Do you regret getting married or having children

[Euro Male]

I have a loving and respectful marriage. Unfortunately, my wife started suffering from mild depression after her mother passed away. And as such, she’s virtually lost interest in sex. She’s not interested in counselling, and I don’t want to seem insensitive, so I don’t want to fight about it with her or make it a huge issue. I’ve always been faithful to her throughout dating and marriage, but my physical needs were no longer being taken cared of. That’s why I started hobbying.

It’s been a fantastic experience. I’ve met so many wonderful women in this hobby, who have made me happy and satisfied when I’m with them. And at the end of the day, I’m able to come home to a stable and loving home. Sure, it’s my secret that I keep to myself, but if everyone is happy, and no one gets hurt, then I am able to rationalize what I’m doing without feeling too guilty.

With respect to my children, they have brought me the purest and most fulfilling happiness that I have ever felt. Sure, they can be trying at times, but at the end of the day, they complete me and make me immensely proud. I’m way too young to have grandkids, but I look forward to he day when we will have them running around the house.

Yes, you have to learn to be happy with yourself, but at the end of the day, no one wants to be alone. Just don’t settle for the sake of settling. Find someone who will love and respect you, and who you can see yourself raising a family with.

Good luck, friend.

You sound like you're in a Real good place, I'm genuinely happy for you brother!

To me, you're a throwback, a man's man!

Stay on point, you can truly have it all . . . . . . caring, loving wife-family + skanks, side-piece's, sugar-babes, strippers, spa-girls, shemales on the sly.

If you've got the giant gonads . . . . . . . quench your 'thirst' outside the home, take care of business inside the home (love & protect), you'll be greeted by your loved ones like a conquering hero!

 

[Smallcock]

Your wife stopped having sex with you and you are cheating on her with escorts and you think that your marriage is
loving and respectful?WOW

The definitions of "loving" and "respectful" have changed a lot, apparently haha.

 

[|2 /-\ | /|/]

This is powerful bro and much respect to you.

Some of these shallow fucks can’t understand that marriage especially long tern commitment is not about sex. In their shallow minds they can’t comprehend a relationship without sex. Sometimes one of the partners develops a condition, or a mental thing that makes them not want to have sex anymore, however everything else is happy and the marriage works and the kids are happy. So you have your physical needs and are getting it tamed through this industry and nothing wrong with that. You provide the love and support for your family, they are happy, you are happy, and thats it, you don’t need to prove anything to anyone. Remember everyone lies and the ones who say they don’t are quite openly deluding everyone and lying to your and their own face. Relationship are always figureoutable provided both are willing to work at it and work past the flaws.

Don’t allow these shallow fucks from terb to get to you. They are losers who can’t keep a relationship and have failed at every single relationship they had and now they see you happy and are trying to project their failure and misery onto you and they start judging. They don’t know how to make and keep a woman happy and never will. They are like brainwashed robots always allowing the pop culture to define them to think for them and they consistently seek validation from their flock. They have no clue what a relationship means but feel the need to put others down who see it differently because it the threatens their identity.

I have a loving and respectful marriage. Unfortunately, my wife started suffering from mild depression after her mother passed away. And as such, she’s virtually lost interest in sex. She’s not interested in counselling, and I don’t want to seem insensitive, so I don’t want to fight about it with her or make it a huge issue. I’ve always been faithful to her throughout dating and marriage, but my physical needs were no longer being taken cared of. That’s why I started hobbying.

It’s been a fantastic experience. I’ve met so many wonderful women in this hobby, who have made me happy and satisfied when I’m with them. And at the end of the day, I’m able to come home to a stable and loving home. Sure, it’s my secret that I keep to myself, but if everyone is happy, and no one gets hurt, then I am able to rationalize what I’m doing without feeling too guilty.

With respect to my children, they have brought me the purest and most fulfilling happiness that I have ever felt. Sure, they can be trying at times, but at the end of the day, they complete me and make me immensely proud. I’m way too young to have grandkids, but I look forward to he day when we will have them running around the house.

