eglinton subway is coming!!!

[TVA]

Just heard the news they plan to build subway line on eglinton ave, all the way from airport to kennedy station. does this mean my house will go up in value as it on the path of the new subway line?

http://www.toronto.ca/involved/projects/eglinton_crosstown_lrt/pdf/map.pdf

 

[nottyboi]

when will it be completed?

 

[zarbe]

thats a lot of stops, it would take ages to get to the other end

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Just heard the news they plan to build subway line on eglinton ave, all the way from airport to kennedy station. does this mean my house will go up in value as it on the path of the new subway line?

The Globe says it's going west to Black Creek Drive, not Pearson Airport or Airport Drive.
I imagine it'd be really expensive to run a subway line straight into the airport. Cab drivers would sure be weeping.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...-province-will-be-underground/article1964824/

Ford wants to do a Finch subway line too; but I think a Steeles Line would make more sense.
Over the course of the next 60 years you could go from Marham Road in Scarborough all the way out to Hurontario in Mississauga.

 

[SilentLeviathan]

It's not a subway, it's an LRT line. Basically a streetcar that runs underground.

 

[hinz]

It's not a subway, it's an LRT line. Basically a streetcar that runs underground.

Let's see whether we are going to get this running underground. Don't count on it.

 

[shack]

Ford wants to do a Finch subway line too; but I think a Steeles Line would make more sense.

But that would require the co-operation of the municipalities that border the north side of Steeles. I can't see that many politicians agreeing on anything.

 

[oldjones]

It's good to see we're finally getting back on track and restoring the Eglinton line Harris filled in. Good for Rob. But (and it's a big BUT—so to speak) are they digging, laying track and building stations that could serve full-scale subway trains when development makes the underground LRT inadequate? Or is this really yet another Con-job, fobbing off something short-term and cheap that'll have to be dug up and replaced in no time? What we want and need is guys like R.C. Harris who built the Bloor viaduct with the train capacity, even though the trains themselves would be decades away.

We wait to see if Rob's vison goes that far, maybe he's showing he's got more than the Bomber ever did. But not if all he's doing so very expensively is burying streetcars.

 

[Questor]

The Globe says it's going west to Black Creek Drive, not Pearson Airport or Airport Drive.
I imagine it'd be really expensive to run a subway line straight into the airport. Cab drivers would sure be weeping.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...-province-will-be-underground/article1964824/

Ford wants to do a Finch subway line too; but I think a Steeles Line would make more sense.
Over the course of the next 60 years you could go from Marham Road in Scarborough all the way out to Hurontario in Mississauga.

It will be an LRT underground to Black Creek, then surface line, I believe as far as the airport.

Sure, Ford wants to build a Finch subway, but he hasn't even figured out how to pay for the extended Sheppard subway yet, much less Finch. The Eglinton LRT is scheduled for completion in 2020. We'll see how far construction delays push that back...2022, 2023?

And oldjones makes a good point about whether the line can be changed to a full subway to increase capacity when the time comes.

I still think this is a mistake. Transit City was the way to go. It was approved and the funding was secured. It would be built much faster to service communities and neighbourhoods that need transit now. Sure, everyone wants subway, but nobody wants to pay for them. Ford's plan cost more than Transit City, but will service a smaller area. That means more cars on the road, not fewer.

Furthermore, I question the value of putting in all these east-west lines when the Yonge-University line is so packed. With a Sheppard extension and a new underground LRT on Eglinton, all those people flooding into the Sheppard and Eglinton stations on the Yonge line, they haven't got a hope in hell of getting onto a train between 7 am-10 am and 4 pm- 7 pm. Those trains are jammed full.

 

[good to go]

Transit city runs on the surface and takes space using 3 lanes. If you build underground you can run freely without anyone getting run over or weather affecting service.

 

[oldjones]

But you can't serve nearly as many people.

But theoretically you do make a good point. Lets have all the cars and trucks underground, the roofs overhead would be very cheap, only having to support foot traffic, and perhaps a few electric vehicles, running though park-like landscaping.

And the cars wouldn't need all that heavy sheetmetal and glass keeping weather out.

 

[james t kirk]

It's an underground LRT, not a subway (as others have already pointed out.)

This was in fact part of "Transit City" - though I believe under "Transit City" only 5 km of the Eglinton LRT was to run underground and with this announcement, it will be underground all the way from Black Creek to Kennedy, where it would run surface and replace the existing Scarborough Rapid Transit system.

I haven't read anything about it running to the airport, though it could.

The GO Transit Georgetown line is currently being upgraded from one track to four tracks and it (the Georgetown line) is basically the CNR Weston Subdivision and it runs out to the airport and to Georgetown. GO is planning to build 2 tracks into the airport which will ferry commuters back and forth between the airport and Union Station.

The GO Georgetown line is immediately west of Black Creek Drive, right by the old Kodak factory (which has been recently torn down)

LOGICALLY, one could build a GO Station on the site of the old Kodak plant which would be the terminus of the Eglinton LRT and it would connect into the GO line to the airport. If you were coming from the airport, most likely you would prefer to go right to Union Station, however you would have the option of hopping on the LRT along Eglinton.

A great idea if I say so myself.

The good news is that design work had alread commenced on the Eglinton LRT under Transit City. The designs could now feature underground LRT from Black Creek to Eglinton. I am aware that at the time that the design for Eglinton LRT was being done under Transit City, there was considerable debate as to whether or not the tunnels for the LRT should be at least constructed to a subway standard for potential conversion in the future. (It is slightly cheaper to build the smaller LRT tunnels than subway compatable tunnels.

To me, it's a no-brainer. Build the tunnels so that you could convert them in the future to subway. (Take a lesson from the Bloor Viaduct which RC Harris had constructed to support a subway 40 years before Toronto even dreamed about a Bloor subway line.)

 

[oldjones]

The decision was Transit City's 'lots of better than we've got, but not as good as we'd like' all over town versus 'a bit of way better than we've got and no one's saying whether it could be made as good as we'd like' but just in one part of town. Nuthin' nowhere else. The Sheppard lines that still show as projects on the map are entirely unfunded. A pious intention from Rob to complete them with someone else's money's like me imagining people will take me to lunch all next year for my witty banter.

Great to have the line under Eg, by my choice woulda been keep it aboveground and have more lines in more places.