That's you basis? There are a whole lot of guns in the hands of the common man in the US. Like was said, you just make things up almost every time you post.
Man Held for Threatening to Kill Someone, Released on Bail & Follows Through
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Our system is set up to deal after the fact. Sadly there are way too many victims out there that know this to be true. Many would not have been if the system had done its job from beginning to end. There are too many places for criminals to slip through the cracks. From Police, the bail court, to prison, to trail, to ....... the list can go on and on.
This poor women could have cried to so many different people and the outcome would have been the same. Criminals have rights and that is that. Sadly others pay for those rights. It is his right to fair justice. His right to bail, etc. He got all that and she got dead. Can't say what would make it different or better, that is the system.
I can bet the JP and the crown in the case are not all that happy right now.
This poor women could have cried to so many different people and the outcome would have been the same. Criminals have rights and that is that. Sadly others pay for those rights. It is his right to fair justice. His right to bail, etc. He got all that and she got dead. Can't say what would make it different or better, that is the system.
I can bet the JP and the crown in the case are not all that happy right now.
That was 20 years ago man. Have things changed since? MSOG was barely out of jumpers.
No they havent. You still have to jump through many hoops to own a handgun in Canada, while the Premier enjoys all the benefits of having a heavily armed security detail.
Msog is right on this one
Try and stay on focus man, your point was about Rae's not letting TO police have Glocks, not the general public. I believe the TPS are now armed with Glocks, so things have changed. I'm really glad Joe Public has to jump through hoops.
Right. The common man faces the same threat and needs the same protection as the POTUS?
People like you make gun advocates look like morons.
I'm surprised Premier Rae didn't order his security detail to give up their Glocks and use peashooters instead (that is what a real loony liberal leftie would do).
Except considering the number of threats he and others who have held the office get, with more than 4 serious attempts since WWII alone, he would need more protection the average person. The fact that the protection works and few POTUS are ever killed in or after their administration is an indication that the protection works well. You've been told this before, but obviously your ability to remember simple things like this is hampered somewhat.
You really should learn to stop digging yourself deeper. And visit the real world just occasionally.
Whether Obama is "safer" than the average citizen is questionable. He has a great deal more protection, but he well not be safer.
I was referring to the general public not allowed to own Glocks without having to jump through hoops. Anyone with reasonable amount of intelligence (apparently not you) understood what I meant
I realized that, but you also mentioned Rae not allowing the TPS to have Glocks, which is what I was referring to. Anyone with reasonable amount of intelligence (apparently not you) understood what I meant.
none of this is relevant we arnt debating whether obama needs armed protection, but since you think he does you are saying that armed protection is better than unarmed protection. This woman had a nutjob stalker, you idiots are saying a gun wouldnt have made her safer, and that she actually would be worse off if she had a gun when shes fucking dead how can you be worse off than dead? A gun would have been her only hope against a man with a knife.
Well, he DID make a mistake. He released a guy who was charged with threatening death who then went out and killed the victim of the threat. So the secondary ground sorta, kinda got missed on this one.
The JP has the opportunity to review the Crown's case and also to eyeball the accused for a while during the bail hearing. What the result means is that any suggestion that the guy was really going to do what he threatened got swept under the rug at the bail hearing and the JP didn't make the call that the accused was sufficiently nutso and angry to follow through.
Bob Rae initially wouldnt allow cops with Glocks. It was only after the public pointed out his hypocrisy that he allowed cops to have Glocks.
I was referring to Rae's initial hypocrisy. But I give him credit for at least changing his mind
Spot on
I don't think the judge made a mistake, you are innocent until proven guilty. these kinds of arrests happen all the time and 99.99% of these guys don't go and kill their gf when released on bail. The issue is not that he was let out on bail, the issue is this woman did not have the means to protect herself incase she was attacked.
Yes we are as you keep bringing it into the discussion and no I didn't say armed protection is better as a general rule, just necessary in the case of POTUS. The death of this women is a shame, but it weak to say a gun would have saved her life. It's just as likely she'd shoot herself in the foot or hand like trained experienced gun people have done recently at gun shows.
You still haven't told us if you've actually fired a gun or shot a living think. A simple question and should only require a simple answer.
What grade did you complete? We already know you didn't get a degree.
If whether BO needs armed protection is irrelevant why did you bring it up?
Are you now arguing that only women should have handguns and men not have handguns?
Your argument is actually best directed a children. Surely the only hope for children being attacked by an adult is a handgun.
It amazing the depths of stupidity you can sink to so quickly.
Nice dance on the Rae thing, not it's correct, except for the hypocrisy. When you make a mistake it's called hypocrisy now?
Then you go and dig deeper by saying MSOG is spot on.
