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mandrill

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100 billion dollars donated to Ukraine.
Where is it?
My sources are YouTube.
Almost as reliable as your Twitter.
What a winner you are. As soon as I ask you to step up and post real sources and information, you try and make a joke.
 
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What a winner you are. As soon as I ask you to step up and post real sources and information, you try and make a joke.
he plainly told you that his source is YouTube.
You’re trying to squeeze orange juice from an old shoe and you’re getting mad at the shoe :)
 
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The actual reporters are on the ground in Bakhmut to give us the exact prognosis of that war, and yes the Russian forces are devastated as they expected it t be a walk in the park.
But these right wingers who for some goodness knows what reason, adore Russia and will want you to believe their sources who operate out of mama's basement!!

Stop projecting from your mamma basements with your left wingers neoliberal / neoncons junk propaganda fake news on Ukraine!!!




NBC News chief international correspondent Keir Simmons went to Sevastopol, surrounded by a significant Russian military presence given it is home to the Russian Navy's Black Sea Fleet, and in a live segment admitted that it's not at all realistic Zelensky and Ukrainian forces can ever hope to take Crimea.









This is especially as the "the people there... view themselves as Russian." Simmons noted that "This is the closest that any US news crew has got to the Russian Black Sea Fleet in many many years." He explained that "Vladimir Putin will be determined to defend that port - to not have it take it away from him - he may well do pretty much anything to try to achieve that."
 
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Stop projecting from your mamma basements with your left wingers neoliberal / neoncons junk propaganda fake news on Ukraine!!!

NBC News chief international correspondent Keir Simmons went to Sevastopol, surrounded by a significant Russian military presence given it is home to the Russian Navy's Black Sea Fleet, and in a live segment admitted that it's not at all realistic Zelensky and Ukrainian forces can ever hope to take Crimea.
This is especially as the "the people there... view themselves as Russian." Simmons noted that "This is the closest that any US news crew has got to the Russian Black Sea Fleet in many many years." He explained that "Vladimir Putin will be determined to defend that port - to not have it take it away from him - he may well do pretty much anything to try to achieve that."
Okay, so let's analyze your post, shall we?

I had to waste 5 minutes of my weekend googling your lies. Let's start with Max Blumenthal.


Blumenthal is a sketchy conspiracy theory asshole. 😯:oops:🤓

Let's check out the "Ukrainian government organization" Blumenthal mentions.... Ohhh, heavensy-wevvensy!!! Turns out Blumenthal lied. (What a huge, fucking surprise!!!)

"Myrotvorets" is not associated with the Ukrainian government at all!!!!! In fact, the Ukrainian government has them under investigation. Oh!!!!!! 😹 🐸 :geek: :D 🥳




So on the TERB garbage-o-meter, your post scores 0 out of 10, as total garbage.
 
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mandrill

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YouTube is a great source of information.

For example, look how this video perfectly illustrates the dialogue that we are having.

So Wanny, when are you going to stop dicking around and post the sources you actually rely on for your information?.... We are awaiting. 😼:unsure:😺🙀
 

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So on the TERB garbage-o-meter, your post scores 0 out of 10, as total garbage.
Ahem.

Ur garbage-o-meter is dialed onto the: "Russian Propaganda/Lies Garbage" setting which is evidenced by that '0' score for total garbage.

Tune it to the, "Ahem, We Live In Reality, You Dumbass Propaganda Refusenik" setting and the reality check score would be a total "10" across the board except of course for the Russian judge-apologists on this board.
 
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Ur garbage-o-meter is dialed onto the: "Russian Propaganda/Lies Garbage/Everything I dont agree with" setting which is evidenced by that '10' score for total garbage.
Tune it to the, "Ahem, We Live In Reality a Bubble, You Dumbass Propaganda Refusenik" setting and the reality check score would be a total "0" across the board except of course for the Russian judge sane people.
There. Fixed it for ya.
 
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It’s still Mud season… mobility is difficult. Come summer… May and June… the war goes into full gear.

Ukraine will have 60,000 NATO troops with NATO equipment. Russia will do what it always does. Throw bodies at the problem.

Still Russia’s war to lose.
 

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It’s still Mud season… mobility is difficult. Come summer… May and June… the war goes into full gear.

Ukraine will have 60,000 NATO troops with NATO equipment. Russia will do what it always does. Throw bodies at the problem.

Still Russia’s war to lose.
Guess who losing? Who is throwing bodies at the problem?

“ I am 85 year old.
For fuck sake, I am unfit for service. Do you under that or not?
Mobilization officer: “ What ? Are you not alive?!”

” I AM UNFIT…


Poker you are soooooo gullible in believing the lies, & propaganda by the neoliberal & neoconservatives…. Can’t wait to see you cry like a baby! When the real fact come out! Russia win war, President Zelensky tried and convicted in for in his role of overs 270, 000 Urkanine soldiers killed already and counting! And Urkanine get deNazisfy and then American public get angry about all the bullshit lies feed to them my the mainstream media and by the Biden Administration along with the neoliberals & neoconservative!

So far the real # about aprox 20,000 russign solider dead and 270, 000 Urkanine soldiers dead! Who is throwing bodies at the problem?
Who kidnapped man in middle street and putting them in Bakhmut( NeoNazi Urkanine govt)?




There will be a day of reckoning when the American public will get so angry about lies told to them by the mainstream media, Biden administration, MIC, neoliberal, neocons, the FBI and the CIA. They demand a firing of all the heads of all the agencies, then a defunding and then demand minimum defence spending on defensive I hope!
 
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Valcazar

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Ahh... sources , how about BBC? Something palatable for you.