Yes, you have to learn to be happy with yourself, but at the end of the day, no one wants to be alone. Just don’t settle for the sake of settling. Find someone who will love and respect you, and who you can see yourself raising a family with.

Good luck, friend.

 

[|2 /-\ | /|/]

Your wife stopped having sex with you and you are cheating on her with escorts and you think that your marriage is
loving and respectful?WOW

^^^
What a fucking loser.

 

[Ginomore]

^^^
What a fucking loser.

There’s no need for insults-I’m sure his wife would not consider their marriage loving and respectful if she knew he was seeing escorts.However if she does know and she is ok with it then it’s a different story.

 

[G.D. Gentleman]

This is powerful bro and much respect to you.

Some of these shallow fucks can’t understand that marriage especially long tern commitment is not about sex. In their shallow minds they can’t comprehend a relationship without sex. Sometimes one of the partners develops a condition, or a mental thing that makes them not want to have sex anymore, however everything else is happy and the marriage works and the kids are happy. So you have your physical needs and are getting it tamed through this industry and nothing wrong with that. You provide the love and support for your family, they are happy, you are happy, and thats it, you don’t need to prove anything to anyone. Remember everyone lies and the ones who say they don’t are quite openly deluding everyone and lying to your and their own face. Relationship are always figureoutable provided both are willing to work at it and work past the flaws.

Don’t allow these shallow fucks from terb to get to you. They are losers who can’t keep a relationship and have failed at every single relationship they had and now they see you happy and are trying to project their failure and misery onto you and they start judging. They don’t know how to make and keep a woman happy and never will. They are like brainwashed robots always allowing the pop culture to define them to think for them and they consistently seek validation from their flock. They have no clue what a relationship means but feel the need to put others down who see it differently because it the threatens their identity.

Interesting points and I agree, some of the best long standing marriages I know of older friends have stopped the sex many years ago and the gent either doesn't long for it anymore or hobby's like we do (and a few have asked me for guidance once they figured out that I knew a thing or two about it, lol).

Troubling part I see is how many of my male friends over the last 20-25 years had to experience a wife who stopped the sex....then they got 'caught' with a mistress, escort, etc - and the wife initiated the divorce (no attempt to 'figureoutable' as you call it) and then 'shame' her family, and his own, now apply to the gent.

The world we live in is fucked up and gets more fucked up as each year goes by...just wanted to share this perspective for discussion.

 

[|2 /-\ | /|/]

If this industry was legal it would be a different story. In a sensible marriage given these conditions this would be a viable option for a partner who is not getting the physical sex aspect but still believes in the marriage. The same should apply if the guy is not into sex and female partner still has needs. AFAIK I heard this happening with Asian ladies while the husband is in the other room. Although some partners are not mature enough to handle this open type of marriage which is a huge factor to consider. Such as you could be opening the pandoras box with the truth and she could not be able to handle it.

Now why does this happen that you mention below where when the woman who stops giving sex initiates divorce when she finds out. Could be a number of reasons such as:
- She needs an excuse to end the marriage and blame it on the other party and this is part of her exit strategy
- She can’t see how much pain it can cause her partner but the guy still needs it even after years of fighting the pain of a sexless marriage/rejection with no or minimal intimacy. She can’t see past her self and needs. She can’t see that guy is just trying to survive the constant urge of his primal instinct for sex and intimacy but guy still believes in marriage. She has always put herself and her needs first and doesn’t even see her partners needs. In this second scenario the guy has a choice. Save the marriage and keep this other life a secret or reveal the truth and risk getting into this situation you described. This is provided he has tried over the years to make it work to see if the urge for sex and/or intimacy will go away or if the sex/intimacy will improve but nothing has changed for the better in this area and it has gotten worse with sex/intimacy but in other areas the family is happy . On the surface it appears as deceitful but deep down it feels like the right thing to do especially when the kids are happy and the wife seems happy if you take the sex/intimacy out of the equation.

