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krealtarron

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There's no way that could be true!
I heard somewhere earlier on this board that Ukraine has lost 600 platoons and all 500 HIMARS!
Who knows what they lost? They dont publish it. But yes Russia is losing SO BAD, that they are still there. Like, make it make sense.
 

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There's no way that could be true!
I heard somewhere earlier on this board that Ukraine has lost 600 platoons and all 500 HIMARS!
You keep beating the same drum Frank...Ukraine is kicking Russia's ass....while Russia is still firing rockets, bringing in infantry and tanks etc etc...If we only listen to what you're saying and what you're posting....Russia would've pulled out by last Christmas if it was all true....it isn't. Russia is still somehow hanging around because despite infantry loss and tanks and equipment...Putin thinks there's an upside to his campaign...despite the losses Russia is taking...
 
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How long has Russia been announcing the victory at Bakhmut?
As long as Ukraine has been announcing victory at Bakhmut.

BTW atleast I am presenting news from a 100 year old news organization.

You are presenting from Ukrainian Twitter Bots and the a guy named after the Ukrainian nazi battalions ? :ROFLMAO:
 

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As long as Ukraine has been announcing victory at Bakhmut.

BTW atleast I am presenting news from a 100 year old news organization.

You are presenting from Ukrainian Twitter Bots and the a guy named after the Ukrainian nazi battalions ? :ROFLMAO:
Just because a fake news source is old doesn't mean its good.

I do find it totally hilarious that if we post legit news sources you discount them as 'MSM' and therefore must be fake. If I post then post from OSINT type sources off of twitter then claim they aren't MSM so are fake news.
Meanwhile you're down to one source you think is legit, the Hindustan News, which has been repeatedly called out for posting bullshit.

ISW has updates sourced to Ukrainians and Russian milbloggers, they say Russia claims to have gained a tiny bit more of Bakhmut.
What is true is that Putin has dedicated a large part of his force to taking this one city and hasn't been able to do it yet.
And its still mud season.


 
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Just because a fake news source is old doesn't mean its good.

I do find it totally hilarious that if we post legit news sources you discount them as 'MSM' and therefore must be fake. If I post then post from OSINT type sources off of twitter then claim they aren't MSM so are fake news.
Meanwhile you're down to one source you think is legit, the Hindustan News, which has been repeatedly called out for posting bullshit.

ISW has updates sourced to Ukrainians and Russian milbloggers, they say Russia claims to have gained a tiny bit more of Bakhmut.
What is true is that Putin has dedicated a large part of his force to taking this one city and hasn't been able to do it yet.
And its still mud season.


I dont usually discount MSM. But on this issue they are promoting only one side of the story because most MSM are left leaning and they are promoting the democrat proxy war. And your argument is that because HT speaks to the other side, they are automatically fake news. So to you, anything you dont like to read, is fake news. That is kinda the Trumpian attitude to things.

And based on your source above, ISW says the Russia claims to have gained a little bit in Bakhmut. A few days ago HT reported that Russia gained like 5% more of Bakhmut. So it seems to me that HT is more accurate than any other western MSM just based on that.
 
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Or a more realistic description based on casualty figures is Putin's paranoia over Prigozhin's popularity has had let to Wagner basically destroying itself.

Not sure what the figures are now that fighting is more house to house but for most of this year, casualties were in the 7:1 range. Also worth noting is that while Wagner and the Russia conscripts wear themselves out, trained and well supplied Ukrainian forces are gathering in Chasiv Yar waiting for the mud to dry. As Ukraine is deploying Challenger II and Leopard II tanks, Russia is deploying T-55s.
 

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Because Kreal is having a proxy war in his head, Russia vs Nato.
While squeeze has his little hollywood action spy thriller going on in his head.
 
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