<Deep thoughts> type o' question about The Law of Attraction
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The fact you dont like it should be a sign for most other Terbites that LOA is very real
AS Jim Morrison said, "People are strange when you're a stranger".
Why are angry victim type people always getting the short end of the stick?
Why are positive people always finding reasons to be happy?
We must differentiate between creating or appreciating dark art and being angry and negative. The former brings a peaceful serene understanding of life's nature while the latter just causes bad mental and physical health.
Why are angry victim type people always getting the short end of the stick?
Why are positive people always finding reasons to be happy?
We must differentiate between creating or appreciating dark art and being angry and negative. The former brings a peaceful serene understanding of life's nature while the latter just causes bad mental and physical health.
Life is about perception... I always believe that life is whatever you perceive to be real, so if you want to believe in the law of attraction then go for it! You should get Kareena involved in this conversation, she is my spiritual teacher.
Cheers,
Ron
http://skepdic.com/lawofattraction.html
The law of attraction is a New (Dark) Age belief that one's mental disposition attracts similar external circumstances and events. In other words, your mental intentions and attitudes draw people and things of like intention and attitude to yourself. On one level this is trivially true. We generally hang out with people who think like us and share our values and we avoid people who disagree with us on important matters and don't share our values. But a moment's reflection should reveal that this "law" is false; it's not even truthy.
Sellers don't attract sellers; they attract buyers, unless they're running an MLM scheme. Lazy dreamers don't attract lazy dreamers. They attract con artists with big smiles and lots of promises. Grieving vulnerable people don't attract vulnerable people; they attract vultures and vampires who take advantage of their grief. If you say that grief and greed are both negative so this example supports the law of attraction, then this law is impossible to test. It's too slippery to have any meaningful content if obvious contradictions to it are said to support it. When kindness begets not more kindness but resentment, a New (Dark) Age defender of this "law" can always claim that the kindness wasn't genuine.
One of the main purveyors of this belief is Gary "Dancing Wu Li Masters" Zukav. According to Zukav:
Each personality draws to itself personalities with consciousness of like frequency or like weakness. The frequency of anger attracts the frequency of anger, the frequency of greed attracts greed, and so on. This is the law of attraction. Negativity attracts negativity, just as love attracts love. Therefore, the world of an angry person is filled with angry people, the world of a greedy person is filled with greedy people, and a loving person lives in a world of loving people.*
The so-called law of attraction is the kind of law that many people will find attractive. It provides them with the illusion of having control over their lives. All I need to do is change my attitude and intentions and I'll attract money like a magnet (or lose weight or whatever else it is I want to achieve). If it doesn't work, it's my fault because I didn't genuinely change my attitude and intentions. Sound familiar? What is it that the faith healers say about those who don't get healed? You didn't have enough faith!
If you want to succeed at something, draw up a plan of action. List what you want to achieve. List what you must do to achieve your goals in the order you must do them. Specify how you are going to measure success at each step along the way. Anything on the list that requires you to passively wait for somebody else to act must be eliminated from your list before you continue. If you can't achieve your goals without the help of others, pick the best people possible to help you and listen to them when they offer advice. Go down the list and check off each item as it is completed. If an item can't be completed, don't blame others. Come up with an alternative plan. Then move on to the next item. When you've accomplished all your goals, make up another list of goals and start over. Reaching one's goal is usually not as satisfying as striving to achieve it. Anyway, some goals aren't worth achieving. You'll do well to re-examine your goals regularly and weed out the worthless ones.
And remember: Anyone who tells you they have the secret to unlimited joy, health, money, relationships, love, youth, and everything else you have ever wanted, is lying to you. So, do not be fooled by any of the following Internet ads: Get Rich #1, Get Rich #2, Get Rich #3, Get Rich #4, and Get Rich #5. What do they have in common? None of them tell you what you have to do to get rich quick. They do tell you that they are not MLM schemes. #3 (Eric with Kimberly) and #4 (Jan and Shane) have in common that they have testimonials from the same people. Another thing they have in common is that they, and others like them, all pay Google to list them when you search for "law of attraction." Ask yourself: Who is attracted to people who run such ads or who promote such come-ons as "The Secret"? They attract people who aren't like them but want to be like what they think these folks represent. And that is a pity.
