Che Guevara
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I'd clarify that and say he was a murderous bastard toward those inflicting repression on people (politicians and military). Otherwise, he was a doctor that gave his time to help common folks.Murderous Communist bastard
Thats Please Mr. Murderous Communist bastard, don't kill me!!!!!Murderous Communist bastard
I would offer that he killed and raped rather indiscriminately. An all-around asshole extraordinaire, who would have been a Hitler or a Stalin had he had access to a bigger army and more people to kill.I'd clarify that and say he was a murderous bastard toward those inflicting repression on people (politicians and military). Otherwise, he was a doctor that gave his time to help common folks.
One of Woody's pupils I see.I'd clarify that and say he was a murderous bastard toward those inflicting repression on people (politicians and military). Otherwise, he was a doctor that gave his time to help common folks.
Blessings upon you for this magnificent statement.He was no Simon Bolivar.
His crime (as you call it) was to fight against oppression mainly american led repressive regimes in Cuba, Congo and in Bolivia.I would offer that he killed and raped rather indiscriminately. An all-around asshole extraordinaire, who would have been a Hitler or a Stalin had he had access to a bigger army and more people to kill.
I am sure it deeply distresses you that the mafia and Batista is no longer running Cuba. What a pity. What a tragedy.
He went to medical school, but never practiced as a doctor for one minute. He had no credentials as an MD, only a murderer of extreme proportions.I'd clarify that and say he was a murderous bastard toward those inflicting repression on people (politicians and military). Otherwise, he was a doctor that gave his time to help common folks.
While it is absolutely true that Cuba was in the palm of the American mafia and the puppet gov't of Batista - the alternative of Castro and Guevera were (arguably) far worse. Evidence the fact that Castro is still in power some 50 years later and has installed himself as Emperor for life.His crime (as you call it) was to fight against oppression mainly american led repressive regimes in Cuba, Congo and in Bolivia.
I am sure it deeply distresses you that the mafia and Batista is no longer running Cuba. What a pity. What a tragedy.
Guevera was not a good person. He executed people indiscriminately, he silenced the press, jailed or murdered those who opposed him, he executed and or imprisoned homosexuals, shot teachers, you name it. All in his own twisted sense of reality.
If he and Castro had simply turfed the puppet gov't of Batista and then installed a democratically elected gov't that guaranteed human rights farily and equally - you'd have a point. But he did no such thing. 50 years on it's the same sad story.
Idolize the guy if you want - but these are the facts.
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Completely stupid militarily too, at least as far as his last pathetic attempt to stoke a revolution in Bolivia goes.
They are your opinions not facts.While it is absolutely true that Cuba was in the palm of the American mafia and the puppet gov't of Batista - the alternative of Castro and Guevera were (arguably) far worse. Evidence the fact that Castro is still in power some 50 years later and has installed himself as Emperor for life.
Guevera was not a good person. He executed people indiscriminately, he silenced the press, jailed or murdered those who opposed him, he executed and or imprisoned homosexuals, shot teachers, you name it. All in his own twisted sense of reality.
If he and Castro had simply turfed the puppet gov't of Batista and then installed a democratically elected gov't that guaranteed human rights farily and equally - you'd have a point. But he did no such thing. 50 years on it's the same sad story.
Idolize the guy if you want - but these are the facts.
His textbooks on guerilla warfare was required reading in US military.Completely stupid militarily too, at least as far as his last pathetic attempt to stoke a revolution in Bolivia goes.
His crimes include murdering political prisoners without benefit of even a show trial. I also don't think much of his desire to use nuclear weapons.His crime (as you call it) was to fight against oppression mainly american led repressive regimes in Cuba, Congo and in Bolivia.
I am sure it deeply distresses you that the mafia and Batista is no longer running Cuba. What a pity. What a tragedy.
After he left Cuba he became a bit of a joke.
I don't know much about Che however if he was executing these imperialistic, murdering, thieving, rapist, bastards then he's an Ace in my book. You see the problem with the so called white man is he thinks he can go into any nation rob, rape, pillage and think everything is okay.
