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shack

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If the Jews in Nazi camps rose up and butchered and gouged their way out of those camps, would you have a problem with that?
So, did they not use violence because they didn't have the ability and resources, or did they not use violence because they didn't see violence as a legitimate means to escaping their degradation and ultimate death.
Which one was it?
Can you please show us the gas chambers that Israel has constructed?
 

Frankfooter

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Lol, Frank you can’t even add 1 and 1, read the difference between Cannot and Should not. Never mind use picture books and pictographs….plus hundreds of others…

Assuming I did in fact misread or Misquote something, with me it’s once in a very rare blue moon..you trip over your own shoelaces dozens of times a day. And your font of knowledge is twitter…….”just saying”

By all means, quote what you think is wrong.
You quoted mellowjellow and attributed it to me in post #2727.

I don't really care about your views about the xitter either. Its very problematic but there are still lots of legit sources posting there first. So you can whine all you want and attack the messenger, you can't debate the issues.

Israel has been militarily occupying Palestine for 54 years.
In that time they have continued to take more and more Palestinian land by force.
No round of violence has done anything but prep for the next round of violence.
Israel rules through apartheid and is no committing genocide.

 

mellowjello

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Can you please show us the gas chambers that Israel has constructed?
No, Holocaust 2.0 is new and improved, just bombing the shit out of everyone and everything, hospitals, schools, cutting off water, power, fuel, medical help, so much more humane.
 

richaceg

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No, the only land that colonial Britain gave to them was the UN sanction partition borders of 1947.
Everything beyond those lines is land acquired through war, which is a war crime. Nothing else is legal.
You have any source? or this is more BS?
 

shack

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No, Holocaust 2.0 is new and improved, just bombing the shit out of everyone and everything, hospitals, schools, cutting off water, power, fuel, medical help, so much more humane.
I didn't think you'd understand the difference.

All of this was caused by the Oct. 7 attack.

Even frank admitted: EVERYONE KNEW THAT THIS WOULD HAPPEN. Hamas intentionally brought this onto the people under whose rule they live.
 
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Frankfooter

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Wrong again.

I am intent on displaying over and over how you support the Oct. 7 attack on civilians and since you admitted that you knew Israel would retaliate causing death and suffering to Gazans, that you wholeheartedly support that outcome. I am intent on blaming you for creating an inordinate and unwanted amount of venom being spewed on TERB as canada man displayed. That is your sole contribution to the board.
You and Israel both knew that Hamas would respond to the 233 settler terrorist attacks this year followed by settlers storming the Al Aqsa. You knew that Israel has not held peace talks for a decade and is still stealing Palestinian land. You knew that Hamas would eventually respond. Your only beef is that they got outside of the fences for once and, like Israel does constantly, targeted civilians. You know that Israeli terrorism is far worse and kills far more civilians. You know all this and still blame Hamas.

You know Israel is apartheid and keep trying to deny it.
You know your views are those of a small minority and that 80% of Canadians want both sides held to the same international laws.

You know all this and still try to blame Hamas.

You know you don't represent the majority of Jewish Canadians.
You know most Jewish Canadians support peace.
You know that you are supporting what Jewish Currents calls 'genocide'.

A Textbook Case of Genocide
Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?
 

richaceg

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Find me a UN statement that says otherise.
The only UN land agreement was the 1947 partition plan.
You claim they took land committing war crimes in the process yet you can't produce any source...
 

shack

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You and Israel both knew that Hamas would respond to the 233 settler terrorist attacks this year
You justify Oct. 7.

As such, you approve of what's happening to Gazans now. You are not entitled to complain about it now since you have admitted that you approved the Oct. 7 attack.

BTW, the Hamas attack was an attack by the STATE. They are the ruling party.

Settlers are rogues and have nothing to do with the ruling party. They acted on their own.

Any rational person knows that those things are not analogous. I guess that leaves you out.
 

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You justify Oct. 7.

As such, you approve of what's happening to Gazans now. You are not entitled to complain about it now since you have admitted that you approved the Oct. 7 attack.

BTW, the Hamas attack was an attack by the STATE. They are the ruling party.

Settlers are rogues and have nothing to do with the ruling party. They acted on their own.

Any rational person knows that those things are not analogous. I guess that leaves you out.
No, shack.
I've been arguing here for years for the end of apartheid and the establishment of a one state solution with equal rights.
I've been pushing for peace, you've been backing the ongoing, violent colonization of Palestine by a group of religious zealots.

Settlers are enacting Israeli state policy.
They are committing terrorism with IDF soldiers backing them up.

From the Israeli human rights organization, B'tselem.



 
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mellowjello

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I didn't think you'd understand the difference.

All of this was caused by the Oct. 7 attack.

