Trudeau harming relations between India and Canada?

[DesRicardo]

Trudeau has some of you guys on a wild goose chase.

This grandstanding will blow up right back in his face. I'm watching some of the clips and he's getting grilled. Don't let MSM fool you, he's looking dumb on the stand.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

The RCMP wont come out and publicly disclose such allegations if they do not have the real proof.

So they dont have proof which is what Trudeau admitted.
So why will any country entertain this?
The Americans charged someone which requires some preliminary evidence.
Trudeau hasn't.

 

[Valcazar]

See, now here's my point. The supreme court absolutely did not state it was an illegal action.

1: A federal judge said it was unjustified. This is under appeal. The supreme court has not commented.
2: Chris barber is now suing, based on the ruling from the federal judge
3: Barber and Lich's trials have wrapped up, but the judgement has not come back.

They have their narrative, they aren't going to change it for facts.

 

[maurice93]

Did you listen to Trudeau's testimony?
Trudeau specifically said there was no evidence.
Trudeau said it was primarily intelligence not hard evidentiary proof.
Listen to first 20 seconds.

Testimony at these hearings tend to take a situation start at the beginning and then move forward to the current day.

Are you sure that in that clip, he is responding to a question as the situation stands today (on October 15, 2024 after the RCMP presser) or is he responding to a question as to how the evidence was during 2023 when he rose the situation in the HOC -- or perhaps even earlier then that Because the evidence levels at the two points were different and the responses should be different. If Trudeau is responding to a question based on how things stood in 2023 instead of 2024, its extremely dishonest to then report it as a comment about the evidence levels today..

So did you listen to the whole testimony?
Are you 100% certain this was related to the situation of today and not 2023?
Or are you relying on a twitter account who would have an agenda to take a comment totally out of context. Let's be honest it happens all the time, left/right, various countries here and abroad.

As an aside, I'm neither a PP or JT stan. I just dislike comments being taken out of context.

 

[DesRicardo]

Guys, the show is over. Unless he provides the proof, this will all go nowhere. All that is left is to hope America save his ass.

He doesn't know what he's doing. He never has. If you are travelling to and from India, please be safe.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Testimony at these hearings tend to take a situation start at the beginning and then move forward to the current day.

Are you sure that in that clip, he is responding to a question as the situation stands today (on October 15, 2024 after the RCMP presser) or is he responding to a question as to how the evidence was during 2023 when he rose the situation in the HOC -- or perhaps even earlier then that Because the evidence levels at the two points were different and the responses should be different. If Trudeau is responding to a question based on how things stood in 2023 instead of 2024, its extremely dishonest to then report it as a comment about the evidence levels today..

So did you listen to the whole testimony?
Are you 100% certain this was related to the situation of today and not 2023?
Or are you relying on a twitter account who would have an agenda to take a comment totally out of context. Let's be honest it happens all the time, left/right, various countries here and abroad.

So what is different today?

 

[DesRicardo]

And don't let him fool you on National security. Trudeau is the one that let Nijjar's killers in the country. On student visas may I add.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nijjar-killing-arrests-made-1.7192807

 

[maurice93]

So what is different today?

The RCMP in October 2024 explicitly stated they had been obtaining evidence and proof.

Did the RCMP make that pronouncement in 2023 or earlier? Over time info is gathered. It's not just gathered on one date. That should be obvious.

If somebody asks a question on the evidence situation in 2023 (or before), and it is then reported as how the person sees the evidence situation as of today, how can that not be anything but dishonest?

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

The RCMP in October 2024 explicitly stated they had been obtaining evidence and proof.

Did the RCMP make that pronouncement in 2023 or earlier? Over time info is gathered. It's not just gathered on one date. That should be obvious.

If somebody asks you a question on the situation in 2023 (or before), and you then report it as how the person sees the situation as of today, how can that not be anything but dishonest?

Its different things.
The 2023 allegation was about the Sikh guy's shooting.
The 2024 statement is about proof of Indian government involvement in criminal activities.
You are mixing up the two.
In either case no proof has been shared with anyone.
Trudeau seems hell bent on exposing the CPC and their connections with India more than anything else.

