Sugar Dating Experience

[John Wick]

I can’t believe how gullible some guys can be who think ladies always have the best intentions and there’s always something wrong with us guys,and I’m talking about you Mr. Wick. SA is a cesspool of time wasters, scammers, opportunists, entitled women and a few gems here and there. From Ukrainians who supposedly just arrived in town but she’s never available to meet,always sending you unsolicited pics, videos and all of a sudden there’s some emergency and she needs your help with money, to Asians or Russians who are jewellers from Toronto or lived in TO but currently are in NYC for a biz course or a convention and the first thing they asked you it’s your Telegram or WhatsApp numbers, to the girls who want deposits or Uber money bc they had so many time wasters, to the ones who want ppm,allowance and to be wined and dined just to get to know you and get comfortable to be intimate after a few dates,…… and most recently are the ones who just want free dinner and drinks and at the end of the dinner they realize that you’re not compatible or she’s not attracted to you which in reality she was there just for free dinner and drinks, I know that because it happened to me to. Recently when I called out a girl on her scam and blocked her she told me she had screenshotted my photos and she’s going to post my photos on Reddit as a child molester. So please be careful guys.
Having said all those things I have met a few gems albeit all on the expensive side that has kept me on SA for now.
If it’s tgtbt the chances are it is and take everything they tell you with a grain of salt.

Re-read my post. I never said there's always something wrong with the guys. I said they are there to assess you as much as you are there to assess them. Assuming you are NOT brutally ugly in such a manner as to instantly put the girl off her feed, logic dictates she's going to take the dinner to assess if you are someone she wants to sugar date. Will there be time wasters? Absolutely. That said, the other side of the coin shouldn't be that if she attends the meet and greet dinner and says no to anything further, it doesn't AUTOMATICALLY mean she had ulterior motives and was nothing more than a mooching time-waster.

 

[GeeBee]

Some tips I would like to share.

First check the background of pics posted.
- too many vacation pics or exotic locations move on
- look for local landmarks in pics ie: CN Tower, Streetcars/Buses, etc.
- Do google pic searches of posted pics, some will link to sites such as Linkedin, etc.
- Be aware of label whores, too many high end labels in pics...red flag

Look where she logs in from. Out of the country either looking for another SD while with another SD on a trip or a scammer.

On seeking.com check out her wish list what her are tastes like. Too many high end brands or asking for the world another red flag.

Also see how long they have been on the site. Longer on the site more likely a pro, on the other hand she may have been around the block and knows the game and is straight up. Use big head to determine.

Don't go for the dolled up bimbos they are usually pros, may not be full-time escorts but may be full-time SBs looking for a whale.

Look for GND and those that seem down to earth. It may cost you a dinner to find out what they are all about, but at least that dinner may be more enjoyable than spending a few hours with a total airhead.

Also if she says she is a student ask where and what she is studying, then research where on campus her classes would be and ask how she likes classes in building such and such. If she has no clue what you are talking about, she doesn't go there.

Also run away from any girl that posts pics from a stripclub lockerroom. Takeout prices with a premium is what she is looking for.

These are all very good tips, particularly the local landmarks in pics.

Be aware that some sites will not allow image searches. This can be a good thing for you if you’re trying to be discreet as someone else can’t screen shot or spread a pic you send to a girl.

Re the wish lists: I’m getting into double digits now on the number of SB’s I’ve had over the years (all found through Seeking) and not one successful arrangement has ever mentioned the wish list either before we meet or after. I’ve asked about it a couple of times after I’m sleeping with the girl, and I’m told the site takes the girls to the wish list as part of their signup process and suggests they put some items in it. (It used to, not sure if this is still the case) So she may have just clicked on some crap to populate it and doesn’t really pay attention to it.

To me if the girl mentions wish lists early on, or wants me to buy the luxury brand crap its a no go for me. Cash is king and if she’s got bills or tuition to pay, or just wants some extra income, that’s far more like the kind of girl I’m looking for. Down to earth and head not in the clouds. The dolled up Barbie type who wants another fucking designer hand bag is looking for a whale and it ain’t gonna be me.

I’ve said this before but it’s worth repeating. The Barbie girl or the hot cheerleader type is getting a lot of attention on these sites, whether they’re real or scammers. Even if she’s the real thing the odds of her reading your initial message are lower. Go for the GND type, maybe even that seemingly geeky gamer girl and your chances are way better all around.

 

[Traineeslavemark]

If it’s what you call expensive you may not like it

I said it’s expensive for a dating site, especially if most are scammers. In the grand scheme of things, it’s a good night out, so not gonna break the bank. Just looking at value for money, and it looks like there are gems to be had if you are careful and weed out the scammers.

 

[Sugarsweet905]

For image searches:

Seeking - enlarge pic and right click
Secret Benefits - use notification email and right click profile pic from email.

 

[pusher69]

1. I have no idea what this SB is worth to me until I met her

2. this puts the SD in a vulnerable position since for all he knows ALL that that "SB" does is collecting money and free food. Maybe she does 20 meets a months at $200 a pop and she nets a healthy $4,000 tax free and a smaller grocery bill which is more than an average person makes working 8 hrs a day AND she gets to tell herself that she is not a whore or whatever.
Or she is a toe dipper, or whatever the fuck.

3. It presumes that my time is worth less than her time, which is incorrect and insulting.

4. It presumes that I benefit from a convo with a chick who I don't get to fuck because she is young or whatever, so it should not be free for me. In fact I would rather not meet a woman who I don't get to fuck because it's an obvious waste of time.

