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Danielle Smith turns her back on Canada...

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“I think it’s right for Premier Smith to push back and say … ‘We don’t want to have just a policy that is at the expense of Alberta for the benefit of everybody else,’” he added.

That said, it’s highly unlikely she’ll be able to refuse or fight a federal order, as the majority of oil ceases to be owned by the province once it’s out of the ground.

Even if it was, Leach said the courts are clear that international trade is entirely within federal jurisdiction.

“What the federal government would be doing in this case would be an export tariff or an export quota of some sort, and that wouldn’t exempt provincial-owned resources, whether they were in a pipeline, on a truck, on a train,” Leach explained.
Stupid B*tch. There is no way around this, you have to work with Canada.

When you are a bigger separatist than Quebec, you need to take a hard look in the mirror.....That's assuming she has a reflection.
 

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This entire episode is probably a wake up call to Canada.
When we depend and rely on one trade partner.
All it takes is for someone unqualified to come to power on a platform of racism and divisive politics.
Canada needs its own industries, needs to militarize, and become more dynamic and self reliant.
Not to mention expand trade relations with other parts of the world.
It is like we put all our eggs in one basket and we are now scrambling because we never thought this could ever happen.
 

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Aren't you the timid and loyal quisling. lmao.
This entire episode is probably a wake up call to Canada.
When we depend and rely on one trade partner.
All it takes is for someone unqualified to come to power on a platform of racism and divisive politics.
Canada needs its own industries, needs to militarize, and become more dynamic and self reliant.
Not to mention expand trade relations with other parts of the world.
It is like we put all our eggs in one basket and we are now scrambling because we never thought this could ever happen.
Racism and divisive politics, lol....You forgot your misinformation and disinformation buzzwords BS.
 
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Ford is no conservative, hes financially illiterate. What an idiot, printing more money will only cause further inflation and decimate the economy.
 
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JohnLarue

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Alberta govts have sent most of its wealth to the USA and passed crumbs on to the population that are told they are soooo fucking lucky to be in AB, Now shut up and go work in the freezing, toxic oil fields and be glad you have a job. lol.
you are just strange

one post you claim everyone is moving to the magical EVs
the next post you want to spend hundreds billions of other peoples dollars for a strategic oil reserve , despite Canada having the 3rd largest reserves in the World (too bad for you Trudeau killed Energy east)
and now you are back to the ecowarrior blither
a posting clown show

and you wonder why there is no team Canada approach when your lot is in power
time to fess up and admit how grossly flawed your views / ideals are
 
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JohnLarue

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That is GDP not income. How much do Albertans actually get? How well is it distributed? Albertas child poverty rate is 17% inspite of all that easy wealth. Why? Probably becuase of how people are jerked around on every boom bust cycle.
Alberta can handle the booms and bust of commodity prices, they know and understand the nature of the energy business far better than you
what they can not withstand is any more of the Trudeau family
 
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PeePee certainly has the common sense to hide out in his massive taxpayer-financed mansion and say fuck-all to piss off the vast majority of Canadian Tory voters who now hate Trump and also the 25% Tory base like you and Mitch who worship Trump and kiss his ass.

Basically, the longer this Trump bullshit continues, the more painfully PeePee gets fucked in the ass. Moe and Duggo have already sided with the Libs. And Carney's going to jump on the "Canada's not for sale" bandwagon and boost his cred while PeeBoy hides out and becomes more and more irrelevant in his own fucking country and party.
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what color is the sky in your strange world ?
 
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That is GDP not income. How much do Albertans actually get? How well is it distributed? Albertas child poverty rate is 17% inspite of all that easy wealth. Why? Probably becuase of how people are jerked around on every boom bust cycle.
Also we have to realize that Alberta has failed to invest for the future. They are not capable of refining all the Bitumen Oil that they extract.
No wonder that a nation like Norway that has a similar population as Alberta had savings in 2017 of $1 Trillion. Alberta was a mere $17 Billion!!
One critical reason was this:

“Norway realized revenues of $87.69 per barrel in 2013. Alaska managed $38.54. And Alberta? Just $4.38 — one-twentieth what our Norwegian cousins managed to rake in,” Anderson wrote.

