youngsters and hobbying

[our_kid]

I usually don't post or read in the Lounge that often, but I have taken to it recently, and I think this is the place for this -- but has anyone else noticed the number of young (as in early twenties, late teens) guys visiting SPs and posting reviews? I've been reading on other boards too where guys are talking about putting their OSAP money (undergraduate student loans) aside for hobbying, and we've seen the posting of students looking for on campus nookie and the street slang-written reviews

I guess I'm just really shocked and surprised that a) those guys would have problems finding girls, and b) they'd be spending student loans on hobbying

I'm not way beyond their years, but maybe times have changed drastically since my day

do any of the ladies on here wish to share as to whether or not they have seen a slight shift in the demographics lately?

 

[humbucker]

Hey all,

I just thought I'd drop my two cents on this subject. I'm an early twenties guy (24) and funny enough, I was thinking about this same thing. After some thought I figured out a couple of things (these of course, apply to myself, and in no way is meant to speak for anyone else my age). Firstly, seeing a SP or MPA is on a whole different wavelength than "hooking up" with women/girls I may meet in some social setting. Sure, I could have sex with some of them, but than there's so much other stuff that needs to be tended to (i.e. feelings, relationship, other crap, etc) yet with a SP or MPA those things aren't really in the equation. You don't need to worry about performance, whether this girl is going to make your life hell for whatever stupid reason - she just accepts you (or at least gives the illusion of) and that's a big relief, and a big reason why I see SP or MPA. There is so much pressure as a young guy to go out there and meet girls, date, blah blah blah, and hobbying is like a big F-YOU to all of that.

So I think a lot of the reasons that I, and probably other guys my age, hobby are the same reasons that anyone else does. However, there are certain stresses placed upon young men, and hobbying seems to be a safer way to channel that stress (as opposed to say, violence, or dropping out of school).

I do, however, feel that using your OSAP loans for hobbying is a really bad idea... although on their behalf I've known a lot of fellow students who've spent it on a lot worse (pimping their rides comes to mind)

So that's my essay... can I get credit for this towards my degree?? lol

PEACE!

 

[Pedro Sanchez]

First time i experienced the "hobby" i was 16. Me and couple of buddies were downtown watching the leaf game (Maple Leaf Gardens) and got a hotel so we could crash down there. We ended up getting a street walker and negotiated a price for bj's. (there were 4 of us). This was not my first sexual experience, just my first experience with a working girl.

I have always (for the most part) had a gf or a fuck friend since i have been in this "hobby". Although i never had OSAP or spent money i didnt have, i used to enjoy going for a massage 1 - 3 times a month. I think it's just the thrill and variety of different young hotties.

 

[WhaWhaWha]

I didn't start hobbying until i was in my early 20s. I did it with money I earned from working a full time job. I would never have thought of using borrowed money forthis type of expense. In my mid 30s, I made financial sacrifices to afford certain irresistable offers such as special girls in town for limited time and so forth. I totally understand and agree that hobbying is a great alternative to traditional dating leading to sex. It usually occurs between people who will see each other again. If it goes well thats great but if it doesnt it can be uncomfortable. But young men beware. This hobby can become so much of a crutch that real relationships may become out of your reach.

 

[Hugh G. Rekshun]

I might have been 'hobbying' when I was 14 or 15, if I had known more about it then. Not that I would have had enough money to do much. Kind of like the guy described above, I just wanted sex and the whole thing of dating was an annoying game I had little interest in playing.

There was no internet then, and I only had a vague idea of streetwalkers, which seemed very risky, and by the time I was in my late teens, the escort ads in tabloids, which I assumed were all scams. I knew almost nothing about MPs, and I had never heard of incalls before I saw the term on the internet.

 

[thundercat]

I agree with Humbucker. Being a young guy, there's a lot of bullshit with meeting/dating girls our own age. Sometimes we just want to get an experienced SP or MPA, instead of dealing with all the politics of dating. Now don't get me wrong, there's still times where us young guys go out to meet girls (bars, clubs, etc.), but the intent for that is to find a relationship. When we hook up with an SP or MPA, it's just for a quick fix.

But as far as spending OSAP money goes, that's just stupid. No matter what age you are, I say that if you can't support your own habit, don't do it.

 

[our_kid]

I think I agree with Sukdeep that being part of the whole 'instant gratification generation' has something to do with it

I don't get why the young guys are saying going out and meeting girls leads to relationships -- that has never once happened in my life. I don't want to sound like I'm bragging here, but I used to be quite proud and feel a certain sense of accomplishment picking up a girl, doing the nasty, then hopefully never seeing her again.

I'm only 29 now, and for straight sex, I'll definitely just catch what I can from bars (although this is getting to be one of the hardest places to meet single women), grocery stores, magazine shops, or Queen St. (and I don't mean street walkers) -- but if I want something out of the ordinary like say taking it up the bum from a strap-on queen while she spanks me and calls me Conan, then I'd visit an sp

 

[Fred Zed]

Mom and Dad may be paying rent and bills

Some of the university kids have quite a bit of money saved up from summer/part - time jobs and have access to credit cards which banks are so anxious to give away to students these days. If they are living with mom and dad and aren't paying for rent, food and utillities that can leave them quite a bit of discretionary income.

 

[moogama]

I usually don't post or read in the Lounge that often, but I have taken to it recently, and I think this is the place for this -- but has anyone else noticed the number of young (as in early twenties, late teens) guys visiting SPs and posting reviews? I've been reading on other boards too where guys are talking about putting their OSAP money (undergraduate student loans) aside for hobbying, and we've seen the posting of students looking for on campus nookie and the street slang-written reviews

I guess I'm just really shocked and surprised that a) those guys would have problems finding girls, and b) they'd be spending student loans on hobbying

I'm not way beyond their years, but maybe times have changed drastically since my day

do any of the ladies on here wish to share as to whether or not they have seen a slight shift in the demographics lately?

if you cant get laid in university without paying for it then you need to be slapped silly.

