Average pay per meet for SB

[G.D. Gentleman]

You guys were mentioning about some of profiles are Pro. You can understand from the way they message you and their pics. They are willing to meet you quickly. Who are they? what do you mean by pro. are they SP? are they from known agencies? or independents? So far we know almost all known SPs from advertisement. Some of SB profiles seem to me they are pro but not in the SP market.

'Pro' is they demonstrate skills to manipulate you quickly and maximize what they get from you. Actions such as:

-Always/mostly online and quick to respond to any message you send them.

-They ask 'what's your budget' - making you reveal what you're willing to spend. A crossover example is strippers who know how to hustle a horny guy into paying maximum amount for fun.

-Minimal discussion about, well, who they are and who you are - the conversation is mostly/only about getting together and how soon.

-Ready to meet right away, same day often, yet present like they want an ongoing arrangement - i.e. weekly visits with ppm, monthly if you're willing to give it right away, etc.


Some of these ladies may also be escorts, but some are not - they are Professional Sugar Babies. With the closing of strip clubs there has been an uptick in these Pro Sugar Babies as they bring their hustling skills from the club to the websites.

Hope that helps.

 

[Uniforms Please]

Yesterday, I had a discussion on SA with a SB, never met her yet, she wanted e-transfer of $$ for rent. Need to be aware of the scams.

 

[G.D. Gentleman]

Are they reliable for meeting them at hotel ? or going their place if she can host? I just don't want to get any trouble. I just want to get what I need.

They rarely/never offer to host. As for reliable, that's a case by case assessment.

Just like Uniforms Please note above mine here - some will try to scam you, for example $50 to cover the uber to your house/hotel...then ghost you. Some might agree to $400 ppm for a few hours...actually see you at your hotel, get right down to it and leave after 45 minutes.

The consistency we enjoy with SP's, Agency SP's and well reviewed Indies, has spoiled us and when going into (first time or back again) the Sugar Bowl one must remember it's a whole different mindset and approach.


I have moved on for SB's myself and found both a regular rotation of favorite SP's and a second list of favorites I see long term (once every few months). The monthly budget I would be spending on a SB (ppm x weekly visits) plus a hotel each week to host her visits within - translates into quite a budget for seeing SP's 45min or 60min sessions each time.

Good luck finding what works for you.

 

[MONTYY]

Had an SB a few years back. She was 19. $300 for 2 hours. Anything higher seems way over priced.

 

[MONTYY]

Every arrangement is different deal. You were lucky for having this kind of arrangement.

And she was hotter than most SP's I've been with.

 

[shack]

I was asked 400 - 700 per meet.

I found SB thing is a little bit wasting a time. There are so many girls they are looking for online arrangement. They ask monthly or weekly allowance maybe for a couple of hundreds. They say they can share pics videos. That's really stupid ! I think many idiot guys are willing to do it. That's why girls are come up with this stupid idea.

I joined a different site, but very similar. I struck out for the first two months but am now on a roll. Later today, I am meeting my 4th SB in 8 days.

#1 is a 24 year old artsy/hippie type gal. We hit it off great and the sex was great. 3 hours for $300. Seeing her again tomorrow for a longer date.

#2 is a 19 year old foreign student, Latina. I only met her a few days ago for a short coffee date after weeks of chatting. She is super cute and bubbly happy like a typical teenager. I've given her nothing so far, but maybe should have slipped her a few bucks for that coffee date. Supposed to see her for a real date this weekend. $300/date agreed to, but full sex may be a gradual process.

#3 was last night. A 39 year old separated super horny MILF. I prefer the younger girls but could tell from her profile and chats that she is craving cock. Not surprisingly she was slobbering all over my dick in less than 10 minutes. Great BJ, then fucking, then more extended BJ and she swallowed the load. 2 1/2 hours for $300.

