Trudeau bans assault rifle

[Frankfooter]

Once again you guys dont actually read anything, you simply spout off your opinions without any backup

In addition to the online questionnaire and in-person roundtables, Public Safety called for written submissions from a wide range of stakeholders. Submissions came in a variety of formats, including position/research papers, briefing notes/memos and emails. Overall, 36 submissions were received from invited stakeholders representing a diversity of groups/organizations, sectors and perspectives which are identified in the chart below:

Stakeholders.
It wasn't a poll, it was an online 'stakeholder' survey that was clearly flooded by NRA type bots.
If it was a legit poll it wouldn't be the total opposite of what every real poll has found.

 

[HEYHEY]

Stakeholders.
It wasn't a poll, it was an online 'stakeholder' survey that was clearly flooded by NRA type bots.
If it was a legit poll it wouldn't be the total opposite of what every real poll has found.

So a poll that agrees with your view is real and anything that doesnt is fake?

Can you post some links to these "real" posts you speak of ? Or is this all in your head ?

 

[Frankfooter]

So a poll that agrees with your view is real and anything that doesnt is fake?

That's not a poll of the population, its a survey of 'stakeholders' who specifically are involved in the issue.
Like the NRA and its bots.

 

[HEYHEY]

That's not a poll of the population, its a survey of 'stakeholders' who specifically are involved in the issue.
Like the NRA and its bots.

Where do you see NRA ? Are you capable of reading at all?
133,000 surveys, as well as "36 submissions were received from invited stakeholders representing a diversity of groups/organizations, sectors and perspectives which are identified in the chart below"

 

[Frankfooter]

Where do you see NRA ? Are you capable of reading at all?
133,000 surveys, as well as "36 submissions were received from invited stakeholders representing a diversity of groups/organizations, sectors and perspectives which are identified in the chart below"

The NRA has been working on Canada for 2 decades.
The National Rifle Association, a powerful lobbying group in the United States that advocates fewer gun controls, has been actively involved in trying to abolish Canada's long-gun registry for more than a decade, CBC News has learned.

Documents and correspondence obtained by the CBC show the NRA has provided logistical and tactical support to organizations such as the Canadian Institute for Legislative Action (CILA), established in 1998 to lobby Ottawa to shut down the registry.

The NRA provides the Canadian gun lobby group with "tremendous amounts of logistical support," and while the NRA's constitution prevents them from providing money, "they freely give us anything else," Tony Bernardo, an Ontario gun advocate and CILA's executive director, said in Canadian Firearms Digest in July 2001.

The NRA has been known to use bots to flood twitter and social media, its not a stretch think they would flood a Canadian 'survey'.
And unless you can find polls that aren't 80% for more controls on weapons, as the latest ones are, then your 'survey' clearly isn't accurate.

 

[basketcase]

Where do you see NRA ? Are you capable of reading at all?
133,000 surveys, as well as "36 submissions were received from invited stakeholders representing a diversity of groups/organizations, sectors and perspectives which are identified in the chart below"

Stakeholders are not representative of public opinion.

For example, a survey on prostitution sent to Johns, providers, agencies, and drivers would likely have a very different result than the general public.

 

[HEYHEY]

The NRA has been working on Canada for 2 decades.
The National Rifle Association, a powerful lobbying group in the United States that advocates fewer gun controls, has been actively involved in trying to abolish Canada's long-gun registry for more than a decade, CBC News has learned.

Documents and correspondence obtained by the CBC show the NRA has provided logistical and tactical support to organizations such as the Canadian Institute for Legislative Action (CILA), established in 1998 to lobby Ottawa to shut down the registry.

The NRA provides the Canadian gun lobby group with "tremendous amounts of logistical support," and while the NRA's constitution prevents them from providing money, "they freely give us anything else," Tony Bernardo, an Ontario gun advocate and CILA's executive director, said in Canadian Firearms Digest in July 2001.

The NRA has been known to use bots to flood twitter and social media, its not a stretch think they would flood a Canadian 'survey'.
And unless you can find polls that aren't 80% for more controls on weapons, as the latest ones are, then your 'survey' clearly isn't accurate.

Post the 80% surveys you speak of

 

[Frankfooter]

Post the 80% surveys you speak of

For assault weapons.

80% of Canadians back ban on 'assault-style' weapons: poll
The polling numbers come as the federal government moves to ban more than 1,500 weapons, including semiautomatic, large-magazine rifles used to shoot at a rapid fire.

The support level jumps to three-quarters (75%) when considering a ban on assault weapons.

 

[HEYHEY]

For the above,


The question asked was: "Would you support or oppose Canada having a complete ban on**civilian possession of Assault weapons"? It is obvious that 80% of more respondent would say YES beacuse they imagine "assault weapons" as some terrible machines for killing people on the battlefield. The problem is with the formulation of the question. There are NO ASSAULT WEAPONS IN CANADA IN CIVILIAN HANDS!

What would happen if, for instance, the polling question would be formulated like this: "Would you support or oppose having a complete ban on possession by Canadians self-loading hunting and sporting rifles"?

