Israel at war

shack

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Settlers attack with the backing of the state, with IDF forces.
Please provide a statement from the state of Israel or the IDF says that that is their policy. Governments release statements as to their positions on matters such as this.
 

Klatuu

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And before each of Israel's 'actions', there was another act of Palestinian terror. Which was preceded by Israeli action. Which was preceded by another Palestinian action. And round and round we go.

You have to therefore consider these incidents in an isolated manner. Not as part of a larger conflict. If 2 groups clashed and a bunch of people died, that is one thing. If one attacked concert goers because of something that happened elsewhere, then that is terrorism.
Doubling down on your bias a further time just shreds your credibility. It’s nonsensical and amateurish.
 

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And before each of Israel's 'actions', there was another act of Palestinian terror. Which was preceded by Israeli action. Which was preceded by another Palestinian action. And round and round we go.

You have to therefore consider these incidents in an isolated manner. Not as part of a larger conflict. If 2 groups clashed and a bunch of people died, that is one thing. If one attacked concert goers because of something that happened elsewhere, then that is terrorism.
Do you think that Hamas did not anticipate exactly the response that is occurring. They believe they need dead civilians in order to get world support. And it works. Israel does not bomb indiscriminately notwithstanding what some of the jew haters may have you believe. Hamas embeds rocket launchers in apartment buildings. schools, hospitals etc because they know that that will ultimately cause maximum death. Israel has warned everyone to leave because they intend to take out the hams command and control and rocket manufacturing facilities and launchers wherever they may be. The fact that this is very difficult given the numbers of people doesn't change the fact that Isreal will no longer live under the threat of an organization not only committed to its destruction but the wholesale killing of Jews. A ceasefire which will only give Hamas the opportunity to rearm is not going to happen. this was entirely predictable even to Hamas. they have exploited the Palestinian people for years in the insane quest to carry out their form of barbarism against Jews aided and abetted by people with the same mins set like franki and gryphon.
 

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Do you think that Hamas did not anticipate exactly the response that is occurring. They believe they need dead civilians in order to get world support. And it works. Israel does not bomb indiscriminately notwithstanding what some of the jew haters may have you believe. Hamas embeds rocket launchers in apartment buildings. schools, hospitals etc because they know that that will ultimately cause maximum death. Israel has warned everyone to leave because they intend to take out the hams command and control and rocket manufacturing facilities and launchers wherever they may be. The fact that this is very difficult given the numbers of people doesn't change the fact that Isreal will no longer live under the threat of an organization not only committed to its destruction but the wholesale killing of Jews. A ceasefire which will only give Hamas the opportunity to rearm is not going to happen. this was entirely predictable even to Hamas. they have exploited the Palestinian people for years in the insane quest to carry out their form of barbarism against Jews aided and abetted by people with the same mins set like franki and gryphon.
The wife beater defense. You have not changed.
 
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Shack, I support equal rights and the end of apartheid as the only non violent path forward so both Palestinians and Jews can learn to live together again. Rwanda got past a genocide, Israel can get past apartheid.
Say whatever you want.

You support this latest Hamas terror attack on Jewish Israeli civilians.

Your failure to agree with the statement that Kautilya asked you to, means that you support Hamas terror attacks. THAT is what you support.

Condemn this latest attack without trying to justify it in any way and specifically by blaming Israel.
 
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There’s a big difference between a victim and a loser. You are just a loser who likes to play the victim.
Then why have you repeatedly called me "victim"? 🤪 o_O:cautious:

There you go, singing a different tune again. You've called me a victim several times. But now I'm not a victim but a loser.

You know what Little Buddy, you back Hamas and Arab terrorists and they've LOST every single war just the way you and frank are getting demolished in this thread.
 

Leimonis

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Congrats on being the first Islamaphobe on the board to out and out support genocide.
Why are you bringing Islam into this? I only said Jew haters. Do you equal it with Islam?
 

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It is not only against Jews. By extension they also brutalize the Palestinians. Its like everybody else pays for their actions, except them.
They certainly victimize the Palestinians most of who I expect simply want abetter life for themselves and their families and have no interest in the destruction of Israel or the massacre of jews. Many are innocent victims of Hamas and the others with that mindset including frankie and gryphon.
 
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A terrorist is a terrorist. Whether they mass murder people like Hamas did. Or whether they kill a police officer, a priest or whoever else in a targeted killing in India.

Terrorists need to be neutralized.

I have already said Israel's policies are wrong. So not sure why you keep saying that I am cheering for their policies.

How the FUCK do you propose to neutralise terrorists? How has the US war on terror worked out in 20 years? Please lets hear your BRILLIANT proposals. 🤣🙄 WHile you are at it can you also eliminate mosquitos and cockroaches?
 
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Leimonis

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It is up to the authorities to plan that response. Not for me to suggest exactly how. The only thing I can state is my point of view.

What exactly do you propose? For Israel to kowtow to terrorists. And for Ukraine to kowtow to Russia. Anything else where you need people to kowtow to assholes? 😂
Exactly. Ukraine cannot stop and make peace with Russia because as long as Russia is ahead as a result of the war it would encourage their further aggression. Same exact thing with Israel.
 

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They certainly victimize the Palestinians most of who I expect simply want abetter life for themselves and their families and have no interest in the destruction of Israel or the massacre of jews. Many are innocent victims of Hamas and the others with that mindset including frankie and gryphon.
When you say most Palestinians you may be optimistic about how far the radicalization reached, particularly in gaza.
 

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I have no mercy for terrorism. So I think all terrorists should be snuffed out.

But if you prefer a different way, then arrest the settlers and sentence them per the law. Similarly, arrest the Hamas guys and sentence them. Arrest the Khalistani guys and sentence them.

Basically show some consistency.

But you call Isareli government response terrorist when it is not. You unfairly and without evidence accuse the Indian govt. of terrorism. But you refuse to call what the Hamas did terrorism. You refuse to call Khalistani terrorism, terrorism.
I've given you multiple examples of Israeli terrorism, from the Great March of Return, to the 2014 slaughter of Gaza to deliberate targeting of civilians, hospitals, schools, refugees fleeing and state backed settler attacks.

You just won't accept them because of your Islamaphobic bias against Palestinians.
 

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How the FUCK do you propose to neutralise terrorists? How has the US war on terror worked out in 20 years? Please lets hear your BRILLIANT proposals. 🤣🙄 WHile you are at it can you also eliminate mosquitos and cockroaches?
I don’t have mosquitoes or cockroaches in my house. Do you?
 

Frankfooter

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Exactly. Ukraine cannot stop and make peace with Russia because as long as Russia is ahead as a result of the war it would encourage their further aggression. Same exact thing with Israel.
Same thing with Palestinians.
They cannot kowtow to the occupying power as it encourages further aggression.
We see it daily with settler attacks and more settlements.

Oh, right, you think Palestinians don't count so its better just to blow them all up.
 

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This is exactly why you cannot trust Hamas! They need to be eradicated. This official deserves a bomb dropped on him.

Hamas official: 'We have not killed any civilians'

 
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