Why they do this? Probably a psychologist could answer better. I don’t think it’s intentional, I think its a natural in the box response conditioned through our culture. Although sometimes it is intentional.

In my mind I don’t see it as cheating if I pay for sex and if I am not looking for an exit strategy once the next best available one comes along. I believe in figuring it out and making it work. In my case it feels like she doesn’t see my side and how much its fucking me up with the sexless/little intimacy part. My principles tells me make it work. Figure it out and figure what needs to be done to make the marriage work and keep everyone happy. My best solution is keep this industry a secret and deal with it if you get caught or if she finds out. I know it will fuck her up once she finds out. So you do what it takes to make it work by accurately foreseeing the consequences. I tried talking to her about why its not happening, how to make it better but after like 8 years of trying it’s always the same I am tired, working a lot, always some excuse, so I need to be always ready for that once a month or once every 2 months before her irregular period when she is feeling horny to be available for her needs lol

In my scenario it seems like both partners are not willing to make it work and keep it figureoutable. This is why I can’t say with confidence my marriage will last. I just want to keep trying to figure it out and maybe it will last. Maybe the kids will grow enough where they will become independent then it won’t matter if we start exploring the open marriage option or other options.

But I agree the world is getting more and more complicated.

Interesting points and I agree, some of the best long standing marriages I know of older friends have stopped the sex many years ago and the gent either doesn't long for it anymore or hobby's like we do (and a few have asked me for guidance once they figured out that I knew a thing or two about it, lol).

Troubling part I see is how many of my male friends over the last 20-25 years had to experience a wife who stopped the sex....then they got 'caught' with a mistress, escort, etc - and the wife initiated the divorce (no attempt to 'figureoutable' as you call it) and then 'shame' her family, and his own, now apply to the gent.

The world we live in is fucked up and gets more fucked up as each year goes by...just wanted to share this perspective for discussion.

 

[Euro Male]

Some of these shallow fucks can’t understand that marriage especially long tern commitment is not about sex. In their shallow minds they can’t comprehend a relationship without sex. Sometimes one of the partners develops a condition, or a mental thing that makes them not want to have sex anymore, however everything else is happy and the marriage works and the kids are happy. So you have your physical needs and are getting it tamed through this industry and nothing wrong with that. You provide the love and support for your family, they are happy, you are happy, and thats it

Dude, you're a stud! :thumb:

 

[Perry Mason]

But I agree the world is getting more and more complicated.

The problem is not that the world is getting more and more complicated. That is unavoidable.

The problem is that we don't know how to deal with complexity. We still look for simple solutions. One size fits all. "Keep it simple, stupid."

And that only makes a complex problem more complex and intractable. :sad:

Perry

 

[G.D. Gentleman]

The problem is not that the world is getting more and more complicated. That is unavoidable.

The problem is that we don't know how to deal with complexity. We still look for simple solutions. One size fits all. "Keep it simple, stupid."

And that only makes a complex problem more complex and intractable. :sad:

Perry

What are you thoughts then, if I may ask, on choosing to live a life as a single gent (never married, no children and almost a decade since my last traditional full on committed relationship of any kind) and enjoying it, every dam day typically....am I avoiding complexity and staying true to a simple solution, or has the KISS approach simply worked for me?

 

[Perry Mason]

What are you thoughts then, if I may ask...

I have no clue because I have never experienced it...

What I can tell you is that you miss a huge part of what makes my life truly satisfying: children and, especially, grandchildren.

Also, marriage has its cycles of ups and downs. How much and how long of each varies and is unique to each couple.

But when it's up (pun intended!), there is nothing else in the world like making love with a woman that is totally into you, and you into her... (pun intended!)

And when it's low, that when I hobby. :yo:

Perry

 

[Charlemagne]

I'm not married and I don't have kids. I'm still in my early 30's though. But I don't want any of it.

