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UNSC passes resolution demanding immediate ceasefire in Gaza

Frankfooter

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These are Israeli statements.
Statements from the Israeli government?

I hope the pretzels are almost ready because you're going to need them.
 

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You have a completely different standard when it comes to Israel. On most issues you are a leftist, progressive liberal,
It's difficult for someone who religiously follows a dogma to see that some people are actually able to think for themselves instead. They have the ability to assess each issue based on its' own merits instead of blindly following what Fearless Leader tells them.

Just as it is with individuals, no side of the political spectrum is always right or always wrong.
 

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Statements from the Israeli government?

I hope the pretzels are almost ready because you're going to need them.
Current government. They have said they won't stop until Gaza is eliminated and Hamas is killed.
 
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Current government. They have said they won't stop until Gaza is eliminated and Hamas is killed.
And Hamas has said they won't continue fighting until the Jewish presence is eliminated. One is a campaign against what Canada considers a terrorist group. They other in a clearly stated desire for genocide.

More significantly, Israel's next election is likely seeing Netanyahu's coalition screwed while Hamas will continue getting support from many Palestinians because of their violence against Jews (even though their support Gaza has significantly dropped from people who have to live with the consequences of Hamas' violence.
 

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And Hamas has said they won't continue fighting until the Jewish presence is eliminated. One is a campaign against what Canada considers a terrorist group. They other in a clearly stated desire for genocide.

More significantly, Israel's next election is likely seeing Netanyahu's coalition screwed while Hamas will continue getting support from many Palestinians because of their violence against Jews (even though their support Gaza has significantly dropped from people who have to live with the consequences of Hamas' violence.
They have not said that. Hamas has said they will continue fighting until Palestinians have self-determination and sovereignty. Infact, Hamas has actually openly stated that they DO NOT intend to even kill civilians, women, children and the elderly. Whether or not they follow through with their words, their stated intent, is anything but genocidal. Israel on the other hand, has stated they want to eliminate Gaza and everythign in it. That is genocidal. Let me refresh your memory with a little Yaov Gallant.

 

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No, just your continual anti-semitic claims about American Jews, subjugation of America, and Jews wanting blood.
Wow, so much antisemitism in one post.
This is a discussion about zionists, you should cut your hate speech about the Jewish people.

I only ever discuss zionists and Israeli government policy.
Most moral Jews are against the genocide.

Toronto and the world are standing up against your vile racist hatred.
 

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Yes, Hamas are radical Islamists who regularly engage in hate speech. That's part of the reason why Canada considers Hamas a terrorist organization.
And yet Israel are far, far more evil by every single metric.
What does that say for you now, that you are left with poor comparisons to Hamas, Iran and Yemeni as the low bar you can't even rise above?

The hate filled genocide you cheer for here is filled with so many massacres and tragedies that nobody can even keep track of them anymore.
The flour massacre.


The slaughter of patients and doctors at Shifa hospital.

Every day a new massacre of women, children and civilians.
 

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And yet Israel are far, far more evil by every single metric.
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Yes, we know you think being Jewish in the middle east is evil. meanwhile Hamas is the only reason why there haven't been ceasefires multiple times.

 

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They have not said that. Hamas has said they will continue fighting until Palestinians have self-determination and sovereignty. ...
Sorry but you really should just stop making up your own reality. Maybe start by reading source documents instead of relying on some third-hand comment on twitter.
 

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Half of Israeli Jews are Arabs?
What are you talking about?
Google Mizrahi Jews. Many of them are the descendants of the million Jews ethnically cleansed from Arab/Muslim states in the 1950's.

But I'm sure that your 'concern' about Arabs won't extend to Jewish Arabs.
 

Kautilya

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Sorry but you really should just stop making up your own reality. Maybe start by reading source documents instead of relying on some third-hand comment on twitter.
I did. It was directly in Hamas' publication - "Our Narrative". Here is how they conclude the section, after they provide reasons for October 7.

Proceeding from the above, Operation Al-Aqsa Flood on Oct. 7 was a necessary step and a normal response to confront all Israeli conspiracies against the Palestinian people and their cause. It was a defensive act in the frame of getting rid of the Israeli occupation, reclaiming the Palestinian rights and on the way for liberation and independence like all peoples around the world did.
 
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