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Hipjdog

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Hey guys,

I've been on SA for a little while now and am looking for advice on how to effectively set one up.

Ideally, I'm looking to set up a deal with a university girl where she comes over occasionally for
some action and I help her out with her tuition.

Is there an effective way to communicate that in the messaging that doesn't come off as a creep
but gets the point across? It's not Bumble after all: I imagine the girls know what they're there for.

Thank you!
 

Leimonis

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I think you can literally say that (maybe substitute "action" for "fun").

A bigger issue for me seems to be that you are not allowed to talk $$ numbers on the site but a lot of new SDs do and girls give me shit from time to time for being a pussy and not wanting to talk about it on the site (or maybe they think it's creepy if I am too quick to suggest switching to text or messaging apps). I usually just block if that happens rather than risk being banned for "escort language" etc.
 

Cholla

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I've never done SA, but here is what I'd do. We all sometimes feel "enchanted" by on-line conversation, but I think it's an absolute must to meet a girl in person for a coffee to make sure that you won't waste your money. You are talking about thousands of dollars and I am sure meeting in person would help to determine if she fits you or not (no pun intended). You will quickly figure out that she might have another SD (or not) and nobody wants to take a risk hooking up with her.
 

Hipjdog

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I've never done SA, but here is what I'd do. We all sometimes feel "enchanted" by on-line conversation, but I think it's an absolute must to meet a girl in person for a coffee to make sure that you won't waste your money. You are talking about thousands of dollars and I am sure meeting in person would help to determine if she fits you or not (no pun intended). You will quickly figure out that she might have another SD (or not) and nobody wants to take a risk hooking up with her.
Yeah, I would definitely do a coffee beforehand to be sure things are legit.
 

Hipjdog

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I think you can literally say that (maybe substitute "action" for "fun").

A bigger issue for me seems to be that you are not allowed to talk $$ numbers on the site but a lot of new SDs do and girls give me shit from time to time for being a pussy and not wanting to talk about it on the site (or maybe they think it's creepy if I am too quick to suggest switching to text or messaging apps). I usually just block if that happens rather than risk being banned for "escort language" etc.
Yeah I would think what you’re doing (switch to text) is the best option for sure
 

Cholla

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Yeah, I would definitely do a coffee beforehand to be sure things are legit.
Probably, it'll be an international, Asian, student. I can't give you any advice, but it'll be easy for you to figure out if she currently has (or had) a SD already - the way she dresses, self confidence, talk... I have no idea why am I telling you this because I honestly never done SA. :) I'm sure you have lots of experience.
 
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Leimonis

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Yeah I would think what you’re doing (switch to text) is the best option for sure
well, beats being banned. I hear they really do a number on you if they decide to ban you as they ban all your devices, IPs, credit cards etc.
 
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GeeBee

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Be straight forward and honest about your intentions, but not crude. Language matters and in my experience being a gentleman sets you apart from alot of assholes on the Sugar sites.

They ban the girl as well for discussing $$, so you can loose contact with a potential SB just as things are getting interesting. Set up a Snap Chat account or Signal and discuss details there, its easier to communicate with the girl there anyway if things work out. If you have a burner phone use that # to set up Signal, or text if you're comfortable.

If she balks at any of those options I'd guess you aren't going to have success with the girl anyway, so move on.
 

Hipjdog

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Be straight forward and honest about your intentions, but not crude. Language matters and in my experience being a gentleman sets you apart from alot of assholes on the Sugar sites.

They ban the girl as well for discussing $$, so you can loose contact with a potential SB just as things are getting interesting. Set up a Snap Chat account or Signal and discuss details there, its easier to communicate with the girl there anyway if things work out. If you have a burner phone use that # to set up Signal, or text if you're comfortable.

If she balks at any of those options I'd guess you aren't going to have success with the girl anyway, so move on.
I think that's all good advice. Don't be crude on the site but get to the point.