 

[The Oracle]

She didn't fall in love with him. That's Hollywood romance stuff that isn't real. He simply had more to offer her than you did. A woman wants stability, compensation for sex, and a life with more resources, and chooses a mate accordingly.

Women aren't romantic. Men are.

I call that the BBD theory.

The Bigger Better Deal. When that comes along you are on borrowed time.

I learned that one a long time ago.

 

[coolmorrisguy]

I am finalizing my divorce as I write this. I will tell you this: If you as a man have not figured out how to be happy on your own, a wife and children will NEVER EVER make you happy. This is what I learned. Put the oxygen mask on uourself, develop youself, cherish value and reward yourself.

You are the sons of great warrior men who hunted in the tall grass all day long under the freezing rain, tracking prey, bloody, tired, hungry and cold. But you looked to your left and looked to your right and saw your brethren, mist coming from their mouths under the freezing morning sun.

Find your manhood. A woman can’t do that neither can offspring. They are not the destination just pit stops along the journey.

Most males lead meaningless, worthless, defeated lives. They are walking cadavers stuffed with rotten filthy broken dreams and hopes. So to justify their existence they marry and pop out a few offspring because they think this justifies who they are. Guess what? Cock roaches have kids too.

Find your spear brethren, lock shields, fight in the shade of the falling rain of Persian Arrows!

This is not an anti-women or children post. Forget WHAT WOULD JESUS DO. Ask What Would Genghis Khan Do? Would he ever cry he wasn’t married or had kids??!

 

[superstar_88]

This should be put to music and made into a song.

 

[coolmorrisguy]

This should be put to music and made into a song.

Word Nigga! :}

 

[jackal2006]

A friend of mine who does well in financial services told me a disturbing trend is many men in their 50s and 60s are facing financial hardships or ruin
because they are getting divorced and cleaned out by the women.

The more I live in this city the more I realize that the pool of good women to wife up and have children with is ever shrinking. I know some Muslim guys that fucked a lot of Canadian civilians but when it came time to marry and start a family they married in their tribes and arranged the marriages. I'd hazard a guess that love marriages like in the west are now risky because there is no love just a business calculation on the side of women in this city definitely.

I'm not against marriage or having children but I am against getting used and cleaned out.

I've come to the realization that if to have children I have to be with a bad woman who will be a parasite I'll ask my parents for forgiveness for not extending the family bloodline. But. I work too hard for my things for some pussy that will likely go stale after five years of me plowing it.

 

[coolmorrisguy]

A friend of mine who does well in financial services told me a disturbing trend is many men in their 50s and 60s are facing financial hardships or ruin
because they are getting divorced and cleaned out by the women.

The more I live in this city the more I realize that the pool of good women to wife up and have children with is ever shrinking. I know some Muslim guys that fucked a lot of Canadian civilians but when it came time to marry and start a family they married in their tribes and arranged the marriages. I'd hazard a guess that love marriages like in the west are now risky because there is no love just a business calculation on the side of women in this city definitely.

I'm not against marriage or having children but I am against getting used and cleaned out.

I've come to the realization that if to have children I have to be with a bad woman who will be a parasite I'll ask my parents for forgiveness for not extending the family bloodline. But. I work too hard for my things for some pussy that will likely go stale after five years of me plowing it.

Well for beginners, women are not just pussy for you to plow. If that's your understanding of marriage and purpose for women, don't do it. Fact is, the biggest reason why marriages end are people change. We are not static, fixed creatures. As age, experiences, and other issues catch up with people, humans change.

Women by nature have a hypergamous nature: They are pre-programmed to be uncontent and look for the better thing. Your great grandmother and mine stayed in miserable relationships because they had no economic mobility. They were stuck and they knew it. Now they don't have to sit there and take it.

But don't blame women. Men stopped being men. Most men are bunch of cry-baby, pussies who have done nothing to develop themselves. I am guilty of this. I was married a fit, lean active guy. Then I became lazy, obese and let myself go. Why? Because I got too comfortable. I lost my focus. So men are quick to blame the women, but really need to look at themselves. Most men are weak little bitch ass pussies. Why would women stay with them? If you are a high value, dominant Alfa, you won't be able to kick women away from you. IF you kick them from the door they will come back from the window.

