Great idea, this is pretty cool. First I've seen of it, and not ridiculously priced either.
http://www.sawstop.com/video.htm
http://www.sawstop.com/video.htm
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Ya the teacher in my High School had two fingers missing....Winston said:
My Dad was a wood Pattern Maker for 40 years...never had an accident...but I could always tell when someone had been hurt bad in his shop when he came home.
He taught me how to use power tools...and the most important step was the run through without the power tool on. It was like a practice run sort of...and I can't tell you how many virtual fingers I would have lost!
You go through the actions whith hands placed the way you're going to do the "action"...remember is's not the hand holding the saw that gets cut...it's the ones thats supposed to out of the way..or the power cord...
With table Saws...he preached about the guard being on ALL the time. In my home shop I was building some furniture...and a piece of wood during cutting slowed becasue of a dulling blade...and the saw threw it backwards at about 90 MPH....I eventually called the marks on the piece distressing to make it look antigue!
Bottom line...follow the book that comes with the machine...KEEP THE GUARDS ON! You see tradesmen all the time working without the guards..but if the guards are set up properly..and thats the key...then they'll work just fine no matter what the job is. All these guys who talk about guards getting in the way...they all have friends missing digits!
The guard is thre for a reason. If you're an occasional user/hobbyist in woddworking..use all the protection you can get.
Just like this forum says over and over...would you have sex without a condom? Keep the guards on every digit!
MarkII said:
seems kind of unnecesary to wear a condom on all toes and fingers as well as your penis.
Good points mark, and you see guys at home depot all the time.
I do that too, the old practice run through.
The reason we contractors remove the fence is more often than not, the piece you are feeding through the saw gets caught on the splitter and jams resulting in an even more dangerous situation.
it took me about 6 months to get used to our 9 hp sliding table saw without the blade guard on. But there are only 4 ppl in our shop allowed to go near it and we all respect the saw. On lower HP saws if you have a piece start to kick back you can hang on to it while it zooms buy and direct it away from your body (and vital organs). On our saw however (9 hp induction) the more stress you put on the blade, the more power is applied to the blade. We had a piece of maple actually chip the concrete wall behind the saw.
I agree tho, these brakes should be mandatory on all saws, especially the home owner grade or "toys" as we call them. Those delta, rigid and mastercrap should be outlawed. The fences etc are so wobbly that they are accidents waiting to happen.
I do that too, the old practice run through.
The reason we contractors remove the fence is more often than not, the piece you are feeding through the saw gets caught on the splitter and jams resulting in an even more dangerous situation.
it took me about 6 months to get used to our 9 hp sliding table saw without the blade guard on. But there are only 4 ppl in our shop allowed to go near it and we all respect the saw. On lower HP saws if you have a piece start to kick back you can hang on to it while it zooms buy and direct it away from your body (and vital organs). On our saw however (9 hp induction) the more stress you put on the blade, the more power is applied to the blade. We had a piece of maple actually chip the concrete wall behind the saw.
I agree tho, these brakes should be mandatory on all saws, especially the home owner grade or "toys" as we call them. Those delta, rigid and mastercrap should be outlawed. The fences etc are so wobbly that they are accidents waiting to happen.
MarkII said:
MarkII said:My Dad was a wood Pattern Maker for 40 years...never had an accident...but I could always tell when someone had been hurt bad in his shop when he came home.
He taught me how to use power tools...and the most important step was the run through without the power tool on. It was like a practice run sort of...and I can't tell you how many virtual fingers I would have lost!
You go through the actions whith hands placed the way you're going to do the "action"...remember is's not the hand holding the saw that gets cut...it's the ones thats supposed to out of the way..or the power cord...
With table Saws...he preached about the guard being on ALL the time. In my home shop I was building some furniture...and a piece of wood during cutting slowed becasue of a dulling blade...and the saw threw it backwards at about 90 MPH....I eventually called the marks on the piece distressing to make it look antigue!
Bottom line...follow the book that comes with the machine...KEEP THE GUARDS ON! You see tradesmen all the time working without the guards..but if the guards are set up properly..and thats the key...then they'll work just fine no matter what the job is. All these guys who talk about guards getting in the way...they all have friends missing digits!
The guard is thre for a reason. If you're an occasional user/hobbyist in woddworking..use all the protection you can get.
Just like this forum says over and over...would you have sex without a condom? Keep the guards on every digit![/QUOTE]
Mark it all sounds good on paper. Every close call I've had has been because of the guards and the fucking dust collector okay I confess and lack of sleep.
Here's why...for one you lose sight of the blade while the gaurd is on and gain a false sense of security. As you know the guard doesn't gaurantee you won't cut yourself.
Secondly after the blade has been sharpened a couple of times the kerf is marginally smaller than the splitter (part of the guard) which causes the wood to jam on the splitter before it reaches the anti-kickback mechanism. Try and get yourself out of that mess when you are ripping a 4x8 and the power button is 6' away.
Anyway I don't mean to jump on you, I'm old school and learned very safe practices and habits before the guard was introduced. I would agree for the weekend warrior the guard should always be in place.
I forgot to add...you cannot rip 2" and under while the guard is on because there is no room for the push stick...ah ha!! just kidding
I just noticed that tboy beat me to it.
I'm in the market for a portable, what do you think of the Porter Cable @ $499?tboy said:
I was checking them out at HD lastnight, the porter cable seems to be a winner I couldn't move the fence once I locked it.
I think that it should definately be used. I know someone myself that is missing a finger and till now he is very conscious about it. It only took a split second when someone entered the room and started talking to him. If you see someone working with a saw never distract them either.
I hear you on that one stacey. I was working on our saw and one of our PITA customers walked up behind me and spoke loudly right in my ear, I almost smacked him one. I tell you, I turned around and laid into him big time the dumb fuck.....
