Religious Idiots Against The New Sex Ed. Curriculum

[Bud Plug]

Yes. I was using the word opinion because that is what you chose to use.

The state has values that are enshrined in law and those values say that homosexuals amongst others deserve full legal equality. Therefore the schools should be reinforcing those values, not pretending gays don't exist.

You're still conflating the concept of "equality under the law" with the concept of personal/religious opinions about what is "right" or "normal".

Let's cut to the heart of the matter. Gay activist groups don't want same sex relationships "taught" in school just to let kids know that such relationships exist (kids know already, from TV if from no other source), and that the law recognizes such relationships, and that persons in such relationships are entitled to equal treatment under the law and freedom from harassment. They also want children to be taught that such relationships are "normal" and "right", and that homosexuality bears no moral or personal stigma. If I was gay, that's certainly what I would want.

Many people do not see homosexuality as "normal". Other people (usually on religious grounds) don't see homosexuality as "right". Both groups are entitled to their opinions, and so are those people of the opposite view. But it's this latter debate that should not be staged in the schools, and it's particularly wrong that only one point of view would be presented, as teachers still do occupy a position of authority with at least some of the children being taught.

 

[AK-47]

Because many children are already sexually aware at 8 years old, you ignorant buffoon

Not every kid matures sexually at that age, you dumb fuck

 

[AK-47]

Sweet. Lets stop educating and hope that not too many kill themselves.

Do you really think some guy who just got dumped by his HS girlfriend will not post his revenge-porn online because he had sex-ed in grade 5??

Do you know how easy it is to set up a hidden camera using just an iPhone and tape your sex session??

 

[destillat]

Not every kid matures sexually at that age, you dumb fuck

Did I say that asshole?
I said that many children are ALREADY SEXUALLY AWARE at that age... and believe it or not, YOUR kids might be in that pool as well.
Get your pathetic head out of your ass, for the sake of your kids.

 

[destillat]

Do you really think some guy who just got dumped by his HS girlfriend will not post his revenge-porn online because he had sex-ed in grade 5??

Do you know how easy it is to set up a hidden camera using just an iPhone and tape your sex session??

But that girlfriend just might be smart enough after that sex-ed in grade 5 to not let the revenge-porn ever come into existence.

 

[AK-47]

Did I say that asshole?
I said that many children are ALREADY SEXUALLY AWARE at that age... and believe it or not, YOUR kids might be in that pool as well.
Get your pathetic head out of your ass, for the sake of your kids

Take a chillax bro, you sound like a very emotional Libtard

But that girlfriend just might be smart enough after that sex-ed in grade 5 to not let the revenge-porn ever come into existence

And you really think some dude wont take a sextape with his iPhone in the corner of the room without her knowledge is gonna stop that??

If you wanna have sex nowadays, you have to do it under the sheets where there's no hidden cameras. Just ask many Hollywood actresses

 

[destillat]

Take a chillax bro, you sound like a very emotional Libtard


And you really think some dude wont take a sextape with his iPhone in the corner of the room without her knowledge is gonna stop that??

If you wanna have sex nowadays, you have to do it under the sheets where there's no hidden cameras. Just ask many Hollywood actresses

Yeah, I didn't think you'd have a rational answer... you know kids are sexually aware at very young ages nowadays, you are just too ignorant to publicly admit it.

Maaaannnnn... you are stupid... with education comes knowledge, and with knowledge comes power... if the chick is educated, she just MIGHT be smart enough to avoid being secretly recorded. Maybe not, but also MAYBE. Fuck you're stupid.

 

[AK-47]

Maaaannnnn... you are stupid... with education comes knowledge, and with knowledge comes power... if the chick is educated, she just MIGHT be smart enough to avoid being secretly recorded. Maybe not, but also MAYBE. Fuck you're stupid

Okay, and how exactly would a chick be smart enough to avoid being secretly recorded???

 

[destillat]

Okay, and how exactly would a chick be smart enough to avoid being secretly recorded???

Wow... you really are thick.
How about by first of all, BEING AWARE that people do that.
You think people are born with that knowledge? And with parents like you, God help us all.

 

[AK-47]

Wow... you really are thick.
How about by first of all, BEING AWARE that people do that

Okay, I'll play along. And I'll try to be nice and patient.

