Israel at war

Frankfooter

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I don't think it's an issue of knowledge, I think it's an issue of not giving a fuck.
Thank goodness most Jews don't agree with him and many are on the front lines, risking life, reputation, job security as the machine tries to shut them down and marginalize them. If it weren't for them people might see all Jews as vile, and hateful, and hypocritical as the ones that justify the abysmal treatment and destruction of a people.
We get labeled as anti-Semitic, they get labeled as self hating.
There's no escaping the wrath.
I totally agree.

Without the good people of IfNotNow, IJVCanada, B'tselem, Jewish Voices for Peace and other progressive Jewish groups making themselves heard the only voices of the Jewish people would be the hatemongers like shack and that would lead to massive increases in antisemitism.

 
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richaceg

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Thanks for confirming that the only legal, UN sanctioned borders, are still those of the 1947 Partition.
Everything else, as you noted, is land acquired through war, which is a war crime.
war started by who?
 
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toguy5252

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It's not a tactic, it's reality.
Funny how you minimize Israel war crimes as just "policies".
You are either totally clued out as to what's been going on prior to the attack or you just don't give a fuck.
I can't believe anyone who knows what's going on could respond like you.
Once again, even the vast majority of Israeli Jews hold their own government responsible.
To say Israel's policies have nothing to do with the massacre is as ignorant a thing as I've heard.
The barbarity of Hamas was certainly not motivated by anything Israel did or dit not do but rather to destroying Israel and Jews.

nit sure what the point of responding to you when you ignore what I say. Please point to something, anything I have said that justifies anything that Israel has done. But whatever they have done it is ludicrous and insulting to suggest some moral equivalency.
 

mellowjello

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The barbarity of Hamas was certainly not motivated by anything Israel did or dit not do but rather to destroying Israel and Jews.
I know they hate Jews, but if it were Swedes doing this to them they would hate Swedes.
There were no problems between Jews and Palestinians living together before 1948.
Sorry man, there's no middle ground here.
If you really believe this it's totally pointless.
 

Frankfooter

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The barbarity of Hamas was certainly not motivated by anything Israel did or dit not do but rather to destroying Israel and Jews.

nit sure what the point of responding to you when you ignore what I say. Please point to something, anything I have said that justifies anything that Israel has done. But whatever they have done it is ludicrous and insulting to suggest some moral equivalency.
Hamas?
Israel is way more vicious.

 

toguy5252

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I know they hate Jews, but if it were Swedes doing this to them they would hate Swedes.
There were no problems between Jews and Palestinians living together before 1948.
Sorry man, there's no middle ground here.
If you really believe this it's totally pointless.
so you are saying that he massacre wouldn’t have happened if Israel had never existed. That is what you are referring to as pre 1948?
 

Klatuu

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so you are saying that he massacre wouldn’t have happened if Israel had never existed. That is what you are referring to as pre 1948?
This is what he believes. Succeeding at pushing Palestinians into the sea. And he boasts about it.

gryfin;4863205 said:
Actually, it's Israel's Jews that are being the fed the dream of pushing Palestinians into the sea. The fantasy of a Jewish only Israel is the wet dream of Zionism. And they've been trying to do it for more than 50 years.
toguy5252;4863211 said:
LOL. Trying? You mean succeeding. You are a funny clown. Always pathetic and increasingly desperate and silly. Keep up the good work.
 
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richaceg

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Who cares?
It doesn't make land acquisition by war any less of a war crime.
You don't care about peace? you don't care that surrounding Arab countries are responsible for the Palestinians sufferings? All you care about is to tow the line that Israel needs to be "sent to the Hague"....
-Partition was accepted by the Jewish leadership, but rejected by Palestinian Arab leaders and the Arab states

-it was fought mainly between Jewish and Palestinian Arab militias, supported by the Arab Liberation Army and the surrounding Arab states
- This was followed the next day by the invasion of Palestine by the surrounding Arab armies and expeditionary forces.
-The invasion marked the beginning of the second phase of the war, the 1948 Arab–Israeli War. The Egyptians advanced on the southern coastal strip and were halted near Ashdod; the Jordanian Arab Legion and Iraqi forces captured the central highlands of Palestine
- Many Palestinian Arabs ended up stateless, displaced either to the Palestinian territories captured by Egypt and Jordan or to the surrounding Arab states; many of them, as well as their descendants, remain stateless and in refugee camps.
 
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xmontrealer

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You and Israel both knew that Hamas would respond to the 233 settler terrorist attacks this year followed by settlers storming the Al Aqsa.

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And you know Frankfooter, that the Oct. 7 attack was being planned for months before the Al Aqsa incident, and that the attack was formally approved by Iran at least a week before.

Hamas had anticipated the Al Aqsa incident, based on prior year's incidents, and chose to use it as a justification for an attack on Israel that was unprecedented in its viciousness and inhumanity.

How can you expect to have your posts taken seriously when you won't accept and acknowledge a simple truth?

And if we're gonna use songs, here's one that's appropriate:

 
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Not getting younger

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You don't care about peace? you don't care that surrounding Arab countries are responsible for the Palestinians sufferings? All you care about is to tow the line that Israel needs to be "sent to the Hague"....
-Partition was accepted by the Jewish leadership, but rejected by Palestinian Arab leaders and the Arab states

-it was fought mainly between Jewish and Palestinian Arab militias, supported by the Arab Liberation Army and the surrounding Arab states
- This was followed the next day by the invasion of Palestine by the surrounding Arab armies and expeditionary forces.
-The invasion marked the beginning of the second phase of the war, the 1948 Arab–Israeli War. The Egyptians advanced on the southern coastal strip and were halted near Ashdod; the Jordanian Arab Legion and Iraqi forces captured the central highlands of Palestine
- Many Palestinian Arabs ended up stateless, displaced either to the Palestinian territories captured by Egypt and Jordan or to the surrounding Arab states; many of them, as well as their descendants, remain stateless and in refugee camps.
Rich. It’s hopeless. He has his head buried so far down into the desert sand he will never see the light. And despite being spoon that instead of his twitter crap, he still won’t even read it. Nor grasp that’s not the only time.

Cant grasp that on the day. Israel celebrated and Palestinians could have too. Like many Arab countries that don’t value human life, they resorted to violence and terrorism. And have ever since. Nor does he grasp that while he argues Palestinians have the right to exist, so does Israel. Though he many times has said

Israel doesn’t have the right to exist

And where he post silly partisans memes with 1000 likes…
 

richaceg

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Rich. It’s hopeless. He has his head buried so far down into the desert sand he will never see the light.

Cant grasp that on the day. Israel celebrated and Palestinians could have too. Like many Arab countries that don’t value human life, they resorted to violence and terrorism. And have ever since. Nor does he grasp that while he argues Palestinians have the right to exist, so does Israel. Though he many times has said

Israel doesn’t have the right to exist

not even his daddy Trudeau and grandpa Biden agrees with him...
 

mellowjello

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is it a difficult question? Or are just afraid to answer?
Yea, I'm scared, now fuck off.
Pretending to have a serious discussion, meanwhile laughing and bragging about pushing Palestinians into the sea.
Not that I didn't figure it out, but now you're on record.
Are you afraid to answer to that post?
 
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