Israel at war

[richaceg]

Before the attack Gaza was a prison camp/concentration camp.
Now its a death camp.

Will the international outrage finally lead to an end of apartheid, blockade and occupation?
Or will Israel succeed in Nabka 2.0?

Yeah, Gaza was an open air prison run by Hamas.

 

[richaceg]

Looks like Biden's re-election just got harder.

US vetoes UN resolution urging humanitarian aid to Gaza

More photos of the bombing.
Take a look at the clean patch of grass where a car would have been.
Something like that could only have happened with a JDAM airburst, with a fireball above the site and not a sustained burn on the ground.

This will come out in the MSM soon.

I thought sleepy Joe was the best president the US had...top 5?

 

[PeteOsborne]

Looks like Biden's re-election just got harder.

US vetoes UN resolution urging humanitarian aid to Gaza

More photos of the bombing.
Take a look at the clean patch of grass where a car would have been.
Something like that could only have happened with a JDAM airburst, with a fireball above the site and not a sustained burn on the ground.

This will come out in the MSM soon.

It is sunlight, you can see the shadow of the guy with the backpack bent over.

 

[shack]

Buddy, I have asked him repeatedly about that since last year... you won't get a straight answer...

Because he has no strength to his convictions. Even he doesn't believe what he's saying.

And he's a coward.

 

[mellowjello]

I think it is the right thing to do because otherwise a) Israel will grab more land and b) That is offloading Israel's problem on Jordan. lol.

That's right, it's everyone else's fault for not taking in refugees, not the people driving them out. If some thug comes in to take over your house, the cops and the law should come down on your family for not taking you in.

 

[shack]

Still....

You're still chickening out.

You are an imposter when it comes to fighting terrorism.

 

[Frankfooter]

Yeah, Gaza was an open air prison run by Hamas.

They didn't man the sniper towers on the prison walls.

 

[Frankfooter]

But that said, while Israel's occupation of Palestinian land, their racism and apartheid etc should end, Hamas needs to be eliminated, for that process to even start. You simply cannot cut deals with the Hamas, or expect Israel to back down from wanting to root them out after such an attack as that would be nonsensical to propose.

Hamas came about in reaction to the occupation and apartheid. You can't kill all of Hamas and not expect another group to rise in their ashes.
If you want to end the cycle, address the root problem

End the occupation and end apartheid.

 

[shack]

So, are you looking for an excuse for genocide, is this what it's all about?

It's about eliminating a terrorist organization, Hamas, who are not a race, so it does not fit the definition of genocide.

Hamas is perpetrating any potential genocide on their civilians by A)initiating an attack that they knew would bring reprisals and B)they hide behind innocent Gazans putting them directly in harm's of of the reprisals.

Hamas and people like frank would love nothing more than the genocide of the Jewish race.

 

[Anbarandy]

You have a point there, I will give you that. I have seen some posts here with words like "evil", "vermin" etc., While they weren't explicitly referring to Gazans but to Hamas, we should tone our language down in how we refer to Hamas. Refer to Hamas as Hamas. Not as "human animals", "vermin", or "evil". Bassem Youseff's interview with Piers got me thinking, that yes, we often dehumanize those types of people and in the process we end up a) shifting adequate blame away from them - because after all, they cannot help it right? They are evil animals afterall! and b) justifying atrocities and war crimes against them like cutting off water, or a huge collateral body count even if it may be inevitable. This is especially also because I saw this post on my Israeli friends FB (who hasn't been my friend for a few years now as his racism towards Arabs is quite exhausting, but still somehow just lives in my friends list lol). This isn't right IMO - especially the last line, as it justifies collective punishments and war crimes against Gazans.

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Let us call Hamas what they are - a terrorist group, comprised of thinking, feeling, judging and intelligent human beings who MADE THE CHOICE to mass murder innocent Israeli civilians.

But that said, while Israel's occupation of Palestinian land, their racism and apartheid etc should end, Hamas needs to be eliminated, for that process to even start. You simply cannot cut deals with the Hamas, or expect Israel to back down from wanting to root them out after such an attack as that would be nonsensical to propose.

You forgot to add:

Hamas and it's cousin Hezbollah are Iranian proxy terrorist creations, funded, armed and directed by Iran to create chaos, terrorism in and to eliminate the Jewish state Israel from the Middle East.

 

[richaceg]

Hamas came about in reaction to the occupation and apartheid. You can't kill all of Hamas and not expect another group to rise in their ashes.
If you want to end the cycle, address the root problem

End the occupation and end apartheid.

aggression and violence towards the jews have been happening long before your claims....the ultimate goal is to destroy all jews....

 

[Frankfooter]

It's about eliminating a terrorist organization, Hamas, who are not a race, so it does not fit the definition of genocide.

Hamas is perpetrating any potential genocide on their civilians by A)initiating an attack that they knew would bring reprisals and B)they hide behind innocent Gazans putting them directly in harm's of of the reprisals.

Hamas and people like frank would love nothing more than the genocide of the Jewish race.

Never Again, buddy.
Never Again.

A Textbook Case of Genocide
Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?

 

[Frankfooter]

aggression and violence towards the jews have been happening long before your claims....the ultimate goal is to destroy all jews....

You sound like Hamas.

 

[richaceg]

You are so manly and brave in your armchair support of genocide.
It must make you feel so powerful to be able to support killing some many 'human animals'.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1714638883445497937

Palestinian deaths rise at the hands of Hamas...they need to be eliminated....

 

[richaceg]

You sound like Hamas.

is that an insult or a compliment?

 

[mellowjello]

And that is good enough justification for Israel to continue with their policies and finger point. The Palestinians are at a disadvantage here. So any group that rises up from Hamas' decline, needs to consider that, consider what they want for their people and adopt a different approach, failing which, we go back to square 1.

You're joking right.
What is square 1?

 

[shack]

Like I say, no matter what I say you won't accept

Not at all true.

If you said that "you denounce and condemn the Oct. 7 attack by Hamas on Israeli citizens as a terrorist attack", I'd accept that. Instead all you is justify it.

The fact that you refuse to do that proves beyond a doubt that your claims of being against ALL terrorism is a complete lie and you are a fraud.

This frank.

 

[squeezer]

That's right, it's everyone else's fault for not taking in refugees, not the people driving them out. If some thug comes in to take over your house, the cops and the law should come down on your family for not taking you in.

If Hamas released the hostages and agreed to step down and never run for power again for the sake of the civilians it has placed in danger with its barbaric actions, do you not believe it would end the bombing and hopefully lead towards a long term resolution?

 

[richaceg]

You're joking right.
What is square 1?

SQ1 is a few skirmishes between Gazans and settlers (that conflict will never end)...until Hamas flips the table and goes crazy again...

 

[Mod99]

We allow a certain amount of leeway in the politics forum - but if the tendency towards name calling and accusations continue some people won't be posting for awhile.

A word to the wise.