 

[Tick]

Consider the very real possibility that the average freshman girl in college has had way more unprotected sex than the average SP.

 

[strange1]

I became a SC regular at 19 or 20 and it was more of a compulsion than a need, although I visited less when I had a regular thing. Of course, at $5 or $10 per song, it was a heck of a lot more affordable.

 

[TheNiteHwk]

I had my first hobby experience when I was 15.

I was working for a body rub place on Younger St (this was back in the time of the old Younger St Mall days) handing out flyers. They paid me minimum wage plus bonus. For every guy that came in with a flier with my initials on it I got a bonus. One night I went in to get paid and instead of cash for my bonus they offered me service. Hey… what can I say… the girl offered was a redhead. My life has never been the same since.


<LMAO>

 

[humbucker]

About four years ago, I used to think that one-night stands were the way to go. Unfortunately I found all of them to be totally ungratifying and unpleasant. Part of it had to do with seeing a lot of people that I knew whom were into the casual sex thing getting completely bummed out about the whole situation and they all ended up being desperate for a meaningful relationship.

if you cant get laid in university without paying for it then you need to be slapped silly.

The above quote is just an example of the BS that us young guys are put through. Maybe it was just a joke, but I hear this kind of stuff all the time - why does not having sex in university make us any less of a person?

 

[moogama]

why does not having sex in university make us any less of a person?

it doesn't. bit if you have to pay for sex in university then you should be slapped silly. come on, it's nothing but wall to wall horny chicks in the dorms and there are even more at the bars.

there is no need to pay for it in school. and you are the first guy i knew that got bummed out about casual sex.

now if you just choose to not have sex then thats your choice. but if you are choosing to and are paying for it while you are in the bastion of all that is horny then again, you should be slapped silly.

 

[baltimoron]

Here's my take, FWIW

it doesn't. bit if you have to pay for sex in university then you should be slapped silly.
there is no need to pay for it in school.

What if you're shy, ugly, fat, wrong skin color, etc.? A lot of people don't develop fully until after college when the real world helps one to grow up a bit.

One reason why there are more younger clients here is because older and wealthier clients (whom we don't hear about) are too busy or computer illiterate to be posting here. TERB attracts young clients because it's a near real-time computer thingy which older guys don't have the time or patience for.

I started hobbying when I was 29, student loans paid off and career becoming well-established.

Before that I was dating normally with online and offline dating services, but I became frustrated with all the hypocrisy, paranoia, and lying with the dating scene.

I would rather be honest and pay for it upfront with an SP, instead of having to lie or con some woman through a series of dates into giving it up for "free." That, to me, is the moral hypocrisy of dating, and of society in general, which seeks to outlaw or ban our precious hobby at any chance.

Dating leads to relationships which leads to commitments and ultimately marriage. All that for just one woman that you're supposed to remain faithful to, but probably won't? Then guess what? Divor$e.

Thanks, but I'll stick with the SPs and the variety. It's just the right amount of time I want to spend with each woman. If that makes me shallow or sensitive, then so be it. I guess that's just the way I am.

 

[moogama]

What if you're shy, ugly, fat, wrong skin color, etc.?

what if? there are tons of people like that in school. for every fat guy theres two fat girls. for every ugly guy there are ugly chicks...and im talking 8 beers beer goggle chicks. so there is something for anybody who cares to look.

Dating leads to relationships which leads to commitments and ultimately marriage. All that for just one woman that you're supposed to remain faithful to, but probably won't? Then guess what? Divor$e.

wow, what a wierd perception. in school no one is thinking about marriage when they are banging you. in school dating leads to sex which leads to more sex..unless you are truly homely.

Thanks, but I'll stick with the SPs and the variety. It's just the right amount of time I want to spend with each woman. If that makes me shallow or sensitive, then so be it. I guess that's just the way I am.

if you cant find variety in school then you need to stop looking in the mens locker room.. and how much time do you think you are spending with these chicks? as much or as little as you want. there are lots of girls in school that are looking for fun. you just have to step out from behind your keyboard and go find them

 

[baltimoron]

what if? there are tons of people like that in school. for every fat guy theres two fat girls. for every ugly guy there are ugly chicks...and im talking 8 beers beer goggle chicks. so there is something for anybody who cares to look.

wow, what a wierd perception. in school no one is thinking about marriage when they are banging you. in school dating leads to sex which leads to more sex..unless you are truly homely.

if you cant find variety in school then you need to stop looking in the mens locker room.. and how much time do you think you are spending with these chicks? as much or as little as you want. there are lots of girls in school that are looking for fun. you just have to step out from behind your keyboard and go find them

What if you're the fat and/or ugly guy who wants to bang the cheerleader? Not gonna happen. Hence, enter SPs.

As for the other stuff, I was referring to post-college life in the real world, so that may explain the disconnect here.

 

[our_kid]

haha -- moogama is my new hero!

 

[frankcastle]

Yeah most people get laid in University but its not as easy as Moog makes it out to be. But if you look at the frequency and quality of the sex its easy to understand why younger guys are hobbying.

As someone pointed out a lot of people are still figuring themselves out in University so their pick up skills aren't refined.

 

[our_kid]

I agree, but university is good time to refine those skills -- I picked up a lot, but I also failed a lot -- but from each failure I learned a lot and become less and less affraid, and I'm confident, now, that I could seal almost any deal with a single girl

college guys nowadays want success right off the bat it seems -- I know, I have a few friends who are still going to school (and are younger than I)