Porn star Christy Mackk tells tale/posts photos of beating by ex bf/MMA fighter

[AdamH]

There had been lesser acts of violence towards her in the past, so, while I think the guy is scum and should be in jail, she also chose to stay with scum. So she is not blameless.

Actually she is.. Staying with some guy after he beats you doesn't mean you're inviting him to continue to beat you.. It means you love him.. Love is fucked up and fucked up people love in fucked up ways..

This is retarded and the exact problem that thousands (if not hundreds of thousands or even millions) of abused women face all the time.. "What did you do to deserve it" "Why didn't you leave, you must have known it was coming?" "You should have known better". Fuck all that.. She may not be an "innocent" but she didn't invite this shit upon herself.. She didn't ask for this.. She didn't deserve it..

 

[Terminator2000]

i wager 100 bucks these two people will be back together within a year.

chris brown and rhianna got back together after a very similar incident.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Why are there multiple people here who are obsessed with the fact that she's not the innocent damsel in distress?

Who gives a flying fuck?

Of course she's not.. She was a porn star who was dating some hot headed freak and you think you should be surprised (or judge her differently) because she likely had "baggage"?

Give your heads a shake... This isn't about who she is or what she said or did to the guy.. It's about the fact that a woman got beat so hard she ended up with 18 broken bones around her eye, broke her nose in 2 places, broke some of her teeth, outright knocked other teeth out.. In what world does ANYBODY give a shit what this girl did or said prior to getting this beat down?? In what world does anybody think this shit is relevant??

You're right.

It IS irrelevant.

I think some people are arguing that she deserves no sympathy even though he is guilty of committing a crime. Not quite the same as blaming her or the victim (although it may sound like that, but in one case or so, it sure sounds like they are blaming her).

 

[GPIDEAL]

Actually she is.. Staying with some guy after he beats you doesn't mean you're inviting him to continue to beat you.. It means you love him.. Love is fucked up and fucked up people love in fucked up ways..

This is retarded and the exact problem that thousands (if not hundreds of thousands or even millions) of abused women face all the time.. "What did you do to deserve it" "Why didn't you leave, you must have known it was coming?" "You should have known better". Fuck all that.. She may not be an "innocent" but she didn't invite this shit upon herself.. She didn't ask for this.. She didn't deserve it..

I'll agree with you here too (and I can't believe what nottyboi said).

 

[AdamH]

i wager 100 bucks these two people will be back together within a year.

chris brown and rhianna got back together after a very similar incident.

Giving a woman a black eye and breaking 18 bones in her face (20 if you include her nose) aren't "very similar".. Neither are excusable, if that's what you mean..

Having said that I do think Rihanna is a moron and kinda owes an apology to every single woman who ever went back to her abusive boyfriend because they believed he "really meant it" when he said he'd never do it again.. She basically just reinforced to all those women that you CAN (and maybe SHOULD) go back to those dickless abusive assholes..

 

[Smallcock]

Yeah, that's victim blaming.. "She had it coming" didn't she...

She wasn't blameless just like a person who gets burned playing with fire contributes to their own fate. It is certainly a far cry from a woman being beaten by somebody with no history of violence.

She did have it coming - from a mile away - and to say that doesn't mean WM should not be punished. Just because the world is filled with idiots like Mack doesn't mean we can allow people like WM to brutalize them with impunity. The punishment should always fit the crime, and being manipulative dumb bitch isn't a crime worthy of a black and blue beatdown.

On a lighter note, when WM is finally released he will have a fresh new flock of Mack-types ready to take her place for punishment, knowing everything that has gone on thus far. We can sympathize with them just like we can with Mack, but it is a very limited sympathy. To put Mack on the same level as women who are beaten without provocation is to cheapen them and their experience.

 

[AdamH]

She wasn't blameless just like a person who gets burned playing with fire contributes to their own fate. It is certainly a far cry from a woman being beaten by somebody with no history of violence.

She did have it coming - from a mile away - and to say that doesn't mean WM should not be punished. Just because the world is filled with idiots like Mack doesn't mean we can allow people like WM to brutalize them with impunity.

When WM is finally released he will have a fresh new flock of Mack-types ready to take her place for punishment. We can sympathize with them just like we can with Mack, but it is a very limited sympathy.

lol... This is exactly my point.. You're not different than the guy who laid the smack on her.. And it's 'cause you don't fucking get it.. You think some women DESERVE the beatings they get.. I'm telling you that they just fucking don't.. Some women deserved to be walked away from, some women deserve to have the cops called on them, some deserve to be restrained until you can get away, some deserve to have all of their friends and family know about what a cheating whore they've been.. Not a single one deserves to be beat down..