How exactly would a chick know she was being secretly recorded???

 

[destillat]

Okay, I'll play along. And I'll try to be nice and patient.

How exactly would a chick know she was being secretly recorded???

Fuck, what is wrong with you?

Many young people are naive... naive means you aren't aware of what people are capable of. Being educated helps someone transition from being naive to being aware and educated.
A naive person might say: "OK, I'll get naked in this strangers basement".
A non-naive person might say: "Fuck no, I'm not going to get naked in this strangers basement".

Fuck you are stupid and ignorant, and I really feel sorry for your offspring.

 

[AK-47]

Fuck, what is wrong with you?

Many young people are naive... naive means you aren't aware of what people are capable of. Being educated helps someone transition from being naive to being aware and educated.
A naive person might say: "OK, I'll get naked in this strangers basement".
A non-naive person might say: "Fuck no, I'm not going to get naked in this strangers basement"

Okay, but what if that basement didnt belong to a stranger, what if it was her boyfriend's, which is probably most of these porn revenge-cases?? Then what??

Also, the fact you're getting mad and starting name-calling means you're starting to lose your shit, along with your argument(s). Whatever they were

 

[destillat]

Okay, but what if that basement's didnt belong to a stranger, what if it was her boyfriend's, which is probably most of these revenge-cases?? Then what??

Then maybe she'll be educated enough to have the smarts to sense that something bad is going on... and maybe she won't.
But she most definitely won't if she is kept in a state of ignorance.

 

[AK-47]

Then maybe she'll be educated enough to have the smarts to sense that something bad is going on... and maybe she won't

So you're saying a proper sex-ed education will prevent an angry ex-boyfriend from placing his iPhone in a hidden position among the pillows where she has no clue, and will prevent a revenge-porn video to be placed on the internet???

Is that what you're saying???

 

[basketcase]

You're still conflating the concept of "equality under the law" with the concept of personal/religious opinions about what is "right" or "normal". ....

Personally I don't give a shit what you think is "normal". Homosexuality has protected status under the Charter. You can tell your kids whatever you want to at home but state run organizations are bound to uphold and reinforce the charter.

 

[basketcase]

Take a chillax bro, you sound like a very emotional Libtard


And you really think some dude wont take a sextape with his iPhone in the corner of the room without her knowledge is gonna stop that??

If you wanna have sex nowadays, you have to do it under the sheets where there's no hidden cameras. Just ask many Hollywood actresses

As typical of the protesters, you try to warp what the sex-ed program is about. If girls (or guys) know that sending naked pics of themselves can have bad repercussions they are less likely to do it.

 

[basketcase]

...which is probably...

Glad to see you back up the arguments with facts.

 

[AK-47]

Glad to see you back up the arguments with facts

Sorry, I meant to conflate "probably" with 99% of most porn-revenge cases.

Glad we got that straighten out

 

[Bud Plug]

Personally I don't give a shit what you think is "normal". Homosexuality has protected status under the Charter. You can tell your kids whatever you want to at home but state run organizations are bound to uphold and reinforce the charter.

And I suppose I should care no more about what you think is normal. And that's why the discussion has no place in the school. We fundamentally disagree about the role of the state as "thought police". You're pretty determined not to acknowledge or respond to the distinctions I've raised, so there's nowhere to go with our discussion. The main difference between us is that I'm prepared to allow you your private views, but you won't be happy until all schoolchildren are "taught" to share yours. Oddly, that sort of behaviour is normally associated with social conservatives. Maybe they shouldn't wear that rep after all.

Edit. I went to see the Imitation Game tonight. It is of course, about Alan Turing, the gay math professor who spearheaded breaking the German enigma machine code. The movie goes out of its way to make the point that Turing was not a normal man (it is the central theme of the movie, and the relevant lines about "normalcy" are repeated at least 3 times at different points in the film), and that a normal man would never have achieved what he did. Interesting juxtaposition with the discussion here.

 

[AK-47]

And I suppose I should care no more about what you think is normal. And that's why the discussion has no place in the school. We fundamentally disagree about the role of the state as "thought police"

Exactly, but what really is the proper moral thought police??