 

[Frankfooter]

Its different things.
The 2023 allegation was about the Sikh guy's shooting.
The 2024 statement is about proof of Indian government involvement in criminal activities.
You are mixing up the two.
In either case no proof has been shared with anyone.
Trudeau seems hell bent on exposing the CPC and their connections with India more than anything else.

Trudeau is doing what he's supposed to do, investigate foreign interference and obey the secrecy laws.
His statements are under oath, if he's lying he could go to jail for it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-release-names-poilievre-security-clearance-1.7355350

 

[silentkisser]

The story goes that he applied for refugee status in the 90s and was denied.
Then he was denied a 2nd time due to fraud.
Then eventually became citizen in 2007.
You are painting him as if he was a law abiding good citizen of Canada.
He was not. If he was so good why did he allegedly lead a militant group in Canada? Is that not illegal?
That doesn't mean India gets a license to kill but there are 3 sides to every story.
Trudeau's motives here are questionable.

I think you miss the key point here: HE WAS ASSASSINATED IN CANADA BY A FOREIGN POWER! It doesn't matter that it took time for his citizenship. It doesn't matter that he was doing something that pissed off the Indian government, but did not violate Canadian law. It doesn't matter if he is leading an alleged "militant group." The bottom line here is that he was murdered by a decree from India.

The excuses and denial reek of one of two things: Either your hatred of Trudeau has clouded your view, or you just don't care that a brown person was murdered. Hell, maybe it's a bit of both. And, for you questioning what happened, like this is something the Liberals made up...this is really going to blow your fucking mind:

U.S. charges Indian government employee in foiled murder-for-hire plot - National | Globalnews.ca

The charges come days after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and police officials went public with allegations that Indian diplomats were targeting Sikh separatists in Canada.

globalnews.ca

 

[DesRicardo]

I think you miss the key point here: HE WAS ASSASSINATED IN CANADA BY A FOREIGN POWER! It doesn't matter that it took time for his citizenship. It doesn't matter that he was doing something that pissed off the Indian government, but did not violate Canadian law. It doesn't matter if he is leading an alleged "militant group." The bottom line here is that he was murdered by a decree from India.

The excuses and denial reek of one of two things: Either your hatred of Trudeau has clouded your view, or you just don't care that a brown person was murdered. Hell, maybe it's a bit of both. And, for you questioning what happened, like this is something the Liberals made up...this is really going to blow your fucking mind:

U.S. charges Indian government employee in foiled murder-for-hire plot - National | Globalnews.ca

The charges come days after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and police officials went public with allegations that Indian diplomats were targeting Sikh separatists in Canada.

globalnews.ca

What you fail to understand is there is no proof presented to solidify this claim.

Are you expecting India to be like "OK, fine you got us."?

LIke I said earlier, America has video evidence, Canada has a list.

 

[richaceg]

Trudeau is doing what he's supposed to do, investigate foreign interference and obey the secrecy laws.
His statements are under oath, if he's lying he could go to jail for it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-release-names-poilievre-security-clearance-1.7355350

Then why is he implicating Peepee when this was under his watch? His pedaling back when Peepee called him out to release the names...all he has is grandstanding and throwing shit hoping one will stick...well nothing has stuck...he's still not improving his numbers and he's not looking good as the day goes by...

 

[boobtoucher]

What you fail to understand is there is no proof presented to solidify this claim.

Are you expecting India to be like "OK, fine you got us."?

LIke I said earlier, America has video evidence, Canada has a list.

Hurrr durrr TURD-o isn't sharing top seekert information in public, even though it would make him look good. Uh, he must be lying guys. I mean, Mein Fuhrievre told me that he's lying, so I'm going to believe that. And it's not like other countries are ALSO presenting evidence that India is engaging in influence operations.

PP says I can be mad, so I'm going to do that. Bad Turdo made me try and not kill my neighbours. He's Hitler now.

 

[Frankfooter]

Then why is he implicating Peepee when this was under his watch? His pedaling back when Peepee called him out to release the names...all he has is grandstanding and throwing shit hoping one will stick...well nothing has stuck...he's still not improving his numbers and he's not looking good as the day goes by...