 

[Ms.FemmeFatale]

I am going to go out on a limb here and say that is not what smallcock means when he said she had it coming.

I think what he is saying is that if you stand in the middle of the 401 for long enough, you are going to get hit by a car. There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it. You will get hit by a car. If you date a man like WM with his past violent record, you are going to get beat. Not rightly so, just that is the reality of what will happen. It doesn't mean she deserve it. The "had it coming" comment is really a hard one to judge in text as it can have multiple meanings.

Please tell me I am right here because it really does sound the way that AdamH is concluding. I am trying a new technique of listening and reading here on TERB, so here is hoping it will pay off.

 

[AdamH]

I am going to go out on a limb here and say that is not what smallcock means when he said she had it coming.

I think what he is say is that if you stand in the middle of the 401 for long enough, you are going to get hit by a car. There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it. You will get hit by a car. If you date a man like WM with his past violent record, you are going to get beat. Not rightly so, just that is the reality of what will happen.

Please tell me I am right here because it really does sound the way that AdamH is concluding.

Should other people be surprised that she was the victim of abuse? No.. Should anybody tell her that she kinda brought this on herself by (ostensibly) loving the guy? Absolutely not! The blame is his alone.. He didn't have to do what he did, but he CHOSE to do it.. Period.

No matter what she did, or choices she made, the final choice for him to hit her was made by him alone..

 

[GPIDEAL]

I am going to go out on a limb here and say that is not what smallcock means when he said she had it coming.

I think what he is saying is that if you stand in the middle of the 401 for long enough, you are going to get hit by a car. There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it. You will get hit by a car. If you date a man like WM with his past violent record, you are going to get beat. Not rightly so, just that is the reality of what will happen. It doesn't mean she deserve it. The "had it coming" comment is really a hard one to judge in text as it can have multiple meanings.

Please tell me I am right here because it really does sound the way that AdamH is concluding. I am trying a new technique of listening and reading here on TERB, so here is hoping it will pay off.

You could be right, yes. I'm still not definitively sure.

"Had it coming" may not be the politically-correct expression in this case.

 

[Ms.FemmeFatale]

Should other people be surprised that she was the victim of abuse? No.. Should anybody tell her that she kinda brought this on herself by (ostensibly) loving the guy? Absolutely not! The blame is his alone.. He didn't have to do what he did, but he CHOSE to do it.. Period.

No matter what she did, or choices she made, the final choice for him to hit her was made by him alone..

Sweetie, I don't disagree. Not at all. I am just trying to help bring context if I can.

One thing I would disagree with is talking to her about her choices. I am not saying telling her brought it on herself of course. I am saying we all make mistakes. We all make the wrong choice sometimes and it leads us down a path that we end up having no control over. She had no control over his choice. Talking about these things helps victims see that a) you can love people without them in your life which will help get victims away from abusers and b) help victims to understand that while they did not deserve what happened to them, then can learn to make choices that help them stay in control over their lives so that hopefully things like this will not happen again.

I have been abused, I have learned these. These helped me to not be abused anymore.

 

[mandrill]

This is what Nuprin001 had brought up.. I don't know why you're sending me info about War Machine.

Sorry. My snide comment is hereby retracted.

 

[mandrill]

Maybe the legal eagles here can shed some light on this. In the country I grew up in, the criminal system had special very strict rules for assault committed by trained fighters (at the time boxers), something like any assault by a boxer would be considered assault with a deadly weapon.

Are there similar rules in Camnada and/or the US?

Don't believe so. But that fact would clearly exacerbate the sentence. Evidently, neither victim was even remotely able to defend him / herself and the incident essentially involved the torture of two helpless vics.

I am waiting for Aardvark to show up and tell us whether the "3 strike rule" applies here. IIRC, this is a rule that says a 3rd felony conviction in the state of California and you do life.

 

[Serpent]

Don't believe so. But that fact would clearly exacerbate the sentence. Evidently, neither victim was even remotely able to defend him / herself and the incident essentially involved the torture of two helpless vics.

I am waiting for Aardvark to show up and tell us whether the "3 strike rule" applies here. IIRC, this is a rule that says a 3rd felony conviction in the state of California and you do life.

3 strikes is peculiar to California. It's not there even across the all of USA. In some ways, it is unjust to put away someone for 25yrs (that's life) for minor felonies but that's another discussion whether it is an effective deterrent.

 

[Serpent]

She wasn't blameless just like a person who gets burned playing with fire contributes to their own fate. It is certainly a far cry from a woman being beaten by somebody with no history of violence.

She did have it coming - from a mile away - and to say that doesn't mean WM should not be punished. Just because the world is filled with idiots like Mack doesn't mean we can allow people like WM to brutalize them with impunity. The punishment should always fit the crime, and being manipulative dumb bitch isn't a crime worthy of a black and blue beatdown.