Not surprising that just giving away large proportions of their revenues in tax cuts mainly to the elitists in the end just does not trigger the economy, especially in dire times!!
 

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Canada needs its own industries, needs to militarize, and become more dynamic and self reliant.
Not to mention expand trade relations with other parts of the world.
It is like we put all our eggs in one basket and we are now scrambling because we never thought this could ever happen.
As far as Albertan oil exports go putting (almost) all eggs in one basket is
not as serious a problem if that basket is Canada. Had we built the infrasctures
needed to transport oil from western to eastern Canada gasoline gluttons in
Ontario and Quebec could easily absorb a substantial fraction of total oil exports
to the U.S. And if only we had the political will to build the pipelines and LNG ports
required to transport and process Albertan natural gas for energy export to Europe
we could help Europe to alleviate Trump's threat of buying more U.S. LNG to avoid
facing heavy tariff. But Trudeau's response to Scholz's appeal for Canada LNG
exports was to suggest Germany to switch to hydrogen from natural gas.

Now is the time to rethink over-dependence of Canada's energy export
on the U.S.
 

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Ghawar
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No wonder that a nation like Norway that has a similar population as Alberta had savings in 2017 of $1 Trillion. Alberta was a mere $17 Billion!!
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Norway's oil business is easier to run and manage. They don't seem to
have their counterpart of Steven Guilbeault to impose zero-emission selectively
on oil sector. Their small population means they can consume all of its energy
output and export the surplus to friendly Europe. They are one of the few nations
in the west that is totally energy independent. In (eastern) Canada we prefer to consume oil imported from Saudi Arabia and Iran in the. That makes us vulnerable
to Trump's tariff threats.
 

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Norway's oil business is easier to run and manage. They don't seem to
have their counterpart of Steven Guilbeault to impose zero-emission selectively
on oil sector. Their small population means they can consume all of its energy
output and export the surplus to friendly Europe. They are one of the few nations
in the west that is totally energy independent. In (eastern) Canada we prefer to consume oil imported from Saudi Arabia and Iran in the. That makes us vulnerable
to Trump's tariff threats.
Norway was one of the first countries to introduce the Carbon Tax in 2008!!
So I'm not sure where you are going with this "Stevan Guilbeault" BS?
It is on course to be Zero Carbon Emission by 2030. So get your facts right!!
They have around the same population as Alberta. Their Mongstad Refinery has a refined oil surplus of 4 times their consumption!!
Hence they can export to other Nations. The problem in Canada is the lack of refineries and hence we are dependant on exporting the crude oil to the USA and then importing their refined oil!!
Alberta should have invested more heavily in that refinery sector!!
 

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what an idiot Trudeau is.
he's bragging about taxpayers spending $34 billion dollars on a pipeline that sold for $4.5 B and $4.5 B was too much then
it it had not been for him Canada would have had at least 2 or 3 pipelines at zero cost to the taxpayer
including the energy east pipeline
if energy east had been built, Canada would have energy leverage on Trump and Alberta would play along as they would still have a market for their oil

Trudeau implemented the Gerald Butts plan instead
what an idiot
 
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JohnLarue

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Norway's oil business is easier to run and manage. They don't seem to
have their counterpart of Steven Guilbeault to impose zero-emission selectively
on oil sector. Their small population means they can consume all of its energy
output and export the surplus to friendly Europe. They are one of the few nations
in the west that is totally energy independent. In (eastern) Canada we prefer to consume oil imported from Saudi Arabia and Iran in the. That makes us vulnerable
to Trump's tariff threats.
actually Canada gets most of its imported oil from the US
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this why an oil embargo wont work
if western Canadian oil is denied to the US, he will just cut off exports to eastern Canada

too bad for Canada Justin Trudeau killed energy east
(eastern) Canada could have had all the oil it needs
what an idiot
 
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