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Harvey Weinstein the serial sexual harasser.

Smallcock

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Thanks you for sharing this. It must have been very difficult to write.

Guys often overlook the female perspective on the sort of behaviour exhibited by Weinstein.
Alcohol lowers our inhibitions and we openly express what we're all about. For young guys, the default is sex and aggression. For girls, it's submission. These two played their drunken roles as expected. Who knows, the dude was probably so drunk he doesn't remember the incident at all or thought he was dreaming, while she, in her tired drunken state, can recall every last detail.

I honestly don't see relevant parallels with what Harvey did on the casting couch. It doesn't like drugs or alcohol were a factor.
 

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Alcohol lowers our inhibitions and we openly express what we're all about. For young guys, the default is sex and aggression. For girls, it's submission. These two played their drunken roles as expected. Who knows, the dude was probably so drunk he doesn't remember the incident at all or thought he was dreaming, while she, in her tired drunken state, can recall every last detail.

I honestly don't see relevant parallels with what Harvey did on the casting couch. It doesn't like drugs or alcohol were a factor.
You just had to dismiss Charlotte's experience didn't you.
Being her first time, and traumatic as well, of course she remembers it vividly. We all remember the first one.
The guy knew what he was doing too. He bragged about it the next day to everyone.
There is a parallel to Weinstein and it's not drugs or alcohol. It's entitlement.
 

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You just had to dismiss Charlotte's experience didn't you.
Being her first time, and traumatic as well, of course she remembers it vividly. We all remember the first one.
The guy knew what he was doing too. He bragged about it the next day to everyone.
There is a parallel to Weinstein and it's not drugs or alcohol. It's entitlement.
"We all remember the first ones" when we're drunk and tired? Not necessarily.

Was he right to pressure her? No. Do we know his mental state and whether he was pissed drunk? No. Let's not speculate. What we do know is that young guys are horny and adding alcohol to the mix can lead to regretful behaviour.

This was some drunk college kid trying to get his dick wet. A far cry from a sober top dog millionaire Hollywood elite.

Having a different opinion with regard to context and perspective is not "dismissing" someone else's experience.
 
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Insidious Von

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Again, its whom to believe.

Rose McGowan hasn't been doing much lately. In her prime she was the penultimate party girl, including a torrid relationship with Marylin Manson. While some of the accusations are legit, RM may be looking to jump start her career again.

Hollywood at it's finest.

 

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Alcohol lowers our inhibitions and we openly express what we're all about. For young guys, the default is sex and aggression. For girls, it's submission. These two played their drunken roles as expected. Who knows, the dude was probably so drunk he doesn't remember the incident at all or thought he was dreaming, while she, in her tired drunken state, can recall every last detail.

I honestly don't see relevant parallels with what Harvey did on the casting couch. It doesn't like drugs or alcohol were a factor.
Are you saying that after a few drinks the real person comes out? That Charlotte actually wanted it?

I see a few parallels.... both guys did this more than once. both didn't take no for an answer.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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A friend of mine in the UK told me that 2 rich brothers owned the Miss Britain or Miss UK pageant, and the rule was that at the end of the evening one got a BJ from #3 and the other from #5
I believe it happens a lot in the cable TV world also. Wanna become a TV anchor or weather girl, you're gonna have to put out with the big boss. When's the last time you saw an ugly anchor or weather girl?? (okay, not counting Harold Hosein......LOL)

 

Insidious Von

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Charlotte, holy shit, that's a difficult vent. Obviously he didn't finish. From the description given he was probably the type of stronzato that would have left you to clean up if he did.

I worked in the entertainment industry providing transport and security for celebrities for most of the 80's. Not all of them were visiting royalty without crowns like Placido Domingo and Jean Beliveau. Some of them were assholes of the most inflammatory kind.
 

Insidious Von

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Around Y2K, Angelina Jolie and Rose McGowan were competing for the same roles. AJ may be batshit crazy but she never showed up on set intoxicated.

 

Insidious Von

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IMHO the Weinstein scandal is will become a gentle headwind, for Hollywood, compared to the hurricane that will happen if the fate of Jet Travolta should ever get out.
 

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In this world there are many example of do what you have to do to get noticed, to get ahead. You almost see it on a daily basis. I am sure Harvey victimized many of these ladies and many were unwilling. I suspect the vast majority had some idea of what was expected of them. Why is it that there were no official complaints in the past.

I saw a documentary of the Hollywood scene going back to the 1940s. A guy that spent over 60 years at one Hollywood studio told about the things going on there. He was hired in 1943 at 14 years old because many men were drafted to fight in the war. His first job was posting lesser parts on the bulletin boards in the commissary.
He was offered sex and money from the unknown women actresses for advanced information on the better parts. He was even offered sex and money from the mothers of child stars. He told of what studio executives called the 4:00 O'clock girls. That is when the execs would go cruise the commissary for willing female stars to come up to their office for drinks. I think the Hollywood casting couch was alive until very recently.

 

Insidious Von

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LMAO, look at the big grin on Stern's face. Maggie Lane is amazing, not an easy aria to sing.

Grazie Gatto Incollato.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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IMHO the Weinstein scandal is will become a gentle headwind, for Hollywood, compared to the hurricane that will happen if the fate of Jet Travolta should ever get out
And whats that??
 

Insidious Von

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Jet Travolta died under mysterious circumstances, he was conveniently cremated before they returned to the US. They were vacationing in Bermuda when Jet Travolta died. My hunch is that his Scientology "guardians" denied him his epilepsy medication. Nothing new Isaac Hayes went off his heart medication.

And I shouldn't confuse my good friend Ceiling Cat, there's no direct translation for incollato.

This is the closest description:

 
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