On a lighter note, when WM is finally released he will have a fresh new flock of Mack-types ready to take her place for punishment, knowing everything that has gone on thus far. We can sympathize with them just like we can with Mack, but it is a very limited sympathy. To put Mack on the same level as women who are beaten without provocation is to cheapen them and their experience.

You know dude, you're FUCKING RIGHT.

Y'all ever heard of Joran Van Der Sloot?

Joran Andreas Petrus van der Sloot (Dutch pronunciation: [ˈjɔːrɑn vɑn dεr ˈsloːt]; born August 6, 1987) is a Dutch citizen and convicted murderer.[1] He pleaded guilty in Peru to the murder and robbery of Stephany Tatiana Flores Ramírez, who was killed in Lima on May 30, 2010.[9][10]

Five years earlier, while living in Aruba, Van der Sloot had been the primary suspect in the disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, who disappeared in Aruba on May 30, 2005, exactly five years before Flores' murder. Van der Sloot was indicted by a federal grand jury in the United States for wire fraud and extortion related to Holloway's whereabouts.[17] Holloway's disappearance remains unsolved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joran_van_der_Sloot


Now one would think this Prince Charming would be radioactive to all the enlightened, smart, liberated women? Well, not all of them. He's going to marry his pregnant 22 year old Peruvian girlfriend.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...an-der-sloot-father-married-article-1.1792776

Then you have Tavon White, the convict who impregnates 4 prison guards: http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...cde8a6-b33f-11e2-9a98-4be1688d7d84_story.html

All in all: when you have women raised in a culture where they think "nice" is weak and FUCKED UP is strong, you will have more of these Mack-War Machine episodes. It's very sad because there will be more Macks and no incentive for guys like WM to get help while fucked up chicks throw themselves at guys like this.

So what you said in your first post rings so true: never wife chicks who are fucked up.

 

[Serpent]

am posting this for those who 100% believe that she asked for this or has fault in this, or lead WM on, etc

Nobody but WM's fault. Nobody led him on either. A "good guy" would have walked away from this train wreck a long time ago. Like someone said up the thread, that's the "good person" response. But Mack would not be with a good guy, they would most likely reject each other like oil and water.

But people who love drama, the thrill of excitement of being with a "King" or a "Bad Bitch", partner up with the first bad boy/girl who comes along, well, they do set up their karmic fate to end poorly.

Let God sort 'em out till the justice system has to step in. Thank God there's no children here who would grow up to be serial killers or wife beaters or fucked up chicks in their own right.

 

[danmand]

If nobody else wants to post it, I will. Anybody who watches MMA fighting is a bit sick in the head.

 

[buttercup]

1.) There is not ever an excuse to hit a woman.
2.) Some women (and I'm not saying that's what happened here) push it on purpose, knowing #1.

I agree no man should ever beat a woman no matter if it was provoked.

What's so special about women?

You sound as if you condone hitting or beating a man. Or at least, you can imagine a situation where you might condone hitting or beating a man, but you can't imagine any situation where you might condone hitting or beating a woman.

Hey -- hitting someone is a crime, and beating them even more so, whatever their sex, whatever the provocation.

Or perhaps, your code says you mustn't hit or beat someone smaller and weaker than yourself, even if they provoke you. Is that it? In your code, it's OK to hit and beat a man, provided he's bigger and stronger than you are?

Do your absurd morals apply to children too?

 

[Aardvark154]

Don't believe so. But that fact would clearly exacerbate the sentence. Evidently, neither victim was even remotely able to defend him / herself and the incident essentially involved the torture of two helpless vics.

I am waiting for Aardvark to show up and tell us whether the "3 strike rule" applies here. IIRC, this is a rule that says a 3rd felony conviction in the state of California and you do life.

Surprisingly the answer in California appears to be no it does not. At present assault even Domestic Violence Assault or Aggravated Assault does not count as a strike in California unless a firearm was used.

For a felony to count for a strike in California it must be classified as either a Serious Felony or Violent Felony see California Penal Code § 667.5 (c) for a list of such offenses. http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/667.5.html

 

[Aardvark154]

Maybe the legal eagles here can shed some light on this. In the country I grew up in, the criminal system had special very strict rules for assault committed by trained fighters (at the time boxers), something like any assault by a boxer would be considered assault with a deadly weapon.

Are there similar rules in Canada and/or the US?

As Oagre has posted it certainly would be a factor to be considered at sentencing. Further in jurisdictions which have a crime of Aggravated Assault it certainly would be a factor going towards changing a simple assault to an aggravated assault, not only the damage inflicted on the victim but also that the defendant had training in the martial arts, boxing, unarmed combat etc. . . .