This is exactly why you and the SB must set out rules of engagement prior to meeting in person to set expectations and boundaries.
Your shouldn't be paying your SB on the initial meetup unless the expectation has been set and both parties are in agreement of any monetary arrangement.

Your time is worth more than the SB's since you are the one that is going to be out of pocket... insulting is you not understanding how negotiations work and imply that said person has insulted you.. its a general statement.

#4. Welcome to civilian life... once you are able to navigate between the two, you will rely less on SB/SP world. Problem is most men I see in the real world are either too scared to approach a women or don't know how.

 

[Leimonis]

Your time is worth more than the SB's since you are the one that is going to be out of pocket... insulting is you not understanding how negotiations work and imply that said person has insulted you..

my time is worth more because I make more per hour or annually than she does, not because "I would be out of pocket".

Next time you are looking for a job ask the interviewer to pay you for your time. See how that will go.
Or if you are hiring, pay them for coming to an interview. Best of luck with that

 

[pusher69]

my time is worth more because I make more per hour or annually than she does, not because "I would be out of pocket".

Next time you are looking for a job ask the interviewer to pay you for your time. See how that will go.
Or if you are hiring, pay them for coming to an interview. Best of luck with that

Go back and read.. then re-read what I wrote.

 

[Leimonis]

Go back and read.. then re-read what I wrote.

Lol see you just provoked me to tell you to go fuck and re-fuck yourself

 

[IMBob]

Just got a message . I posted on a SB profile review thread that I favourited her on SA .... guess that isn't allowed .... smh .... Not a great loss.

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[IMBob]

One month membership ended on Seeking . I've been getting pop ups for 15 - 33% off to renew. Last month , I used code from https://dealspotr.com/promo-codes/seeking.com/66540039 for 20% off

 

[Traineeslavemark]

One month membership ended on Seeking . I've been getting pop ups for 15 - 33% off to renew. I used code from https://dealspotr.com/promo-codes/seeking.com/66540039 for 20% off

I invested in the 3 month price, although paid by prepaid card so only paid the first month. It won’t be able to renew.
having some luck, but the range of expectations is crazy. From 300ppm to a whopping 1000ppm or $5000 monthly allowance.

 

[Terminator2000]

so, if you stop paying her. what happens?

 

[IMBob]

I invested in the 3 month price, although paid by prepaid card so only paid the first month. It won’t be able to renew.
having some luck, but the range of expectations is crazy. From 300ppm to a whopping 1000ppm or $5000 monthly allowance.

Yes , I've notice a big increase in ask compensation Too , since pre CoVid or even a year ago . Lots more flaking, ghosting and deleting profile after lengthy messaging ( 30 messages - I thought we had a connection .... )

 

[oral.com]

Yes , I've notice a big increase in ask compensation Too , since pre CoVid or even a year ago . Lots more flaking, ghosting and deleting profile after lengthy messaging ( 30 messages - I thought we had a connection .... )

You are not unique, it’s crazy.

I dated a girl for a few months where we would set up a date and confirm the day before only to have her ghost me the same day.
A week later I would get a text with an apology plus flimsy excuse. We would book again and things would go great.

This would happen every other date, ghost followed by apology. It was too much and and I had to block her.

 

[pusher69]

Lol see you just provoked me to tell you to go fuck and re-fuck yourself

Its more like.. READ before you JUMP to a conclusion.

Let me re-iterate since you obviously have some reading issues.
I said " Your time is worth more than the SB's since you are the one that is going to be out of pocket"

 

[implied69]

I have good luck with sugar dating I guess. I started in that world about 5-6 years ago. I usually see girls that are in their early 20's and are university/college students. The arrangements I have had worked out fantastic. From my experience I find that that sb's (the ones who are actually legit) are way hotter then your average sp. I do agree that it is more legwork when your starting out with sugar dating compared to just seeing an sp but once you know what to look out for and weed out the scammers it's actually not that bad. Its not surprsing that many 20 year old girls are looking for a sugar daddy.

I would say it's a lot of work

 

[brian4hartley]

Yeah it’s a lot of work the first few weeks. In my 3rd week now, have a few dates lines up… have had a few flakes too. It’s not like I was stood up… they just didn’t confirm a few hours before, so I didn’t go out.

Having a good profile, well written makes a big difference too, I’m finding.

Almost every girl that’s reached out to me first, turned out to cancel at the last minute or was a scammer. And the ones I’ve reached out to, that reply, seem to be real.

And then there’s those girls that just invite you over to their place from the get go. They’re not SPs, I know because the BBBJ is terrible. But can still be fun.

 

[Traineeslavemark]

Yeah it’s a lot of work the first few weeks. In my 3rd week now, have a few dates lines up… have had a few flakes too. It’s not like I was stood up… they just didn’t confirm a few hours before, so I didn’t go out.

Having a good profile, well written makes a big difference too, I’m finding.

Almost every girl that’s reached out to me first, turned out to cancel at the last minute or was a scammer. And the ones I’ve reached out to, that reply, seem to be real.

And then there’s those girls that just invite you over to their place from the get go. They’re not SPs, I know because the BBBJ is terrible. But can still be fun.

And what ppm are you paying?

 

[brian4hartley]

I've only done one, and it was 500. 2-3 hours. I have another one tomorrow for 300. No idea what to expect.

 

[Bobbblitz004]

I've only done one, and it was 500. 2-3 hours. I have another one tomorrow for 300. No idea what to expect.

What platform you using?