Dimanno - Police culture needs changing.....

Phil C. McNasty

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Scarey

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In the majority of every Movie, TV show, Music Video etc the gangster lifestyle is always represented as a cool thing that is made out to be very attractive. Subsequently, in the same genre's the police are always made out to crooked or bumbling idiots.OUR culture needs changing..........
 

NorthernBear

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well if only it were so simple. Most people break the law daily in minor ways. Also, most people on this board are lawbreakers according to C36. So then, as a lawbreaker what other useless solutions do you have to offer us?
That is true but some of us take responsibility for our actions and if we break the law we an expect punishment if we get caught.
We do not always blame the cops or the system like the punks out there nowadays or as I have noticed on several threads, a lot of TERB members.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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well if only it were so simple
Well, it is kinda simple, if you dont break so many (major laws), you wont have so many issues in your life.

No offense or anything, but going on your post history you sound like either a pimp or a drug dealer.

Either way, you're gonna have to think whether most police issues in your life are just coincidence, or whether its karma coming back at you in real life.

Think about it
 

nottyboi

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Well, it is kinda simple, if you dont break so many (major laws), you wont have so many issues in your life.

No offense or anything, but going on your post history you sound like either a pimp or a drug dealer.

Either way, you're gonna have to think whether most police issues in your life are just coincidence, or whether its karma coming back at you in real life.

Think about it
Don't be ridiculous, I have not even had a traffic ticket in years. Yet I have had some negative interactions with officers who behaved like assholes. Just plain rude and nasty. Its kinda funny telling people not to break the law on a board dedicated to an activity that has been made essentially illegal. I would consider being busted under C36 to be VERY MAJOR. As such I have chosen to abide by the law, if anything, to avoid any interactions with police.
 

nottyboi

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That is true but some of us take responsibility for our actions and if we break the law we an expect punishment if we get caught.
We do not always blame the cops or the system like the punks out there nowadays or as I have noticed on several threads, a lot of TERB members.
So you would plead guilty and not defend yourself? And BTW its not just enforcing the law. I have no problem with that. Its when police BREAK THE LAW. That and what happens after is what I am most concerned with . Enforcing the law is their job. Breaking the law or obstructing due process is inexcusable for an officer IMHO.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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So you would plead guilty and not defend yourself? And BTW its not just enforcing the law. I have no problem with that. Its when police BREAK THE LAW. That and what happens after is what I am most concerned with . Enforcing the law is their job. Breaking the law or obstructing due process is inexcusable for an officer IMHO
You see, you sound really mad right now.

Even after Bill C36 passed, I still haven't had any problems with police officers. So what am I doing right??
 

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Changing thug culture is the job of the police, not to become like thugs.
Yes, it's the job of the cops to change thug culture. Just like it's their job to go to a house when someone calls because their 16 year old kid is being an ass and won't listen, and its the cops job to fix 16 years of crappy parenting right then and there. And its also the cops job to go to domestic disputes and immediately unravel 20 years of a crappy relationship and make everything better right then and there. And its their job to deal with a person with mental health issues and fix them right then and there, even though their own family won't or can't intervene. Yup, forget individual responsibility, it's the cops fault. I've seen a number of studies that identify the break down of socio-economic factors and family cohesiveness that lead to gangs and thug culture, but none because it's the failed responsibility of the cops to change it. People need to look for their own responsibilities, and quit trying to blame others for their failures.
 

dirkd101

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Rosie is an ass-hat and anything she says is to be ignored.

That being said, this boils down to the cost of public service. When times were good and there were many good paying private sector jobs, the number and salaries of those in the public service jobs wasn't much of an issue. Today this is an issue, with the private sector jobs not on the same level they were 30 years ago, the public sector needs to rethink numbers and possibly turning some over to the private sector. The police budget is the biggest draw on most municipalities, wages being their largest take, it's not surprising that there is a movement afoot that wants to trim this budget down. While the everyday cost has gone up with the wages, office supplies, gas, parts, etc., the everyday needs of a force, the only place to trim is the workforce itself. This isn't just in policing, but all facets of municipal public service.

The politicians don't trim, they take the easy way out and look to all departments within the city and identify the low hanging fruit. All departments heads, the Chief being one, are purposely picked as "Yes Men", when hired. The main question being, are you willing to do what it takes to trim your budget? His ideas aren't new, so they aren't outside the box. It's just an emergency plan that has been adjusted to everyday policing, to make a budget cut work.

It's not just the police that are going to feel the pinch going forward. All departments within the city will feel the squeeze at some point in the future and all union heads will be trying to protect their fiefdom. It's the changing face of a poor economy.
 
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