To illustrate how much 100 billion really is.

1 million seconds is about 12 days, 100 billion seconds is about 3200 YEARS . (sources - a calculator).

100 billion dollars is almost double of Russia's military budget.

Where did the money go? With sources if you would be so kind.

Where does the money go?
Military aid pays for drones, tanks, missiles and other munitions systems as well as training, logistics and intelligence support. Humanitarian and financial aid are extra.
Humanitarian aid includes food assistance, safe drinking water, medical supplies and other necessities for Ukrainians displaced by the conflict. Financial aid is economic. It keeps Ukraine's government operating by paying civil servants, healthcare workers and educators.
Military aid accounts for more than half of the US spending on Ukraine, leaving $3.96bn committed to humanitarian aid and $26.73bn in financial aid.

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Source : Your own article.
 

mandrill

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Guess who losing? Who is throwing bodies at the problem?

“ I am 85 year old.
For fuck sake, I am unfit for service. Do you under that or not?
Mobilization officer: “ What ? Are you not alive?!”

” I AM UNFIT…


Poker you are soooooo gullible in believing the lies, & propaganda by the neoliberal & neoconservatives…. Can’t wait to see you cry like a baby! When the real fact come out! Russia win war, President Zelensky tried and convicted in for in his role of overs 270, 000 Urkanine soldiers killed already and counting! And Urkanine get deNazisfy and then American public get angry about all the bullshit lies feed to them my the mainstream media and by the Biden Administration along with the neoliberals & neoconservative!

So far the real # about aprox 20,000 russign solider dead and 270, 000 Urkanine soldiers dead! Who is throwing bodies at the problem?
Who kidnapped man in middle street and putting them in Bakhmut( NeoNazi Urkanine govt)?




There will be a day of reckoning when the American public will get so angry about lies told to them by the mainstream media, Biden administration, MIC, neoliberal, neocons, the FBI and the CIA. They demand a firing of all the heads of all the agencies, then a defunding and then demand minimum defence spending on defensive I hope!
Addy, if the Ukrainian death rate was a high as the article suggested, Bakhmut would have fallen several months ago.

You have to do a "common sense check" with news articles.
 
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Addy, if the Ukrainian death rate was a high as the article suggested, Bakhmut would have fallen several months ago.

You have to do a "common sense check" with news articles.

Maybe you should check your sources! The truth is slowly coming out! Just like the bulshit of the IRAQ WMD!
 
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So with almost 50 billion going to military aid they should be well equipped.

With an average of 5 million per new tank, retail. They could buy, for example 10000 tanks.

But all they got so far is a couple of broken ones from Canada.

Or about 500 brand new F-15 fighter jets, but they have none.

See the math does not add up, no matter how reliable sources you quot.

Never mind the other 50 billion in humanitarian aid. Good luck figuring that out.

Like mandrill said in above post "common sense check".
Why don’t you use some common sense! How long does it take to train a F-15 fighter pilot ?
How long does it take to train and maintain a western tanks like M1 tank or leopands tanks?
How long to train and learn tank techniques and fight as a groups uses western systems and maintenance of tanks!
How long does it take to train urkraine to learn a patoriot air defence system?
Once you have those answer you will realize urkraine had lost the war!
Add up all the tanks they will receive today and to end of this year or fall . You will find it not enough physical tank they will receive
to make any difference because the war will be over by latest autumn when urkraine run out of artillery shell and ammunition!
Once you run out of ammunitions it’s game over! Di yourself a big favour google yourself and Find out this answers on this question i pointEd out!


Where they going to buy 10,000 western tanks? LoL ! It take time to built and you buy second hand western tanks it a long time to train on western tanks ! Ukraine don’t have the time to learn all that new stuff! Google that!

PS. If tomorrow they buy all thousands Soviet Tanks or thousands Soviets fighters then that a different story !
 
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So with almost 50 billion going to military aid they should be well equipped.

With an average of 5 million per new tank, retail. They could buy, for example 10000 tanks.

But all they got so far is a couple of broken ones from Canada.

Or about 500 brand new F-15 fighter jets, but they have none.

See the math does not add up, no matter how reliable sources you quot.

Never mind the other 50 billion in humanitarian aid. Good luck figuring that out.

Like mandrill said in above post "common sense check".

PS. Amazon is having a sale on drones, $100 each. They could buy 1 billion drones.
Wait. You think all the money that has been appropriated has been spent already?
 
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mandrill

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Why don’t you use some common sense! How long does it take to train a F-15 fighter pilot ?
How long does it take to train and maintain a western tanks like M1 tank or leopands tanks?
How long to train and learn tank techniques and fight as a groups uses western systems and maintenance of tanks!
How long does it take to train urkraine to learn a patoriot air defence system?
Once you have those answer you will realize urkraine had lost the war!
Add up all the tanks they will receive today and to end of this year or fall . You will find it not enough physical tank they will receive
to make any difference because the war will be over by latest autumn when urkraine run out of artillery shell and ammunition!
Once you run out of ammunitions it’s game over! Di yourself a big favour google yourself and Find out this answers on this question i pointEd out!
Where they going to buy 10,000 western tanks? LoL ! It take time to built and you buy second hand western tanks it a long time to train on western tanks ! Ukraine don’t have the time to learn all that new stuff! Google that!
PS. If tomorrow they buy all thousands Soviet Tanks or thousands Soviets fighters then that a different story !
They're not getting F-15's, IIRC. They're getting MIGs, on which they are already trained.

How long does it take to learn a tank?..... 3 months to make you competent? They've had the entire winter to train on new kit while the Russians human waved at Bakhmut. They're fine.

The Russians are using T-62's at this point.
 
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