Even frank admitted: EVERYONE KNEW THAT THIS WOULD HAPPEN. Hamas intentionally brought this onto the people under whose rule they live.
I know shack, I know, you don't give a fuck.
It sounds like a mantra, you'd make a great settler in the West Bank, screaming at Palestinians all bugger eyed that it's all their fault that you're stealing their land and homes under their noses. And If they try and stop you, Israeli soldiers will shoot them.
What a beacon of light to the world.
You can sleep well at night.
 
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shack

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No, shack.
I've been arguing here for years
Anything other than discuss what happened on Oct. 7, which initiated the current reprisals which are causing death and suffering of Gazans.

You support Oct. 7. You support killing Gazans. There is no other conclusion to be had.
 

mellowjello

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Given his level of knowledge on these issues we can reasonably assume he sleeps a lot.
I don't think it's an issue of knowledge, I think it's an issue of not giving a fuck.
Thank goodness most Jews don't agree with him and many are on the front lines, risking life, reputation, job security as the machine tries to shut them down and marginalize them. If it weren't for them people might see all Jews as vile, and hateful, and hypocritical as the ones that justify the abysmal treatment and destruction of a people.
We get labeled as anti-Semitic, they get labeled as self hating.
There's no escaping the wrath.
 

richaceg

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UN 194
UN 2253
UN 2535
UN 2792
UN 3236
UN 3120
UN 3329

There are so many more.
Read the list, check to see if you can find one single resolution that says Israel's occupation of anything past the 1947 partition borders is legal.

This was the sublink to your own link Franky....
Like I said before....Hamas does not represent the Palestinian people....Palestinians are the victims in this never ending search for a dream that "the earth will be cleansed of Jews"....
Funny how during the Palestinian war, Palestinians and Jews mirror the tragedy as jews were displaced from most Arab countries....Palestinians can ask their arab brothers..."WTF happened?"


The war had two main phases, the first being the 1947–1948 civil war, which began on 30 November 1947,[19] a day after the United Nations voted to adopt the Partition Plan for Palestine, which divided the territory into Jewish and Arab sovereign states, and an international Jerusalem (UN Resolution 181). Partition was accepted by the Jewish leadership, but rejected by Palestinian Arab leaders and the Arab states.[20] This phase of the war is described by historians as the "civil", "ethnic" or "intercommunal" war, as it was fought mainly between Jewish and Palestinian Arab militias, supported by the Arab Liberation Army and the surrounding Arab states. Characterised by guerrilla warfare and terrorism, it escalated at the end of March 1948 when the Jews went on the offensive and concluded with their defeating the Palestinians in major campaigns and battles, establishing clear frontlines. During this period the British still maintained a declining rule over Palestine and occasionally intervened in the violence.[21][22]

The British terminated the Mandate at midnight at the end of 14 May 1948. On that day, the last remaining British troops and personnel departed the city of Haifa and the Jewish leadership in Palestine declared the establishment of the State of Israel. This was followed the next day by the invasion of Palestine by the surrounding Arab armies and expeditionary forces.

The invasion marked the beginning of the second phase of the war, the 1948 Arab–Israeli War. The Egyptians advanced on the southern coastal strip and were halted near Ashdod; the Jordanian Arab Legion and Iraqi forces captured the central highlands of Palestine.
Syria and Lebanon fought several skirmishes with the Israeli forces in the north. The Jewish militias, organised into the Israel Defense Forces, managed to halt the Arab forces. The following months saw fierce fighting between the IDF and the Arab armies, which were being slowly pushed back. The Jordanian and Iraqi armies managed to maintain control over most of the central highlands of Palestine and capture East Jerusalem, including the Old City. Egypt's occupation zone was limited to the Gaza Strip and a small pocket surrounded by Israeli forces at Al-Faluja. In October and December 1948, Israeli forces crossed into Lebanese territory and pushed into Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, encircling the Egyptian forces near Gaza City. The last military activity happened in March 1949, when Israeli forces captured the Negev desert and reached the Red Sea. In 1949, Israel signed separate armistices with Egypt on 24 February, Lebanon on 23 March, Transjordan on 3 April, and Syria on 20 July. During this period the flight and expulsion of the Palestinian Arabs continued



During the war, around 700,000 Palestinian Arabs were displaced and most of their urban areas were destroyed. Many Palestinian Arabs ended up stateless, displaced either to the Palestinian territories captured by Egypt and Jordan or to the surrounding Arab states; many of them, as well as their descendants, remain stateless and in refugee camps.

In the three years following the war, about 700,000 Jews immigrated to Israel from Europe and Arab lands, with one third of them having left or been expelled from their countries of residence in the Middle East.[23][24][25] These refugees were absorbed into Israel in the One Million Plan.
 
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