As for your Moslem example: Not legit. Those Moslem girls are raised to be obedient little slaves. If you're idea of a good marriage is marrying an illiterate slave go for it. BTW, hypergamy is hypergamy. A buddy of mine and I spent time in Turkey for work. We fucked more Hijab girls than I ever did in any other nation in the west. And they drank and fucked just as good as any western lady walking champ Elysee or Covent Garden. So be careful about the mail order order brides.

 

[bazokajoe]

Well for beginners, women are not just pussy for you to plow. If that's your understanding of marriage and purpose for women, don't do it. Fact is, the biggest reason why marriages end are people change. We are not static, fixed creatures. As age, experiences, and other issues catch up with people, humans change.

Women by nature have a hypergamous nature: They are pre-programmed to be uncontent and look for the better thing. Your great grandmother and mine stayed in miserable relationships because they had no economic mobility. They were stuck and they knew it. Now they don't have to sit there and take it.

But don't blame women. Men stopped being men. Most men are bunch of cry-baby, pussies who have done nothing to develop themselves. I am guilty of this. I was married a fit, lean active guy. Then I became lazy, obese and let myself go. Why? Because I got too comfortable. I lost my focus. So men are quick to blame the women, but really need to look at themselves. Most men are weak little bitch ass pussies. Why would women stay with them? If you are a high value, dominant Alfa, you won't be able to kick women away from you. IF you kick them from the door they will come back from the window.

As for your Moslem example: Not legit. Those Moslem girls are raised to be obedient little slaves. If you're idea of a good marriage is marrying an illiterate slave go for it. BTW, hypergamy is hypergamy. A buddy of mine and I spent time in Turkey for work. We fucked more Hijab girls than I ever did in any other nation in the west. And they drank and fucked just as good as any western lady walking champ Elysee or Covent Garden. So be careful about the mail order order brides.

I wouldn't agree with your theory on men.How many women do you know once they get the ring and have as many kids as they want let themselves go.They don't care because they know they have a guaranteed paycheck for many years to come.
I would blame the legal system for one sided divorce settlements. Women want to be treated as equals except when it comes to divorce.Personally I believe the divorce rules need to change.Assets should be divided equally based on what is accumulated after marriage. If either one has let's say substantial assets before the marriage,why should they lose it all,or most of it, once married.This is what is keeping me from ever getting married.No way am I going to give away 55 years of savings and assets just for a few years with a women.
Been told by many guys and legal professionals,a Prenup isn't worth the paper it's printed on.It's more of tool to try a deter a messy drawn out and costly divorce.

 

[coolmorrisguy]

I wouldn't agree with your theory on men.How many women do you know once they get the ring and have as many kids as they want let themselves go.They don't care because they know they have a guaranteed paycheck for many years to come.
I would blame the legal system for one sided divorce settlements. Women want to be treated as equals except when it comes to divorce.Personally I believe the divorce rules need to change.Assets should be divided equally based on what is accumulated after marriage. If either one has let's say substantial assets before the marriage,why should they lose it all,or most of it, once married.This is what is keeping me from ever getting married.No way am I going to give away 55 years of savings and assets just for a few years with a women.

Have you noticed how there are some men who are married, their wives are immaculate....like perfect. Because the guy is a successful Alpha. LIke these women are afraid to lose him and will do everything to keep him happy and not even because he asks or wants...because they don't want to lose a good thing. Have you noticed when a woman wants you, you can't chase her away, but if she is not into you there is nothing you can say or do to get her?

In the African Savannah, the female lioness does 99% of the work. The male is there for that 1% of the time when the pack of hyenas show up. The females will do all the work and tolerate a lazy ass male lion just for that 1% when they need a male lion to come out to face the hyenas dangling his testicles in the air.