#4 in a few hours from now. Not the prettiest, and a few extra pounds but 38G's, natural. I have a big fetish for huge boobs. She is 23 and said that she is sexually inexperienced and seems a bit unsure of herself. I told her that I can guide her and also told her to shave bald and not wear a bra. So far she is compliant. When she asked about allowance I told her that we can discuss it in person once we see what type of chemistry we have. Guaranteed that it will not be more than $300.

You guys should not overpay.

90-95% of the girls want money for online chatting, pics and vids. I have not and will not pay a penny. There's no way in the world that there are that many lonely suckers around who will pay for that. It's definitely not a sellers' market. I have now idea how so many girls think that this is a fairy tale world and that there are thousands of guys who will pay to talk to fairy princesses-in-waiting.

Some of them plead and tell me how loyal they will be and how I can tell them my problems. What a laugh. As if a teenager knows anything about understanding the problems of a guy my age. And what does loyal mean? She won't talk to anyone else? LOL.

I have gotten a bunch of sob stories describing every sort of financial distress such as tuition is due the next day, broken phone, broken laptop they need for online school, rent money to avoid eviction, a sick grandmother and on and on. There's also the ones who want just a small donation to prove that I am real or serious. I immediately ask them how they will prove that that they are serious or real. That's when I get blocked. LOL.

 

[Leslielake]

I joined a different site, but very similar. I struck out for the first two months but am now on a roll. Later today, I am meeting my 4th SB in 8 days.

#1 is a 24 year old artsy/hippie type gal. We hit it off great and the sex was great. 3 hours for $300. Seeing her again tomorrow for a longer date.

#2 is a 19 year old foreign student, Latina. I only met her a few days ago for a short coffee date after weeks of chatting. She is super cute and bubbly happy like a typical teenager. I've given her nothing so far, but maybe should have slipped her a few bucks for that coffee date. Supposed to see her for a real date this weekend. $300/date agreed to, but full sex may be a gradual process.

#3 was last night. A 39 year old separated super horny MILF. I prefer the younger girls but could tell from her profile and chats that she is craving cock. Not surprisingly she was slobbering all over my dick in less than 10 minutes. Great BJ, then fucking, then more extended BJ and she swallowed the load. 2 1/2 hours for $300.

#4 in a few hours from now. Not the prettiest, and a few extra pounds but 38G's, natural. I have a big fetish for huge boobs. She is 23 and said that she is sexually inexperienced and seems a bit unsure of herself. I told her that I can guide her and also told her to shave bald and not wear a bra. So far she is compliant. When she asked about allowance I told her that we can discuss it in person once we see what type of chemistry we have. Guaranteed that it will not be more than $300.

You guys should not overpay.

90-95% of the girls want money for online chatting, pics and vids. I have not and will not pay a penny. There's no way in the world that there are that many lonely suckers around who will pay for that. It's definitely not a sellers' market. I have now idea how so many girls think that this is a fairy tale world and that there are thousands of guys who will pay to talk to fairy princesses-in-waiting.

Some of them plead and tell me how loyal they will be and how I can tell them my problems. What a laugh. As if a teenager knows anything about understanding the problems of a guy my age. And what does loyal mean? She won't talk to anyone else? LOL.

I have gotten a bunch of sob stories describing every sort of financial distress such as tuition is due the next day, broken phone, broken laptop they need for online school, rent money to avoid eviction, a sick grandmother and on and on. There's also the ones who want just a small donation to prove that I am real or serious. I immediately ask them how they will prove that that they are serious or real. That's when I get blocked. LOL.

Which website did you join?

I personally stay away from these sites. Its a bit too much time consuming and then you have to find a place, and when you book, they disappear. Too much hassle.

 

[Uniforms Please]

If you are willing to put in the effort, you can find the right one on SA. Some are scammers, some are just horny and should be SP's, many are just people that are cautious and want to know you before they commit to much.

 

[Blackswann2000]

Which website did you join?

