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Harvey Weinstein the serial sexual harasser.

Ceiling Cat

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Not to diminish the claims of the unwilling victims, but how many that have com forward and how many others that will come forward are there to re kindle their stale careers with an extra 15 minutes of fame? How many are looking for a big payday when their careers have fizzled out? I am sure there are a few among the injured victims that bent over lifted their skirts and spread they ass cheeks for Harvey.
 

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Entourage's take on Harvey W.
 

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The perception whether deserved or not, is that the courts are ineffective. Could be that's there's too much money in the system or some other reason.
Well, sounds like there are a few potential cases of sexual assault where HW actually grabbed them by the pussy and many more cases of a gross, pushy guy with no game trying to pressure young women into sucking his dick. The latter is not against the law.
 

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The guy is worth hundreds of millions of dollars, he can have all he can eat. Yet he goes after freebies.
 

mandrill

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oagre, at the risk of high-jacking this thread, this will explain much.

No. I will not watch a film school dweeb in a Batman tee-shirt rant for 10 minutes about plot device failures in a movie made about comic book characters.

Please lmk if there is a point in the video where he talks about Will Smith forcing himself on Margot Robbie and I will watch only that part of it.
 

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The torches are lit, the rope is tied, the lynch mob is marching. No matter what, HW will never get a fair hearing in any venue. Neither will anyone else facing similar accusations. Real or malicious. A step in a right direction this is not. On the other hand, it's a good theater to see all them male feminists squirming under the avalanche of the daily revelations. Will make a great movie, someday. Produced by the Weinstein Company, written by Woody Allen, directed by Roman Polanski and starring one of the Afflecks or some other starlet diddler.
Well, Ghomeshi certainly got a fair trial. So Weinstein probably would as well. But he ain't making any more movies in the foreseeable future. And Woody Allen hasn't directed anything worth seeing since Manhattan. And Roman Polanski skipped the USA when his plea deal for ass-raping a 13 year old went south when the plea judge went rogue and threatened to jump the joint for probation and can RoPo's ass for a pen stretch.

And Affleck is too politically correct to ever make the type of movie you want to see.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Well, sounds like there are a few potential cases of sexual assault where HW actually grabbed them by the pussy and many more cases of a gross, pushy guy with no game trying to pressure young women into sucking his dick. The latter is not against the law
You ever heard of the term "sexual coercion"?? It is indeed a crime.
This is why I sometimes wonder if you're really a lawyer like you claim you are:

http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/sexual-assault-overview.html

Proving Sexual Assault Charges

In general, sexual assault is involuntary sexual contact that occurs through the actor's use of force, coercion or the victim's incapacitation
 

Phil C. McNasty

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https://www.bustle.com/articles/67926-is-it-rape-if-you-say-yes-5-types-of-sexual-coercion-explained

In recent years, there's been a lot of media discussion regarding rape culture, the boundaries of consent, and “no means no” — so why is no one talking about sexual coercion? With California's recent adoption of the nation's first Yes Means Yes law — which asserts that the absence of the word "no" does not constitute sexual consent — we seem to finally be grasping the reasons why a person might not be able to say "no" to sex, even though they want to. But what about people who say "yes" to sex under duress? Why aren't we educating people about the times when "yes" might not actually mean "yes"?

Sexual coercion is when tactics like pressure, trickery, or emotional force are used to get someone to agree to sex. It can be as as simple as encouraging someone to have a few too many drinks, or it can hide inside threats like "I'll leave you if you don't sleep with me." But no matter what form it takes, sexual coercion isn't just "a part of life" — it’s manipulative at best, and at worst, it’s abuse
 

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From what I understand the casting couch has long been a thing.

HW's name had been attached to this type of behavior in the past.

All those actresses have managers and lawyers. Pretty sure they consulted them before saying a thing.

If the "rumours" are true that HW would have the actress brought to a hotel room by a female assistant.... assistant leaves.... HW does his thing.... male assistant checks on the girl..... gifts flown in for the girl.

There's huge implications IF that is true..... it means people knew what was going on.

I find it funny that all the celebs are denouncing HW BUT I bet a few of them knew for a fact what was going on.

He'll get his day in court but what is working for him is that these things are tough to prove after the fact. I mean did anyone save any evidence?

The fact that he's talking about getting help suggests he admits to some sort of wrong doing.
 

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Celebs don't need to sleep their way to the top. This is absurd!

I believe Madonna is indeed still a virgin.

This fucker Stevie got caught with hands in the cookie jar and it ain't sweet.

 

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Tippi Hedren is letting everyone know that this isn't new in Hollywood, saying Hitchcock was guilty of making unwanted advances etc, and explains that it is nothing new, either in Hollywood or any other field of human endeavour.
If Hitch was slobbering all over Tippi Hedren, he got what he deserved. That's a big IF, Hedren couldn't act. Neither can her daughter Melanie Griffith or her grand-daughter Dakota Johnson. Marnie was Hitch's first box-office bomb in almost 20 years, wooden Hedren was the worst miscasting of any film. The only other film that compares to it is Born 4th of July with Superhetero Man.