Second, the sample size of the Angus Reid poll you posted is 1 500 people vs 133,000 people polled all across Canada in the one I posted.

Which one do you think is a better representation of the average canadian ?

 

[bluecolt]

No . 30 round magazines ( not clips ) are not available . I can tell you're not a gun owner . The 25 round mags for a Ruger 10/22 rifle are not allowed now because those mags fit a hand gun which is only allowed to have 10 rounds plus 1 .

Never heard of the cops finding an AR-15 that was modified to shoot fully automatic . That's just not done . Bump stocks are illegal in Canada and so are suppressor kits . A box of 30 round mags hidden in a box . You watch too much TV .

Thank you for your post, John Henry. All of the dissenters, like nottiboy and his friends, are urban metrosexuals who know nothing about firearms, fishing and hunting. They spout total bull shit as I have noted previously when beaverboy claimed that Americans will be buying banned firearms from Canada. Thanks to their hero Obama and his ties to the UN, buying guns from out of the country is very difficult both in Canada and the U.S.

 

[danmand]

Thank you for your post, John Henry. All of the dissenters, like nottiboy and his friends, are urban metrosexuals who know nothing about firearms, fishing and hunting. They spout total bull shit as I have noted previously when beaverboy claimed that Americans will be buying banned firearms from Canada. Thanks to their hero Obama and his ties to the UN, buying guns from out of the country is very difficult both in Canada and the U.S.

That is what you think; but you are wrong. I live in the country and I have half a dozen guns and have expert shooting skills. I have never been called a metrosexual.

I fully support the Governments ban.

 

[bluecolt]

That is what you think; but you are wrong. I live in the country and I have half a dozen guns and have expert shooting skills. I have never been called a metrosexual.

I fully support the Governments ban.

You agree with the government's ban because you obviously do not own a handgun or an AR15. Hence, it is easy for you to support the ban.

I have read many of your posts.

 

[cunning linguist]

The NRA has been working on Canada for 2 decades.
The National Rifle Association, a powerful lobbying group in the United States that advocates fewer gun controls, has been actively involved in trying to abolish Canada's long-gun registry for more than a decade, CBC News has learned.

Documents and correspondence obtained by the CBC show the NRA has provided logistical and tactical support to organizations such as the Canadian Institute for Legislative Action (CILA), established in 1998 to lobby Ottawa to shut down the registry.

The NRA provides the Canadian gun lobby group with "tremendous amounts of logistical support," and while the NRA's constitution prevents them from providing money, "they freely give us anything else," Tony Bernardo, an Ontario gun advocate and CILA's executive director, said in Canadian Firearms Digest in July 2001.

The NRA has been known to use bots to flood twitter and social media, its not a stretch think they would flood a Canadian 'survey'.
And unless you can find polls that aren't 80% for more controls on weapons, as the latest ones are, then your 'survey' clearly isn't accurate.

Fake news.

 

[Frankfooter]

For the above,


The question asked was: "Would you support or oppose Canada having a complete ban on**civilian possession of Assault weapons"? It is obvious that 80% of more respondent would say YES beacuse they imagine "assault weapons" as some terrible machines for killing people on the battlefield. The problem is with the formulation of the question. There are NO ASSAULT WEAPONS IN CANADA IN CIVILIAN HANDS!

What would happen if, for instance, the polling question would be formulated like this: "Would you support or oppose having a complete ban on possession by Canadians self-loading hunting and sporting rifles"?

Second, the sample size of the Angus Reid poll you posted is 1 500 people vs 133,000 people polled all across Canada in the one I posted.

Which one do you think is a better representation of the average canadian ?

Polls are more accurate than an online survey that can be flooded by bots.

 

[danmand]

You agree with the government's ban because you obviously do not own a handgun or an AR15. Hence, it is easy for you to support the ban.

I have read many of your posts.

If you have access to government files on guns. then you are bound by confidentiality.

You actually have no idea what kind of guns I own. In any event why are you changing the subject. You claimed:

All of the dissenters, like nottiboy and his friends, are urban metrosexuals who know nothing about firearms, fishing and hunting.

Maybe you should retract that statement.

 

[shack]

Maybe you should retract that statement.

He sounds pretty homophobic.

 

[basketcase]

...
What would happen if, for instance, the polling question would be formulated like this: "Would you support or oppose having a complete ban on possession by Canadians self-loading hunting and sporting rifles"?...

Instead of complaining, why don't you suggest the gun lobby pay for that poll? I have a feeling they won't because they worry the poll wouldn't go their way.

 

[HEYHEY]

Polls are more accurate than an online survey that can be flooded by bots.

How about my other points? How can you have a poll ask a question that doesnt even logically make sense ?

 

[HEYHEY]

That is what you think; but you are wrong. I live in the country and I have half a dozen guns and have expert shooting skills. I have never been called a metrosexual.

I fully support the Governments ban.

You dont own a gun. People who own firearms are required to know the basics, you do not.

 

[HEYHEY]

Instead of complaining, why don't you suggest the gun lobby pay for that poll? I have a feeling they won't because they worry the poll wouldn't go their way.

I'm not complaining I'm bringing up valid points that not one of you are willing to to answer. Now why is that ?