I personally stay away from these sites. Its a bit too much time consuming and then you have to find a place, and when you book, they disappear. Too much hassle.

Must be secret benefits.. correct me if I'm wrong

 

[black booty lover]

What's the going numbers for sbs. I am finding the ask is 500 now.

That's ridiculous if you ask me, but just like the SP market, they will take what the market will give. If men are willing to pay those rates then all the power to them.

 

[uchual]

I found secret benefits is not reliable, expensive and not many profiles. You pay and buy credits, basically you get 100 points in basic plan and 1 message is 10 points. If somebody sends you a message, if you want to read it, another 10 points gone. If you want to see private pics, you have to spend points. Every action you do means spending your points.

Try seeking.com

Actually, the basic plan is 200 points. And yes, they go fast if your don't do your due diligence. But if you do your homework, it can actually payoff nicely. At least that has been my experience.

 

[GGGDickson]

if you can find one that you get along with, with the right attitude and good sex , I would say you're looking at $1500 - $2000 /month - though if you're smart you dole this out on a weekly basis or 4 times a month on however you want to divy it up. You do not want to front $2000 up front because they will most likely ghost you

My experience as well. In addition to the monthly donation the one I had in Madrid asked me to contribute to her apartment so she could be closer to me. Then her mobile phone so we could talk more. Then her car and her clothes and her gym membership, them her stylist. Then the worst she could not see me because she was ill then her mother was ill and then she had a family emergency.

Then while I as in Madrid and she could not see me as she was ill. I thought I would stop by her place to bring her soup. I was paying for the place. I knock and a young Spaniard answers her door. Do not need to tell you I canceled her credit card I was paying. I cut off her payment for her apartment, her car lease, her allowance, and she decided to call me back telling me the young man was her bother.

Fool me once ok but fooling me twice. I have stayed away from these arrangements. I pay as I go. Yes I have had escorts who steal from me or take my money and run. But I might step in shit once I am not stepping into it twice.

Not the first time I got used and won't be last. But I tend to stay away once burnt. For me it is pay as I go. Just like I rarely prepay a provider.

That is my experience with sugar babies or monthly arrangements. Not to say I have not had a few that work out. Kimberly did work out for years but this was way before Sugar Babes were around.

 

[GeeBee]

I got many messages from girls at SB. When I response them, they don't message me anymore. I am suspicious about they might have some automated system that keeps texting to men to spend the points to see message. Once you open the message, points gone and there is no real person anymore.

And we all should be careful for scammers. I just got one. They make bunch of stories to make you believe them. I would strongly recommend everybody "Do not send any money online".

This was my experience with SB too. I'd get a message from an interesting girl and be able to reply in literally minutes (receiving the message is free but the reply cost credits) and my reply would never even be read. I strongly suspect that it's bots / fakes that the site uses to make you use your credits and pay to reload. I was about to give up on SB when I got lucky, so be prepared to wade through the mud to get to the trophy.

 

[Blackswann2000]

My experience as well. In addition to the monthly donation the one I had in Madrid asked me to contribute to her apartment so she could be closer to me. Then her mobile phone so we could talk more. Then her car and her clothes and her gym membership, them her stylist. Then the worst she could not see me because she was ill then her mother was ill and then she had a family emergency.

Then while I as in Madrid and she could not see me as she was ill. I thought I would stop by her place to bring her soup. I was paying for the place. I knock and a young Spaniard answers her door. Do not need to tell you I canceled her credit card I was paying. I cut off her payment for her apartment, her car lease, her allowance, and she decided to call me back telling me the young man was her bother.

Fool me once ok but fooling me twice. I have stayed away from these arrangements. I pay as I go. Yes I have had escorts who steal from me or take my money and run. But I might step in shit once I am not stepping into it twice.

Not the first time I got used and won't be last. But I tend to stay away once burnt. For me it is pay as I go. Just like I rarely prepay a provider.

