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basketcase

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Ahh.
The "we must commit war crimes because the other side would" defence.

You do know that "eliminating Hamas" is an impossible strategic goal, right?
Israel is in a no-win situation. If they let Hamas feel they got away with the 7th, it would only encourage more. Doing what they do will just build support for Hamas and Iran will happily pay for them to rebuild their capabilities.

They had hoped that the push/pull of improving economic opportunity in Gaza and their "mowing the grass" strategy for people committed to violence would slowly make Hamas less interested in violence but obviously Hamas is still more motivated by killing rather than building.
 

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Amnesty, HRW, B'tselem, the UN, UNSC, ICJ are where my information comes from.
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Except when they criticize Hamas, Iran, Hezbollah, or other anti-Israel groups where you argue the exact opposite of what those groups say.

Just a few of your best claims.
Franky says Hamas rockets are legitimate self defense.
Franky says Jewish are legitimate targets simply by being in the West Bank
Franky says there was no rape or sexual violence by Hamas
Franky says the immediate and unconditional release of hostages isn't important
Franky says Oct 7 was justified by Israel's actions
 

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Israel is in a no-win situation. If they let Hamas feel they got away with the 7th, it would only encourage more. Doing what they do will just build support for Hamas and Iran will happily pay for them to rebuild their capabilities.

They had hoped that the push/pull of improving economic opportunity in Gaza and their "mowing the grass" strategy for people committed to violence would slowly make Hamas less interested in violence but obviously Hamas is still more motivated by killing rather than building.
Ah. So the "We have no other choice than to commit genocide' defence. Much like the Nazis did when they said - "What will we do with them? Other countries wont accept them and we cannot let them live amongst us. So let us just kill them". Guess they learnt from their oppressors the only lesson, you'd expect them to forget.
 
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Israel is in a no-win situation.
There are 5 million Palestinians and 5 million Jews living under Israeli rule.
They could never 'win' except by genocide or ethnic cleansing.

Israel should have settled for the 2 state solution decades ago.
Now zionism is done and should never be allowed to rule anything ever again.
 

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They had hoped that the push/pull of improving economic opportunity in Gaza and their "mowing the grass" strategy for people committed to violence would slowly make Hamas less interested in violence but obviously Hamas is still more motivated by killing rather than building.
Netanyahu had been funding Hamas for 17 years to help divide Palestinians.
Gaza was his plan all along.

This was posted on Oct 8 on the times of Israel.
 

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Except when they criticize Hamas, Iran, Hezbollah, or other anti-Israel groups where you argue the exact opposite of what those groups say.

Just a few of your best claims.
Franky says Hamas rockets are legitimate self defense.
Franky says Jewish are legitimate targets simply by being in the West Bank
Franky says there was no rape or sexual violence by Hamas
Franky says the immediate and unconditional release of hostages isn't important
Franky says Oct 7 was justified by Israel's actions
I back the UN, ICC, ICJ, Amnesty, HRW, B'tselem reports.
I back the rule of law, the end of apartheid and equal rights

You back genocide.
 

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basketcase

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I back the UN, ICC, ICJ, Amnesty, HRW, B'tselem reports.
I back the rule of law, the end of apartheid and equal rights
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So why did you argue Amnesty is wrong when they say Hamas use of unguided rockets are a war crime and never justified?
Why did you repeatedly claim that Jews being in the West bank are automatically legitimate targets despite Amnesty, B'STelem, HRW, and the UN saying the opposite?
Why do you repeatedly claim Hamas' attack on the 7th was "self defense" when they UN, ICC, and ICJ said otherwise?
Why do you claim the UN is lying when they accused Hamas of widespread use of rape?
Why do you reject the UN, ICJ, and ICC demanding the immediate and unconditional release of Hamas hostages?
Why do you ignore repeated UN statements on Hamas using schools, mosques, and UN facilities for military purposes?

And why do you make claims about the ICJ when they haven't ruled on anything yet?
 

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There are 5 million Palestinians and 5 million Jews living under Israeli rule.
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Only 5% of the Palestinians want an egalitarian One State peace. The same polling shows 75% of Palestinians reject equal rights and want a Palestinian only state "From the River to the Sea". Sad that you think Palestinians are so far beneath you that their opinion doesn't matter and isn't worth criticizing.

It's obvious that the only thing motivating you is your obsessive racism.
 

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Isn't that the exact justification you and Frank use for Hamas' attacks?
No. We use, "We have no other choice other than to fight our genociders" defence.
 
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So why did you argue Amnesty is wrong when they say Hamas use of unguided rockets are a war crime and never justified?
Why did you repeatedly claim that Jews being in the West bank are automatically legitimate targets despite Amnesty, B'STelem, HRW, and the UN saying the opposite?
Why do you repeatedly claim Hamas' attack on the 7th was "self defense" when they UN, ICC, and ICJ said otherwise?
Why do you claim the UN is lying when they accused Hamas of widespread use of rape?
Why do you reject the UN, ICJ, and ICC demanding the immediate and unconditional release of Hamas hostages?
Why do you ignore repeated UN statements on Hamas using schools, mosques, and UN facilities for military purposes?

And why do you make claims about the ICJ when they haven't ruled on anything yet?
Why do you feel you have to resort to making up lies about what I post?
Each of those claims are lies.

I support investigations and charges on both sides based on all reports by Amnesty, HRW, B'tselem and the UN.
You don't, you shit bricks at the thought of the ICJ genocide trial, the ICC war crimes trials that will eventually happen and Israel being forced to abide by the 60+ UN resolutions levelled against them.

You are the one that is deathly afraid of the law being applied to both sides.
You are afraid of the end of apartheid.
You are afraid of the end of the genocide.
And you are afraid of equal rights for Palestinians.
 

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Only 5% of the Palestinians want an egalitarian One State peace. The same polling shows 75% of Palestinians reject equal rights and want a Palestinian only state "From the River to the Sea". Sad that you think Palestinians are so far beneath you that their opinion doesn't matter and isn't worth criticizing.

It's obvious that the only thing motivating you is your obsessive racism.
Yes, Palestinians don't trust the brutal apartheid regime that has been occupying them for 75 years and now are committing genocide on them.
Would you?

Palestinians have a right to resist and to hate zionists.
It will take decades to get over that hate.

 

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Why do you feel you have to resort to making up lies about what I post?
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Are you trying to claim that you didn't post the things you posted? And yes, you know that every claim I made is accurate. You just refuse to admit it because of your deep seated racism.
 

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Yes, Palestinians don't trust the brutal apartheid regime that has been occupying them for 75 years and now are committing genocide on them.
Would you?

Palestinians have a right to resist and to hate zionists.
It will take decades to get over that hate.

Thanks for admitting you want a Palestinians only state, not equal rights and that you don't care what Palestinians think.
 

Kautilya

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You have been very clear that you think that you support the ethnic cleansing and genocide of Jews from the middle east.
No, I have been very clear, that I am against the ethnic cleansing and genocide of the Palestinians.
 
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Thanks for admitting you want a Palestinians only state, not equal rights and that you don't care what Palestinians think.
You're really losing it.
I know its hard to be a hasbara troll and defend genocide, but when your lies get this fucking stupid you should just go and take a nap.

Stick to cheering on terrorism, starving babies and bombing women and children.

And I'll stick to calling for a ceasefire, the end of the occupation, the application of the law and equal rights.

 
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