Would you download a gun? 100,000 people already have...

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It's not illegal to have a penis, it's illegal to rape someone with one... it's not illegal to own a gun, it's illegal to kill someone.

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Guns don't kill people, penises do.


Thankfully those 100,000 people don't have 3D printers.
 

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and i believe that there is no reason for trucks to be on the road,...
You mean besides delivering millions of tonnes of food and consumer products every day?

Meanwhile guns are needed for...
(And I don't buy the 'protect my house' argument - but then again I've only spent a good chunk of my life in a high crime area with no issues). IMO they are a hobby, not a necessity.

I see no reason to ban them but the NRA lobby opposing sensible constraints is idiotic.
 

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Guns don't kill people, penises do.


Thankfully those 100,000 people don't have 3D printers.
You got the metaphor wrong, but you did that on purpose because the correct one makes sense.

Everyone in the US that really wants a gun has one, regardless of background, many acquired illegally.

Guns for fellons are like pot for collage kids, illegal but easy to find.

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You got the metaphor wrong, but you did that on purpose because the correct one makes sense.

Everyone in the US that really wants a gun has one, regardless of background, many acquired illegally.

Guns for fellons are like pot for collage kids, illegal but easy to find.

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700-1200$ depending on thegun you want and who you go to, to get it. not that i would know, i am clearly just guessing.
 

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700-1200$ depending on thegun you want and who you go to, to get it. not that i would know, i am clearly just guessing.
So you know where to get illegal guns, and instead of doing something about it you come on here and cry about the legal gun owners!
wow, no wonder you're a truck driver hahahhaah
 

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You got the metaphor wrong, but you did that on purpose because the correct one makes sense.

Everyone in the US that really wants a gun has one, regardless of background, many acquired illegally.

Guns for fellons are like pot for collage kids, illegal but easy to find.

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If you want guns out of the hands of criminals, you should support the ATF in investigating gun dealers. Stats say that the vast majority of illegal guns come from a small number of dirty dealers and the ATF can do next to nothing about it.

And why do people worry about criminals getting guns but protect the right to walk into a gun show with cash and walk out with whatever weapon you want?
 

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So you know where to get illegal guns, and instead of doing something about it you come on here and cry about the legal gun owners!
wow, no wonder you're a truck driver hahahhaah
again with the truck driver thing, yet you defend them in other threads.

i was never crying about legal gun owners or saying that people shouldn't own guns. just said that you need to change the way it is done now because it is clearly not working.

you are kinda showing me that you are an extremist in thought and it is either 1 way or another and no middle ground or grey area at all. someone says gun laws and you say you can't ban guns, who is talking about banning guns, no one except you that's who.
 

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i think it was real stupid this guy released these files.. I know what he's trying to prove that the government cannot control citizens and so on... but the only people who are going to go this route to get a gun is likely the criminals. The rest can just go buy guns legally or off a gun show. I can also see a home hobbyist trying to make money off these files by getting these printed and selling to criminals
 

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700-1200$ depending on thegun you want and who you go to, to get it. not that i would know, i am clearly just guessing.
Just watched a PBS special - teenager in WI said he paid $60.... But I have no idea - just what he said.
 

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Just watched a PBS special - teenager in WI said he paid $60.... But I have no idea - just what he said.
illegal guns in canada are smuggled in from the u.s so typically cost more. illegal guns in the u.s come from the u.s and cost less. that would be my guess anyway.
 

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again with the truck driver thing, yet you defend them in other threads.

i was never crying about legal gun owners or saying that people shouldn't own guns. just said that you need to change the way it is done now because it is clearly not working.

you are kinda showing me that you are an extremist in thought and it is either 1 way or another and no middle ground or grey area at all. someone says gun laws and you say you can't ban guns, who is talking about banning guns, no one except you that's who.
so lets hear your suggestion, im all ears
 

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so lets hear your suggestion, im all ears
start with back ground checks. put a hold on buying them, 7 days would work. i see no reason to own more than one but i would never tell anyone they can't. perhaps limit the firing speed, i mean can you give me a logical reason why you would need to fire 30 rounds a minute. i would adopt gun law policies from countries that have effect gun control for the most part.
 

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start with back ground checks. put a hold on buying them, 7 days would work. i see no reason to own more than one but i would never tell anyone they can't. perhaps limit the firing speed, i mean can you give me a logical reason why you would need to fire 30 rounds a minute. i would adopt gun law policies from countries that have effect gun control for the most part.
30 rounds per minute? Shit, my lever action rifles are capable of that speed. People who know nothing about guns should have no say on gun policies.
 

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30 rounds per minute? Shit, my lever action rifles are capable of that speed.
sorry, not to familiar with firing speed of fully automatic rifles. never needed to get to know them as i never needed or wanted to shoot or have one. i had originally put 30 per second but that seemed excessive.
 

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i think it was real stupid this guy released these files.. I know what he's trying to prove that the government cannot control citizens and so on... but the only people who are going to go this route to get a gun is likely the criminals. The rest can just go buy guns legally or off a gun show. I can also see a home hobbyist trying to make money off these files by getting these printed and selling to criminals
Think about it, if one, poorly funded law student, can do it can't any criminal or terrorist organization? He didn't let the Cat out of the bag, he showed the bag is going away. He woke up the US government, not bad.
 

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Thankfully those 100,000 people don't have 3D printers.
Yet.

The technology is more "proof of concept" today. The printed gun can only be fired a couple of times and has dubious accuracy and reliability, while 3D printers remain relatively rare.

But in 20 or 30 years or seems likely the printing technology will have improved and the design enhanced.

Someone will modify it to build around a small steel plumbing pipe to strengthen the barrel and printing technology will also improve and become widespread.

Reasonably good reliable firearms will then become something you can make at home.
 
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