The law of attraction originated in the 19th century movement known as the New Thought movement. An early proponent of the idea was William Walker Atkinson (1862-1932), who attributed his recovery from various physical, psychological, and financial disasters to the power of belief. He wrote a number of popular books about it, including Thought Vibration or the Law of Attraction in the Thought World (1906). Belief in the power of belief has been an attractive message for millions of people for hundreds of years, even though there is little evidence to support the notion that believing something can make it so. Most of the supportive evidence is anecdotal. The evidence from science supports a limited influence from the placebo effect. Proper scientific tests of the power of belief to cure serious illnesses, however, have been universally negative. Those who claim that some tests have shown a positive healing effect from prayer, visualization, or positive thinking are motivated more by desire to believe than by the actual evidence. The same is true for scientific tests of the ability of people to affect something physical using only thought.*
See also confirmation bias, manifesting, and magical thinking.
Yes he is.
But strangely enough, for me LOA is working. And its all because I listened to his tapes (which I downloaded for free) :biggrin1:
How would you know if skepdick is right?? Just because you read it on their website??
Fair enough.
Could you elaborate on how it has worked for you?
How often do you listen to his stuff?
Could you elaborate on how it has worked for you?
How often do you listen to his stuff?
I only listened to Trudeau's tapes once.
I also read a bunch of books on LOA. The best ones are:
1. 'Ask and it is given': by Hicks
2. 'Creative Visualization': by Gawain Shakti
And a bunch of others.
It takes a few months of practice before you get the hang of it. Most people practice LOA daily and arent even aware of it. They go through life being mainly negative and thats why so may negatives things happen to them. Like attracts like.
There are also certain "tricks of the trade" you have to learn to get LOA to work properly
Originally Posted by Protoss
Question: When you talk about The Law of Attraction are you talking about the idea that our physical reality is created by our consciousness? So then our physical reality is manifest from a consensus of everyone on the planet basically voting with their thoughts and feelings every moment. It's a biocentric view of reality if you will where life creates the universe instead of the other way around. You might enjoy reading this http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31393080.../#.UFKmfEKUpm8
Question: When you talk about The Law of Attraction are you talking about the idea that our physical reality is created by our consciousness? So then our physical reality is manifest from a consensus of everyone on the planet basically voting with their thoughts and feelings every moment. It's a biocentric view of reality if you will where life creates the universe instead of the other way around. You might enjoy reading this http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31393080.../#.UFKmfEKUpm8
Yeah for sure. I am a big Coast to Coast fan. Lanza has been hosted by George Noory at least a couple a times as well. I personally believe we are closely approaching some fascinating breakthroughs in this field soon.
Originally Posted by Protoss
Question: When you talk about The Law of Attraction are you talking about the idea that our physical reality is created by our consciousness? So then our physical reality is manifest from a consensus of everyone on the planet basically voting with their thoughts and feelings every moment. It's a biocentric view of reality if you will where life creates the universe instead of the other way around. You might enjoy reading this http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31393080.../#.UFKmfEKUpm8
Question: When you talk about The Law of Attraction are you talking about the idea that our physical reality is created by our consciousness? So then our physical reality is manifest from a consensus of everyone on the planet basically voting with their thoughts and feelings every moment. It's a biocentric view of reality if you will where life creates the universe instead of the other way around. You might enjoy reading this http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31393080.../#.UFKmfEKUpm8
Yeah for sure. I am a big Coast to Coast fan. Lanza has been hosted by George Noory at least a couple a times as well. I personally believe we are closely approaching some fascinating breakthroughs in this field soon.
Sounds a lot like "The Secret" bullshit that Oprah was pitching to stupid people a few years back.
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Is what you wrote in your initial post is what got you started? You don't search without having an idea 1st.
