covered in blood. A child was rolled into the chassis of the car. Everyone worked together to lift the car to save people. The scene was in chaos.

4月22日,浙江金华。网传苏孟小学门口发生一起轿车冲撞行人事件,视频显示,现场包括小孩在内多人倒地不起,并且浑身是血。还有孩子被卷进车底盘,众人合力抬车救人,现场一片混乱



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Whatever it takes to take down the CCP regime and truly lift chinese people we should be doing
The task of taking down the CCP and lifting the Chinese people is
better left to the Chinese people in China. I am content with helping
China out through trading.
 

40micmic

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The task of taking down the CCP and lifting the Chinese people is
better left to the Chinese people in China. I am content with helping
China out through trading.
If ww could rise up against the CCP and overthrow it ourselves, this would be the most effective way. However, givem the systems, surveillance and censorship they have in place i dont see it happening.

If you thought the US system is rigged, well you havent seen nothing until you have wwnt to china.

Helping china with trade merely gives more power and leverage for the CCP. It doesnt trickle down to the masses as much as it should.
 

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If ww could rise up against the CCP and overthrow it ourselves, this would be the most effective way. However, givem the systems, surveillance and censorship they have in place i dont see it happening.
Oppressive regimes in China were overthrown more or less
periodically in history. I trust the oppressed Chinese people know
how to circumvent surveillance and censorship when they decide
it is time to strike. They faced by comparison impossible odds
in the uprising agains the Chin and the Yuen dynasty.

If you thought the US system is rigged, well you havent seen nothing until you have wwnt to china.
If I do believe the US system is rigged I would still not want to see people
rising up and society sinking into chaos.

Helping china with trade merely gives more power and leverage for the CCP. It doesnt trickle down to the masses as much as it should.
Actually trading is more about helping me. I want cheap and quality
Chinese goods. I don't have to be a fan of PRC to help both the Chinese
people and myself to make good money.
 

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Whatever it takes to take down the CCP regime and truly lift chinese people we should be doing
No govt in history has lifted more people in less time then the CCP. or CPC as they are officially known.
 

40micmic

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Oppressive regimes in China were overthrown more or less
periodically in history. I trust the oppressed Chinese people know
how to circumvent surveillance and censorship when they decide
it is time to strike. They faced by comparison impossible odds
in the uprising agains the Chin and the Yuen dynasty.
Well hopefully history can repeat itself at some point. We have seen certain groups and regions (Labour groups, pro democracy and student groups, religious groups, ethnic minority groups, etc.) rise up only to be struck down with extreme brutality.


Actually trading is more about helping me. I want cheap and quality
Chinese goods. I don't have to be a fan of PRC to help both the Chinese
people and myself to make good money.
But that is the thing, the wealth is not trickling down properly to the Chinese people. Also, cheap and "quality" (debatable) chinese goods are the result of a few factors. Yes Chinese people work hard and work long hours. However, the CCP's governance has looked the other way or even encouraged bad business practices which are in direct violation of the WTO rules and regulations, which China agreed to abide by. Things like forced labour and other human rights abuses, lack of labour laws, anti-dumping laws (steel and aluminum come to mind), safeguarding of intellectual property, lack of transparency with regards to government subsidies, etc.

And as it currently stands, raw material costs are going up due to poor environmental practices. Things produced in China aren't as cheap as they used to be and in order to maintain margins, they cut corners wherever they can.
 

40micmic

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No govt in history has lifted more people in less time then the CCP. or CPC as they are officially known.
I know you love to believe CCP propaganda like China's poverty alleviation campaign or Xi's toilet revolution, but if you believe the numbers that they provided the World Bank regarding poverty, I got a bridge to sell you.

I assume you believe their GDP grew by 5.4%. Even though their economy has been in a deflationary spiral for over 2 years and there are so many metrics that would suggest that the GDP numbers they claim are completely false. Even former premier, Li Keqiang said don't believe Chinese GDP numbers. For further reference, you can go onto the official chinese state website that publishes various stats on the Chinese economy. I provided the link below. It definitely doesn't add up.

 

oil&gas

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Well hopefully history can repeat itself at some point. We have seen certain groups and regions (Labour groups, pro democracy and student groups, religious groups, ethnic minority groups, etc.) rise up only to be struck down with extreme brutality.
If you hope history to repeat then expect China to pay the price of millions of
death and disintegration of society at least for a short while. Transition between
overthrow of the old regime to the time when the new regime was firmy in place
was seldom peaceful in the history of China.

But that is the thing, the wealth is not trickling down properly to the Chinese people. Also, cheap and "quality" (debatable) chinese goods are the result of a few factors. Yes Chinese people work hard and work long hours. However, the CCP's governance has looked the other way or even encouraged bad business practices which are in direct violation of the WTO rules and regulations, which China agreed to abide by.
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As far as I can tell the Chinese people are more happy to continue
trading with us than to be cut off. Unfair treatment of Chinese labours
and other issues will have to be dealt with by China, WTO and other
world leaders separately.
 

40micmic

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If you hope history to repeat then expect China to pay the price of millions of
death and disintegration of society at least for a short while. Transition between
overthrow of the old regime to the time when the new regime was firmy in place
was seldom peaceful in the history of China.
There are 2 options
1. China can begin a peaceful transition to democracy similar to Taiwan (although the Taiwanese had to endure the 228 massacre in 1947 and was held under strict censorship and martial law for 40 years)
2. China overthrows their current leadership through non peaceful measures.

Obviously, everyone would prefer the first option. However, how the CCP has tightened its grip even further through the use of technology, a peaceful solution seems highly unlikely.

Perhaps this is why the CCP is so scared of Taiwanse democracy and being an independant nation.

As far as I can tell the Chinese people are more happy to continue
trading with us than to be cut off. Unfair treatment of Chinese labours
and other issues will have to be dealt with by China, WTO and other
world leaders separately.
We have given china 25 years to deal with these issues and nothing has come out of it. You think anything will change if you leave it up to the CCP?

I have no problem with the US leading the charge in this fight. I wish more countries and organizations would stand up against the CCP. If the CCP has been breaking the rules and ripping off your nation for decades, you wouldnt want to stand up against them?

The video below is a great explanation on several things i previously pointed out about chinese industries, exploiting chinese workers (and yes some of that was driven by western greed), the hukou system, etc. It is only 10 minutes. You can faat forward the first 3 minutes but the whole videos is good.

 
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