They will be from the plane. The Aussies are pretty professional and have good equipment. They would not be sending 3-4 planes out if the objects were marginal.
Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 hijacked, official says
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It does look like the RAAF and USN have found debris. The problems for recovery of the 'black boxes' are staggering, the area is in the Roaring Forties and I understand that it could be at a depth twice the depth of Air France.They will be from the plane. The Aussies are pretty professional and have good equipment. They would not be sending 3-4 planes out if the objects were marginal.
So far I have only seen stories that the objects are worth a look but no confirmation they are really from the plane?It does look like the RAAF and USN have found debris. The problems for recovery of the 'black boxes' are staggering, the area is in the Roaring Forties and I understand that it could be at a depth twice the depth of Air France.
That is correct, it looks like aircraft debris, and it is right where the newly developed U.S. maps of where debris from the aircraft if it took the southern route would be. However, you are correct that it will be at least two days before ships of the RAN can arrive there.So far I have only seen stories that the objects are worth a look but no confirmation they are really from the plane?
If bluelaser is around, I would love to hear his take on why the plane would fly south.
There are two credible scenarios for the plane going off course:
1. Fire or something else, that had the pilots steer towards the nearest landing strip. However, they were overcome by smoke and the plane continued in its set direction west.
2. The pilots or somebody else took control of the plane. Why then fly towards nothing??
There are two credible scenarios for the plane going off course:
1. Fire or something else, that had the pilots steer towards the nearest landing strip. However, they were overcome by smoke and the plane continued in its set direction west.
2. The pilots or somebody else took control of the plane. Why then fly towards nothing??
Suicide. Try and conceal the suicide by hiding the crash site so that insurance pays out to the family. The plane may be found only because of these obscure satellite handshakes that the pilot didn't know about, he thought he was flying radio silent, away from radar, to a place hours from his flight plan where none would ever find the wreckage: the further away and more remote the better.Why then fly towards nothing??
Pretty evil suicide, taking a couple hundred people with you, if that is what happened.
The CVR will probably be empty as it does a 2 hr loop, but the FDR will reveal what switches were used by the crew in what order. Unless the pilot was still alive and said something before he crashed the plane, but chances are he was already dead and had already removed his oxygen mask. Quite evil indeed. One of the pilots had to kill the other for sure. Either right there or when they left the cockpit, decompressing the plane.
I do not believe someone would fly a plane for 7 hours to commit suicide. A remote possibility is of course that the pilot pointed the plane south and took poison.The CVR will probably be empty as it does a 2 hr loop, but the FDR will reveal what switches were used by the crew in what order. Unless the pilot was still alive and said something before he crashed the plane, but chances are he was already dead and had already removed his oxygen mask. Quite evil indeed. One of the pilots had to kill the other for sure. Either right there or when they left the cockpit, decompressing the plane.
It has been reported that someone on a segway has been seen in the area searching for the aircraft.
If your objection is that he would have second thoughts: Once he killed all the passengers by depressurizing and climbing to 45k feet, then spending several hours to conceal his crime and his own suicide seem plausible to me.I do not believe someone would fly a plane for 7 hours to commit suicide. A remote possibility is of course that the pilot pointed the plane south and took poison.
He could also have set the flight path into the autopilot to conceal the crime then as nb suggests taken off his own oxygen mask only minutes after killing everyone else and diverting the plane.
Someone who has seen the satellite photos says it is a section of wing from the engine pylon outward. Since there would be no fuel in the wings, they would float of they detached at impact. I would say 99.9% this is from the plane. You do not get a PM making these announcements without some serious understanding of what they are looking at.
Hopefully this is not yet another false start, however there is a storm coming in and visibility was low and air turbulence significant.The two australian and american search planes reurned without detecting anything.
As mentioned this is in the area of the infamous Roaring Forties and it is early Fall the equivalent of late September.
Also the amount of time on station is limited as there is eight hours of transit time for the AP-3's less for the P-8's to the search area (four out, four back).
You would think the Orion aircraft would be able to detect any debris. It has 6 analysts, 2 pilots, 2 engineers , atactical coordinator and a mechanic onboard, and heaven knows how much equipment.Hopefully this is not yet another false start, however there is a storm coming in and visibility was low and air turbulence significant.
As mentioned this is in the area of the infamous Roaring Forties and it is early Fall the equivalent of late September.
The Orion is designed to detect a submarine up to 500 m under water.
The photo is four days old.You would think the Orion aircraft would be able to detect any debris. It has 6 analysts, 2 pilots, 2 engineers , atactical coordinator and a mechanic onboard, and heaven knows how much equipment.
The Orion is designed to detect a submarine up to 500 m under water.
Exactly how deep are the waters where they are searching and how big is a sub compared to, let's say, a container sizes piece of wreckage.You would think the Orion aircraft would be able to detect any debris. It has 6 analysts, 2 pilots, 2 engineers , atactical coordinator and a mechanic onboard, and heaven knows how much equipment.
The Orion is designed to detect a submarine up to 500 m under water.
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Exactly how deep are the waters where they are searching and how big is a sub compared to, let's say, a container sizes piece of wreckage.
The item is 75 feet long. But in 4 days it could very well have sunk. Even if it did not sink the radius. in 4 days is massive. I am surr the airbrefuelling planes will be on site soon and new sat imagry is onthe way.
If there are/were pieces of the wing there, there will be many smaller pieces of debris.HTML:
The item is 75 feet long. But in 4 days it could very well have sunk. Even if it did not sink the radius. in 4 days is massive. I am surr the airbrefuelling planes will be on site soon and new sat imagry is onthe way.
and a full size sub is how long?The item is 75 feet long. But in 4 days it could very well have sunk. Even if it did not sink the radius. in 4 days is massive. I am surr the airbrefuelling planes will be on site soon and new sat imagry is onthe way.