Does anyone have a rough idea of what's a fair rate for a PPM?
 

superman12

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Always try to meet in person before agreeing to any sort of arrangement. Lots of scammers on there who will ask for payment upfront and then ghost you. After a few message exchanges on SA move over to text/call then have a meet up. If the girl is not willing to take those steps then most likely she is a scammer or not serious enough about sugaring
 

Hipjdog

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Always try to meet in person before agreeing to any sort of arrangement. Lots of scammers on there who will ask for payment upfront and then ghost you. After a few message exchanges on SA move over to text/call then have a meet up. If the girl is not willing to take those steps then most likely she is a scammer or not serious enough about sugaring
Makes sense to me. If the girl agrees, what is a sensible PPM number?
 
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oral.com

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Hey guys,

I've been on SA for a little while now and am looking for advice on how to effectively set one up.

Ideally, I'm looking to set up a deal with a university girl where she comes over occasionally for
some action and I help her out with her tuition.

Is there an effective way to communicate that in the messaging that doesn't come off as a creep
but gets the point across? It's not Bumble after all: I imagine the girls know what they're there for.

Thank you!
Just to be absolutely clear, if you’re looking for an intimate encounter without a real girlfriend experience (Dinner, shows, hangout) SA is not for you. If you’re looking for an outcall with a young hottie, escorts are the way to go.

Finding your SA unicorn will take time and money (a lot of money). SA girls tend to flake, they cancel last minute, or they don’t show or show up really late. Getting catfished is not uncommon. There many scammers and a few may even hide their real gender. Yes SA can be a real adventure

SA girls when you finally connect often need a lot of direction in bed. Thats ok if you’re a dominant lover , not so much if you yourself want the girls to do all/ most of the work.

Finally, ppm is the only way to go. There has been some really good advice given in previous posts.

SPs are cost effective, reliable (agency girls) and experienced sexually. If you are into variety, then SPs are for you.

if you’re single, (god bless you,) up your game and score a girlfriend

Go Jays!!!!
 
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Hipjdog

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May 13, 2022
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Just to be absolutely clear, if you’re looking for an intimate encounter without a real girlfriend experience (Dinner, shows, hangout) SA is not for you. If you’re looking for an outcall with a young hottie, escorts are the way to go.

Finding your SA unicorn will take time and money (a lot of money). SA girls tend to flake, they cancel last minute, or they don’t show or show up really late. Getting catfished is not uncommon. There many scammers and a few may even hide their real gender. Yes SA can be a real adventure

SA girls when you finally connect often need a lot of direction in bed. Thats ok if you’re a dominant lover , not so much if you yourself want the girls to do all/ most of the work.

Finally, ppm is the only way to go. There has been some really good advice given in previous posts.

SPs are cost effective, reliable (agency girls) and experienced sexually. If you are into variety, then SPs are for you.

if you’re single, (god bless you,) up your game and score a girlfriend

Go Jays!!!!
Yeah, makes sense. I guess I’m looking for that unicorn where she’s a cute university girl who isn’t an SP but is down for PPM. I imagine that might take a while to find.
 

Leimonis

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Yeah, makes sense. I guess I’m looking for that unicorn where she’s a cute university girl who isn’t an SP but is down for PPM. I imagine that might take a while to find.
and the higher the ppm the less it will take :)
 

superman12

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Makes sense. Jeez, escorts are so much easier. 2 texts and you're done.
SA is definetly a lot more work and a bit more complicated but when you find a gem its all worth it. Its more of a fwb vibe when you find someone good on there compared to sp's where it feels purely transactional at times.
 

Tony2000

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SA seems to be barren lately. There are very few potential SBs. I live outside of Toronto and there have been ZERO female members logged in within the past day. Most of the "members" haven't logged in for a week or more - in other words, they have given up or found someone.

Secret Benefits is somewhat better. I have had some luck meeting a few different young women but no long-term gems so far.
 
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