Man appears in Oshawa court after mom, teenage son and daughter killed

[explorerzip]

Hard to fathom how someone can kill someone else let alone his own family.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...fter-mom-teenage-son-and-daughter-killed.html

 

[oil&gas]

Not his family. The killer wasn't the father of the kids killed.
A more appropriate title of the news report could be
something like 'Mom and her two teenage kids killed
by boy toy boyfriend'.

 

[explorerzip]

Not his family. The killer wasn't the father of the kids killed.
A more appropriate title of the news report could be
something like 'Mom and her two teenage kids killed
by boy toy boyfriend'.

You don't have to be biological parents to be part of a family.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

3 dead people, so he's looking at 3×20 years = 60 years in prison

 

[Ref]

3 dead people, so he's looking at 3×20 years = 60 years in prison

Unfortunately this is not the USA where they actually hand out legitimate sentences.

 

[explorerzip]

Unfortunately this is not the USA where they actually hand out legitimate sentences.

"Not criminally responsible" seems to be a recurring theme in this country.

 

[apoptygma]

3 dead people, so he's looking at 3×20 years = 60 years in prison

LOL. More McFacts.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

LOL. More McFacts

You know that Harper changed the law so that multiple murders can result in consecutive sentences, dont you??

http://nationalpost.com/news/politi...that-harper-announces-new-tough-on-crime-bill

 

[Allwomen247]

Saw one picture of the guy posing at the gym with the mum

He looked like a jacked up loser

Roid rage definitely was a factor

Not blaming the victim but people (especially women) need to be more choosey and selective about who they date. That “bad boy” novelty gets tired real quick

Cheers

 

[K Douglas]

You know that Harper changed the law so that multiple murders can result in consecutive sentences, dont you??

http://nationalpost.com/news/politi...that-harper-announces-new-tough-on-crime-bill

I wasn't aware of this. Well done Harper. Has a judge done this yet I wonder?

 

[rafterman]

I wasn't aware of this. Well done Harper. Has a judge done this yet I wonder?

Dillard and Smich among others

 

[GameBoy27]

Saw one picture of the guy posing at the gym with the mum

He looked like a jacked up loser

Roid rage definitely was a factor

Not blaming the victim but people (especially women) need to be more choosey and selective about who they date. That “bad boy” novelty gets tired real quick

Cheers

Right... Message to women: Don't date someone who might kill you and your family.

I feel for the remaining daughter. I can't imagine how hard it is for the Victoria, the one remaining daughter. Heartbreaking.

RIP

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

I wasn't aware of this. Well done Harper. Has a judge done this yet I wonder?

A bunch of times. There is Smich/Dellard like previous poster mentioned.

This guy: https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...ear-from-victims-family-in-court-hearing.html

And this piece of work decided to kill a small child, drink her blood and eat her heart: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/new...tzky-guilty-of-triple-murder/article35485376/

 

[apoptygma]

You know that Harper changed the law so that multiple murders can result in consecutive sentences, dont you??

http://nationalpost.com/news/politi...that-harper-announces-new-tough-on-crime-bill

From the FIRST line of your post: "The move could be purely symbolic, and even dangerous, critics say, as there are few who offenders would be ever be affected by the change"

There is no way in hell a guy who is charged with second degree murder is going to get consecutive sentences.

Try again.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

There is no way in hell a guy who is charged with second degree murder is going to get consecutive sentences.

Try again

Wrong again. It has already happened in Canada.

Travis Baumgartner, an armoured car guard who shot and killed three colleagues during a robbery in Edmonton, has been sentenced to life in prison with no parole for 40 years. He was originally charged with one count of first-degree murder and two counts of second-degree murder.

Link: https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/baumg...ears-harshest-punishment-in-decades-1.1449611

So as usual, you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about

 

[apoptygma]

Wrong again. It has already happened in Canada.

Travis Baumgartner, an armoured car guard who shot and killed three colleagues during a robbery in Edmonton, has been sentenced to life in prison with no parole for 40 years. He was originally charged with one count of first-degree murder and two counts of second-degree murder.

Link: https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/baumg...ears-harshest-punishment-in-decades-1.1449611

So as usual, you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about

What's that? Do I see 'first degree murder' in the link you posted, AND in your own words?
Read that again, slowly. First. Degree. Murder. For your information, that means he had intent to kill someone. I know you don't care, but to a Judge, intent means a lot.
I'll repeat myself... a guy who has been charged with second degree murder has no chance of getting consecutive sentences.

Try again Mr. Burns.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

What's that? Do I see 'first degree murder' in the link you posted, AND in your own words?
Read that again, slowly. First. Degree. Murder. For your information, that means he had intent to kill someone

And did you conveniently miss the two 2nd degree murder charges (and subsequent convictions)??

Read that again, slowly. Second. Degree. Murder. Two of them.
You can only get maximum 25 years in prison for the 1st degree murder charge, so where did the other 15 to 20 years come from??

I'll let you think about that, genius :wave:

 

[apoptygma]

And did you conveniently miss the two 2nd degree murder charges (and subsequent convictions)??

Read that again, slowly. Second. Degree. Murder. Two of them.
You can only get maximum 25 years in prison for the 1st degree murder charge, so where did the other 15 to 20 years come from??

I'll let you think about that, genius :wave:

You must have missed your meds today. He got consecutive sentencing BECAUSE of the first degree murder conviction... it was premeditated and planned... something that is interestingly absent from the case being discussed.
I'll say it again, you probably dropped your reading glasses in the toilet again... there is no way that someone convicted of 2nd degree murder is going to get consecutive sentences.

I think it's time for your pre-dinner nap, Mr. Burns.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

You must have missed your meds today. He got consecutive sentencing BECAUSE of the first degree murder conviction... it was premeditated and planned... something that is interestingly absent from the case being discussed

Show me in Canadian law where it says you must have a 1st degree murder conviction before consecutive sentences for additional murders can be handed out. Or show me where it says you cannot receive consecutive sentences for second degree murder

I'll say it again, you probably dropped your reading glasses in the toilet again... there is no way that someone convicted of 2nd degree murder is going to get consecutive sentences.

I think it's time for your pre-dinner nap, Mr. Burns

You always have to make a debate personal. This why nobody likes you and you're the most hated guy on Terb

 

[apoptygma]

Show me in Canadian law where it says you must have a 1st degree murder conviction before consecutive sentences for additional murders can be handed out. Or show me where it says you cannot receive consecutive sentences for second degree murder


You always have to make a debate personal. This why nobody likes you and you're the most hated guy on Terb

Show me where someone with ONLY second degree murder charges got consecutive sentencing.

Dude, you make this personal all the time. Don't even bother with that accusation.

I'm the most hated guy on Terb? Really? Wow... that's quite an accomplishment in 3 months hey? If that truly is the case, then I'm quite proud of myself. Are you proud of me? I hope so! I really do!