Sunshine List
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True but you forgot the four other guys making 90K who have to watch the guy making 80K water the plants.
If that is the case then why is his job title listed as "Elementary Teacher"?
Likely because the union sends the money to the school board, who pass it through. His cheque may still come from the school board physically, for Admin purposes, but all reimbursed by the Union. So no cost to taxpayer.
This sunshine list is so bullshit it is not even funny...how are you going to have the same sunshine list and not adjust it for inflation from inception. Might as well then post all the public sector salaries and call it what you want...
Is it true that police and fire can retire on full pension at age 45? Police make lots of extra money for "paid duty" and fire can make extra money by holding a second job. I know a firefighter who works 3 24 hour days (I think they sleep at the station) and is then off duty for the rest of the two weeks.
Firefighters work 7 or 8 24-hr shifts a month, with six hours where they MUST sleep. This schedule is why fireman can hold second jobs (one guy in my hometown drives aroudn with the fireman's crest on the license plate of his work truck!). I'm less certain about police, their schedules are much more regimented and its much harder to hold a second job. For what it's worth, I believe police are less over-paid than firemen but still remain a massive drag on taxpayers. Firemen wages and their union's tactics are criminal, police less so. It's only a matter of time before jail guards and ambulance responders salaries climb in a similar fashion because both unions have now adopting similar policies.
My ex-wife's father got on the government gravy train, using a false diploma. I'm not sure HOW he did it.. but he was listed with a Master's degree from some fancy Canadian University, McGill, or something like that, and got a Human resources job with the province of Ontario. His real education was about grade 8 level.
He retired a few years ago with a fat pension.
He retired a few years ago with a fat pension.
The average individual income in Canada as of 2010 is $27,600. ($70,000 for families) Only 10-15% of Canadians make above $80,000. (Big percentage are public employees) and the super rich people the lucky 1% are making $191,000 or more
Paid duty....paid by the private sector...is overtime...and not pensionable so should be taken out of the equation.
police are with OMERS pension ....like fire...of course they can retire at any age with a reduced pension. However to avoid being penalized. The must hit 30 years or age 50.
^^^ fmahovalich is right with this, I have many friends in both LE and with the FD and have been schooled on their pensions and shifts.
As far as FD shifts go, the FD adopted the 24 hour shift and they work the same number of hours as they did before. The guys I know work more than 3 days and if they have two weeks off, then they're using a holiday week to do so. As far as sleeping goes, they don't get much from what I'm told, as they run calls through the night, the hazards of a business that goes 24/7, but as it was explained to me, the FD, like the PD, both work 24 hours a day 7 days a week and the FD would have to hire more guys in order to cover a 24 hour period for the 365 days a year. That's why there are more police than fire guys. So being able to get some sleep actually saves the city money.
This sunshine list is great, but it's outdated. There are some on it that can make one shake their head and if you know anyone who is a city employee, they are not shy pointing out some of their own on this list and how those people got on this list. Sometimes not everyone on the list is deserving of the salaries they get, they overtime they put in for or the associated bonuses paid out.
As far as FD shifts go, the FD adopted the 24 hour shift and they work the same number of hours as they did before. The guys I know work more than 3 days and if they have two weeks off, then they're using a holiday week to do so. As far as sleeping goes, they don't get much from what I'm told, as they run calls through the night, the hazards of a business that goes 24/7, but as it was explained to me, the FD, like the PD, both work 24 hours a day 7 days a week and the FD would have to hire more guys in order to cover a 24 hour period for the 365 days a year. That's why there are more police than fire guys. So being able to get some sleep actually saves the city money.
This sunshine list is great, but it's outdated. There are some on it that can make one shake their head and if you know anyone who is a city employee, they are not shy pointing out some of their own on this list and how those people got on this list. Sometimes not everyone on the list is deserving of the salaries they get, they overtime they put in for or the associated bonuses paid out.
Agree. I have a friend who works at Hydro One. He was making 70K in the private sector and was pretty damn happy with that. He then got a job at Hydro One and started at $116K...he's making $131K now.
Is Hydro One the one being privatized? If yes, no more Sunshine List salary disclosures.
Yes, you are correct. This was the first year Hydro One employees were not included in the list.
Sorry, but this rationalization of firemen shifts/wages sounds like its from their union's hymn book. They are overpaid and underworked. And their union has manipulated the provincial arbitration system in order to achieve it.
If it's an employee and the employer pays the salary, it's on the list. Whatever local arrangements the employer may have to get the money reimbursed from the union doesn't make a difference for disclosure purposes.
I'm sure you will feel different when your house is on fire and your family is trapped inside! And most of you are quite misinformed....
FFs can't retire at 45 with full pension, you need 30 years or reach an 85 factor to retire without penalty. Firefighters put a large amount from each pay cheque to fund their pension, it's not just given to them
Yes FFs work 24 hr shifts ( not all depts do). And no, there is no mandatory 6 hour sleep period! Don't be fucking ridiculous.studies have shown better recovery time from working thes shifts instead of working 4 - 14 hour night shifts in a row
If you couldn't tell, I'm a firefighter, I'm at work right now, 17 hours into my shift, and I closed my eyes for all of about 15 minutes so far... Fought 2 car fires, a townhouse fire that threatened to light up the rest of the complex, been to a car accident, several medical calls, plus did some training, and I have 7 hours left. Did I do enough to earn my wage?
With the 24 hour shifts, we do get a number of days off, but there are other stretches of the schedule where I'll work 72 hours over the course of 5 days, it's not as easy as you think.
Next time there's a house fire or I have to cut a car apart to free some child while their decapitated parents are in the remains of what was the front seat, I'll give you a call and see how you handle it you ungrateful puke!
I would never suggest firefighting/firefighters is not honourable work. What I'm telling you is that you're overpaid and under-worked, whatever your description of your current shift is (thanks for the laugh though, do you really believe that if you've done everything you've described, you'd have time to surf an escort review board?).
Your union has also successfully manipulated the provincial arbitration process, leveraging higher salaries without regard to the local govt's ability to pay.
Finally, many sectors of our society perform honourable work. Few, however, feel the constant need to tell us about it. It gets tiring, which is why I used the term "hymn book" in my previous post.