I am from South America and i seen the oppression the people are going through, now i'm not saying these third world nations don't have their own thieves, rapists and murderss, but when you have these so called democratic nations coming in colonizing in the guise of DEMOCRACY, PEACE, RELIGION or whatever bullshit reason they want to call it.
Then totally raping the people of their sovereignty, resources, land, history, pretty much leaving the people with scraps to fight among theirselves. Instilling puppet governments not for the people and by the people but for the 10% rich minorities in these countries, the corporations.
Don't know what most people beliefs are but one thing most can agree on is Karma is a bitch, what goes around comes around, these people's empire is falling, just like the Romans, Greeks, Babylon etc
I am from South America and i seen the oppression the people are going through, now i'm not saying these third world nations don't have their own thieves, rapists and murderss, but when you have these so called democratic nations coming in colonizing in the guise of DEMOCRACY, PEACE, RELIGION or whatever bullshit reason they want to call it.
Then totally raping the people of their sovereignty, resources, land, history, pretty much leaving the people with scraps to fight among theirselves. Instilling puppet governments not for the people and by the people but for the 10% rich minorities in these countries, the corporations.
Don't know what most people beliefs are but one thing most can agree on is Karma is a bitch, what goes around comes around, these people's empire is falling, just like the Romans, Greeks, Babylon etc
Actually, I think not. He gave up his positions as minister in the government and head of the national bank to do what he thought was right, namely to help fight the imperialistic forces in Congo and in Bolivia, according to his theories. If you can find nothing else good to say about Che, at least acknowledge that he "walked the walk". Most revolutionary theorists are always being accused of "just" being intellectuals without doing the dirty work. Che did.After he left Cuba he became a bit of a joke.
Finally, someone with knowledge. Che was an extrodinary individual. It's amazing how some people are still so ignorant to think he was some murding madan. Baffling.His crime (as you call it) was to fight against oppression mainly american led repressive regimes in Cuba, Congo and in Bolivia.
I am sure it deeply distresses you that the mafia and Batista is no longer running Cuba. What a pity. What a tragedy.
If you don't know much about Che...then I wonder why you choose to comment.I don't know much about Che however if he was executing these imperialistic, murdering, thieving, rapist, bastards then he's an Ace in my book. You see the problem with the so called white man is he thinks he can go into any nation rob, rape, pillage and think everything is okay.
I am from South America and i seen the oppression the people are going through, now i'm not saying these third world nations don't have their own thieves, rapists and murderss, but when you have these so called democratic nations coming in colonizing in the guise of DEMOCRACY, PEACE, RELIGION or whatever bullshit reason they want to call it.
Then totally raping the people of their sovereignty, resources, land, history, pretty much leaving the people with scraps to fight among theirselves. Instilling puppet governments not for the people and by the people but for the 10% rich minorities in these countries, the corporations.
Don't know what most people beliefs are but one thing most can agree on is Karma is a bitch, what goes around comes around, these people's empire is falling, just like the Romans, Greeks, Babylon etc
I acknowledge that he tried to walk the walk, but suggest fell flat on his face.Actually, I think not. He gave up his positions as minister in the government and head of the national bank to do what he thought was right, namely to help fight the imperialistic forces in Congo and in Bolivia, according to his theories. If you can find nothing else good to say about Che, at least acknowledge that he "walked the walk". Most revolutionary theorists are always being accused of "just" being intellectuals without doing the dirty work. Che did.
African history is one of my passions. He was a joke in the Congo and had no ability to motivate or organize effectively. Just how successful was he in Bolivia?
Really! I didn't know he did a movie about him. Guess that's what I think of Che but after going to Cuba, I'm interested.
You know, the CIA (Jesus James Angleton I think had something to do with it or was there) executed him I think.
You know, the CIA (Jesus James Angleton I think had something to do with it or was there) executed him I think.
Che: 2008, Benicio Del Toro
Che Guevara: 2005, Eduardo Noriega
The Motorcycle Diaries: 2004, Gael Garcia Bernal
Che!: 1969, Omar Sharif
And a whole pile more, but those are the key ones. Motorcycle Diaries picked up a couple Oscars.