PeePee is the problem, he's compromise and can't get clearance, nor can he release the names because he's on the list.

 

[DesRicardo]

Hurrr durrr TURD-o isn't sharing top seekert information in public, even though it would make him look good. Uh, he must be lying guys. I mean, Mein Fuhrievre told me that he's lying, so I'm going to believe that. And it's not like other countries are ALSO presenting evidence that India is engaging in influence operations.

PP says I can be mad, so I'm going to do that. Bad Turdo made me try and not kill my neighbours. He's Hitler now.

Well apparently his top secret information isn't enough to sway India or formally charge any representative.

This is a wild goose chase and Trudeau's only hope is America can save him.

And somehow it's all Poilievre's fault.

 

[silentkisser]

What you fail to understand is there is no proof presented to solidify this claim.

Are you expecting India to be like "OK, fine you got us."?

LIke I said earlier, America has video evidence, Canada has a list.

Here's the thing: The intelligence they shared with India is probably pretty damning, but gives them the ability to disavow what happened. They could have said it was a rogue agent or something, quietly appolgized, and we probably wouldn't hear any more of it. Trudeau was trying to keep it on the down low, but the Globe got the story and was going to publish it....so that was when Trudeau went public last year. The RCMP has flushed out more info and details about the plot....


Also, we will likely not get the information about what exactly what this intelligence is or what it says, but we do know the Five Eyes helped develop the intel. We also know that the UK supports Canada in this. Which means they believe India did something. Heck, they might have been the source of the intelligence. The fact that they also tried to assassinate someone on US soil gives Trudeau's claims a hell of a lot more power. I mean, if India would risk doing that in the US, they sure as fuck would do it in Canada (or the UK/Australia).

 

[boobtoucher]

Well apparently his top secret information isn't enough to sway India or formally charge any representative.

This is a wild goose chase and Trudeau's only hope is America can save him.

And somehow it's all Poilievre's fault.

I hope you're warming up properly before all this effort to bend the narrative.

What's that thing that diplomats have? The thing that would prevent a country from charging them? Diplomatic Resistance to Being Charged? Something like that.

What is diplomatic immunity, which India refused to waive for expelled agents? - National | Globalnews.ca

Although diplomatic immunity is meant to be reciprocal between countries, it also means diplomats may never face accountability for alleged criminal actions on foreign soil.

globalnews.ca

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Literally all we could do is expel them. Which we did.

 

[DesRicardo]

Here's the thing: The intelligence they shared with India is probably pretty damning, but gives them the ability to disavow what happened. They could have said it was a rogue agent or something, quietly appolgized, and we probably wouldn't hear any more of it. Trudeau was trying to keep it on the down low, but the Globe got the story and was going to publish it....so that was when Trudeau went public last year. The RCMP has flushed out more info and details about the plot....


Also, we will likely not get the information about what exactly what this intelligence is or what it says, but we do know the Five Eyes helped develop the intel. We also know that the UK supports Canada in this. Which means they believe India did something. Heck, they might have been the source of the intelligence. The fact that they also tried to assassinate someone on US soil gives Trudeau's claims a hell of a lot more power. I mean, if India would risk doing that in the US, they sure as fuck would do it in Canada (or the UK/Australia).

Jesus. No country would every admit and try to apologize for assassinating your citizen.

Don't forget, these are diplomats they are trying to investigate. They are not ordinary visitors, which is why all this fell apart on Oct 13 and Trudeau is trying to save face. This isn't the only national security issues, it's just the deadliest.

The RCMP won't flush much more imo, it's really all up to America. But they have their own interest which is why the America-India investigation is going much smoother.

 

[DesRicardo]

I hope you're warming up properly before all this effort to bend the narrative.

What's that thing that diplomats have? The thing that would prevent a country from charging them? Diplomatic Resistance to Being Charged? Something like that.

What is diplomatic immunity, which India refused to waive for expelled agents? - National | Globalnews.ca

Although diplomatic immunity is meant to be reciprocal between countries, it also means diplomats may never face accountability for alleged criminal actions on foreign soil.

globalnews.ca

.

Literally all we could do is expel them. Which we did.

I know this. That's why this is a wild goose chase. GET IT NOW???