It's hard to know whom to believe. Angelina Jolie, bat shit crazy as she is, is believable. She's never made a complete ass of herself through lying and double standard.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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I believe this shit goes on in the modeling and beauty pageant worlds as well
 

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I believe this shit goes on in the modeling and beauty pageant worlds as well
A friend of mine in the UK told me that 2 rich brothers owned the Miss Britain or Miss UK pageant, and the rule was that at the end of the evening one got a BJ from #3 and the other from #5.
 

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Lauren Southern explains how it was able to happen for so long.

 

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A friend of mine in the UK told me that 2 rich brothers owned the Miss Britain or Miss UK pageant, and the rule was that at the end of the evening one got a BJ from #3 and the other from #5.
Sorry, but women who decide to try to move up the ladder in Tinseltown or aspire to reach the top of National or International Beauty contest should not be surprised when asked to use one or more of their orifices to grease a few palms. Those systems are set up for sleaze and abuse. No women should have to tolerate the abuse but none should be so naive as to be total oblivious to the risks and then decide to talk after the shit has hit the fan and it is safe to talk, if they have advanced their careers in this manner. The system is rigged. Many women it would appear enabled Weinstein.
 

mandrill

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It's very sad to hear how prolific this predatory behaviour is, but it's really not surprising. I don't really tell people this because it makes me feel stupid and ashamed, but my first experience with actual sex was rape when I was 18. I was at a house party with a bunch of 23 year old guys that were my friend's bf's friends and one of them followed me around all night trying to get me alone. My friend's sister was a big drinker and kept egging me on to drink more and more, and wouldn't let up. It got to the point where I was secretly putting water in my drinks just so people stopped bothering me and thought I was drinking enough with them. This guy was still following me around and everyone else was getting tired and wanting to call it a night. I went to bed and the house had multiple rooms, the room I got had 2 beds with sheets set out and I told him he could sleep over there and I was going to sleep over here. He didn't listen and thought it'd be fun to tackle and wrestle me on the bed and said make him sleep over there etc. I was so drunk and so tired I didn't have much energy to fight back and he just kept on top of me playing around until he decided he wanted to kiss me. I told him to stop please and that I was a virgin and I didn't want to do anything, he kept laughing and saying that's ok and kept going. I said no a few more times and he kept laughing and taking my clothes off and was pinning me down. I was tired and out of it and didn't know what to do so I just laid there and waited until he got off of me. I don't think he really finished as he was so drunk, but he finally stopped and went to bed. The next day he had run around the whole house and told everyone I slept with him. I came downstairs hung over and completely wrecked, my best friend was upset and shocked that I "would do that" and said she didn't believe him at first. Everyone was now disappointed IN ME that I let this happen and I was too ashamed to speak up and say actually he raped me. I actually denied it to myself for years that it was actually rape because I thought I had to fight someone off instead of just saying no for it to count as rape. The worst part was his friends freaking me out later that weekend that since he sleeps with everyone he might have given me an STD.... I went and got checked out of course and didn't have anything, but his other friend liked me but was really concerned I'd give him something if he dated me. Even after I was clean the second guy was still concerned I was dirty some how cuz his friend was with me first. I didn't tell anyone what really happened as for years I just thought it was my fault and didn't want to deal with it. It is incredibly fucked up what happens to women around predatory men, especially when they are young. The person I am now would never let that happen, but when I was very young, inexperienced, scared, naive and trying to be "cool" hanging out with older people I was in a situation where I was pressured and pushed to do things I didn't want to do. This is one reason I don't drink any alcohol and would never with clients, just to always protect myself and make sure that isn't a factor in making it easier for me to be preyed upon. Anyway I hope no one gets upset about sharing my story, I've just really been touched and saddened with all the stories coming out this week.

My heart really goes out to women who are sexually assaulted and raped, almost all of us have one story or another where it happened to us or a close friend. Guys make a lot of jokes about it and assume all women are exaggerating or lying just for fame, or wonder why they would speak out years later instead of right away. I know personally how uncomfortable and shameful it is to think it's your fault something happened to you and that if you talk about it you'll just get blamed or dismissed. We often feel isolated and alone, like we were the only stupid person that let this happen, or worse yet that we were "asking for it" by what we were wearing, by drinking around men, by laughing and flirting with someone etc. That saying no doesn't really mean no if you're dressed a certain way, and drinking and seem like you're having fun. Take someone like Harvey where everyone around him knows and thinks this is normal, and you can imagine how every young naive actress he came across also felt confused, isolated and ashamed of what happened and was very scared to be the only one saying something. Now many of these actresses have credibility and established careers, but back then I wonder would anyone really have listened or believe them?
Thanks you for sharing this. It must have been very difficult to write.

Guys often overlook the female perspective on the sort of behaviour exhibited by Weinstein.
 
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