Che Guevara

gallo negro

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If you don't know much about Che...then I wonder why you choose to comment.
Why because all throughout history the so called white man has proven to be a liar, murderer and thief. Take John Brown for instance son of an abolitionist who plan to invade the south and free the slaves. Certain textbooks take a neutral approach to John Brown, not explaining why he became a hero to so called blacks and nonslaveholding so called whites. Now other textbooks make him out to be insane, mentally ill, deranged, gaunt, grim, terrible, and crackbrained. Most readers grew up reading that Brown was a fanatic if not crazed.
Governor Wise of Virinia called him "a man of clear head" after an informal interview with Brown.
But to the historians of that time his insanity was not psychological it was idealogical. To make no sense is to be crazy. Times haven't changed much, history certainly does repeat itself.
 

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Why because all throughout history the so called white man has proven to be a liar, murderer and thief. Take John Brown for instance son of an abolitionist who plan to invade the south and free the slaves. Certain textbooks take a neutral approach to John Brown, not explaining why he became a hero to so called blacks and nonslaveholding so called whites. Now other textbooks make him out to be insane, mentally ill, deranged, gaunt, grim, terrible, and crackbrained. Most readers grew up reading that Brown was a fanatic if not crazed.
Governor Wise of Virinia called him "a man of clear head" after an informal interview with Brown.
But to the historians of that time his insanity was not psychological it was idealogical. To make no sense is to be crazy. Times haven't changed much, history certainly does repeat itself.
Take a breath will ya and think. White man?

As opposed to Idi Ami, Robert Mugabi, Jean Bedel Bokassa, Omar al-Bashir, Teodoro Obiang Nguema, or Paul Biya. none of these heads of state are very white and are considered among the worst dictators/leaders in the world. I cite only personalities from one continent, but could expand my list to other areas of non white population if you'd like.
 

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I've read quite a bit about Guevara over the years. You can dress it all up as "revolutionary" activities, but the plain truth was that Guevara was a murderer.

Frankly, it pisses me off every time I see some teenager wearing a Che Guevara t-shirt. You might as well wear a t-shirt with Stalin, Hitler, or Pol Pot on it. Same result. I'll bet that you won't find too many of those t-shirts or images of Guevara for sale in Miami!
 

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I hear what your saying and like i said before i'm not saying that their aren't devils in these other nations as well, just remember one thing who or what nation of people control the world? The UN is made up of all so called white nations. The powers that be are predominantely white. Throughout history what nation of people have been responsible for the majority of genocide?
Now i know so called black on black crime is rampant, you have to remember this is due to 400 years of oppression, colonizing, playing the people against eachother...divide and conquer is how they do this.
A great book i'm reading right now is Lies My Teacher Told Me by James W. Loewen. You should check it out.
 

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Why because all throughout history the so called white man has proven to be a liar, murderer and thief. Take John Brown for instance son of an abolitionist who plan to invade the south and free the slaves. Certain textbooks take a neutral approach to John Brown, not explaining why he became a hero to so called blacks and nonslaveholding so called whites. Now other textbooks make him out to be insane, mentally ill, deranged, gaunt, grim, terrible, and crackbrained. Most readers grew up reading that Brown was a fanatic if not crazed.
Governor Wise of Virinia called him "a man of clear head" after an informal interview with Brown.
But to the historians of that time his insanity was not psychological it was idealogical. To make no sense is to be crazy. Times haven't changed much, history certainly does repeat itself.
Well...that is classy...calling a whole race (or at least half of it) murderers, liars and theives...I wonder if there is a word for that...?
 

gallo negro

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My friend the truth is the truth, i can't deny that.
These people are beneficiaries of their ancestors, who raped robbed and murdered and to this day goes on under the guise of democracy...yay
 

blackrock13

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I hear what your saying and like i said before i'm not saying that their aren't devils in these other nations as well, just remember one thing who or what nation of people control the world? The UN is made up of all so called white nations. The powers that be are predominantely white. Throughout history what nation of people have been responsible for the majority of genocide?
Now i know so called black on black crime is rampant, you have to remember this is due to 400 years of oppression, colonizing, playing the people against eachother...divide and conquer is how they do this.
A great book i'm reading right now is Lies My Teacher Told Me by James W. Loewen. You should check it out.
I think you'll find that most of the nations in the UN are not white led nations. Approximately half of the G20 are in the same boat. If you consider Latino led nation non white as some might, the numbers skew even more drastically.
 

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My friend the truth is the truth, i can't deny that.
These people are beneficiaries of their ancestors, who raped robbed and murdered and to this day goes on under the guise of democracy...yay
Let's approach it this way. It is not the truth that all white men and liars, murders and thieves.

You are just spewing racist blather.
 

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Take a breath will ya and think. White man?

As opposed to Idi Ami, Robert Mugabi, Jean Bedel Bokassa, Omar al-Bashir, Teodoro Obiang Nguema, or Paul Biya. none of these heads of state are very white and are considered among the worst dictators/leaders in the world. I cite only personalities from one continent, but could expand my list to other areas of non white population if you'd like.
There have been countless genocides, wars, killing, whatever in Africa since the beginning of time. Recent biggies include - Rawanda, Nigeria, Sudan, Ivory Coast, Somalia, Zaire you name it - the list is endless.

Slavery?

It was invented by Africans and still practiced today.

It's always easy to blame white people. So old and so predictable to blame the other guy rather than blame yourself.
 

gallo negro

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Let's approach it this way. It is not the truth that all white men and liars, murders and thieves.

You are just spewing racist blather.
So is it not true that so called white people are benefiting from their ancestors who committed many atrocious acts.
 

gallo negro

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I think you'll find that most of the nations in the UN are not white led nations. Approximately half of the G20 are in the same boat. If you consider Latino led nation non white as some might, the numbers skew even more drastically.
I stand corrected but really do we actually think these so called minority nations pull any weight in these organizations. The US played an instrumental role in the creation of the UN. This is the same nation that invaded and colonized a majority of these nations setting up their puppet governments.
 

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I don't want to be a dick about this however...........

Atrocities have been committed by every ethnic group all over the world.
Some have had better record keeping than others and now people like to shout and point and say "Hey these guys did this to those guys 1100 years ago!"
Why isn't anyone saying that the Mongols are benefiting from their past crimes? Or the Chinese?
Oh yah because you "wanna keep the white man down"
Let he who has not sinned.......
 

rld

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So is it not true that so called white people are benefiting from their ancestors who committed many atrocious acts.
Absolutely. But that does not make me a murder, thief or liar.

And in fact, since you are using the internet I can suggest you are also a beneficiary of many "white" historic atrocities.

How would you feel about the next Che putting a gun to your head for that?
 

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If you like Stalinists who kill without trials, oppose democratic elections who really were not good at what they did...
I think you are being a bit impractical, when you require revolutionaries to obey the rule of law. Are you suggesting that Che should have sued the Batista government and the mafia for human rights violations? And are you suggesting that insurgents need to conduct proper trials, while the oppressing side can kill with impunity. Did Che get a proper trial before the CIA executed him, when he was their prisoner?
 
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