That is my experience with sugar babies or monthly arrangements. Not to say I have not had a few that work out. Kimberly did work out for years but this was way before Sugar Babes were around.

Thanks for sharing the detailed account..

 

[great_times2]

Thanks for sharing the detailed account..

yeah don't fall for full dependency mode. I don't mind giving some support to a great girl that helps her get ahead.....if it a) becomes a dependency life line, that's to much drama or b) you see them wasting it on shoes and purses alone....that's a waste not worth supporting. I've had great SBs where they totally apprecaite the support and it genuinely helps them with some debts or getting into their own place or whatever....and I like that I know its going to good use.

 

[rogerdodger]

My current SB works out to roughly $500 per week or about $2000/month. It's not transactional as an actual PPM but it works out that way as I make the payments within a few days of before and after we meet up . . So about $2000/month but spread over weekly. We meet 4-5 hours ar a time ,mostly in nearby hotels . The sex is great, she has an amazing attitude so far. A girl I am very glad to have met. I Might extend things a bit forward for some of her basic needs incrementally. Our age gap is over 20 years with myslef being the old Coot at 66 and she is 38 . She has no problem at all with it - after all it's the cash that really counts and I'm 100% aware of that. And we actually get along . I do treat her very well to dinners and other extras and she also def appreciates that. It seems her ex ( father of her child ) was a complete loser and now has no job and has never contributed to their child support for may years . So this girl I think is a pretty good find overall - at least for the short term. Have to see how it goes - but I've had way worse selfish SB's .

 

[great_times2]

My current SB works out to roughly $500 per week or about $2000/month. It's not transactional as an actual PPM but it works out that way as I make the payments within a few days of before and after we meet up . . So about $2000/month but spread over weekly. We meet 4-5 hours ar a time ,mostly in nearby hotels . The sex is great, she has an amazing attitude so far. A girl I am very glad to have met. I Might extend things a bit forward for some of her basic needs incrementally. Our age gap is over 20 years with myslef being the old Coot at 66 and she is 38 . She has no problem at all with it - after all it's the cash that really counts and I'm 100% aware of that. And we actually get along . I do treat her very well to dinners and other extras and she also def appreciates that. It seems her ex ( father of her child ) was a complete loser and now has no job and has never contributed to their child support for may years . So this girl I think is a pretty good find overall - at least for the short term. Have to see how it goes - but I've had way worse selfish SB's .

That sounds like the perfect set up...enjoy

 

[rogerdodger]

My only concern is a common trend, it seems , where the cash flow is steady but the interest to keep the sex declines over time. And that can happen anytime - thus the PPM.

 

[GGGDickson]

My current SB works out to roughly $500 per week or about $2000/month. It's not transactional as an actual PPM but it works out that way as I make the payments within a few days of before and after we meet up . . So about $2000/month but spread over weekly. We meet 4-5 hours ar a time ,mostly in nearby hotels . The sex is great, she has an amazing attitude so far. A girl I am very glad to have met. I Might extend things a bit forward for some of her basic needs incrementally. Our age gap is over 20 years with myslef being the old Coot at 66 and she is 38 . She has no problem at all with it - after all it's the cash that really counts and I'm 100% aware of that. And we actually get along . I do treat her very well to dinners and other extras and she also def appreciates that. It seems her ex ( father of her child ) was a complete loser and now has no job and has never contributed to their child support for may years . So this girl I think is a pretty good find overall - at least for the short term. Have to see how it goes - but I've had way worse selfish SB's .

Enjoy it as long as it last! I like to find those single mom's. I like their character and they have a burning desire to make it work. I have heard my share of stories of Exs. I think you got a pretty sweet deal. Live in the moment! Lucky you! I am jealous.

 

[GGGDickson]

My only concern is a common trend, it seems , where the cash flow is steady but the interest to keep the sex declines over time. And that can happen anytime - thus the PPM.

Been there done that multiple times. That is why you just need to enjoy each moment. Pay per visit has worked for me.