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Trump slams Zelensky, calling him a dictator and blaming him for starting the war

boobtoucher

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Its ok to object, refuse, cut of oil and power, boot out the ambassador. threaten etc, but if they send an invasion force to call our bluff, then its time to negotiate a peace before the shooting starts. I don't wanna be American, I will accept being 15-20% poorer to avoid being American, but not being wiped out or in a war. I can live with being American I think, esp if we can negotiate a favorable annexation and 51-57 states and maybe have Canada manage some of our sacred cows like healthcare, ourselves.
Then Fucking Leave Now. If you think trump will consider us anything other than North Puerto Rico, you're delusional. No Voting, resource extraction only. Have to wipe out "radical Canadian Lefties" so their "socialism" doesn't spread to the USA.

As all these Tough Guy Conservatives love to say: Freedom Ain't Free. Except Nottyboi. He wants freedom, as long as it doesn't involve any kind of sacrifice. If I've gotta work for it, you might as well just take it from me.

Me, a soy-boy lefty: I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
 

richaceg

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Should foreign countries send in military and economic aid in
billions to embolden us to object to Trump's attempt to annex
Canada?
If UN and NATO can't even offer anything to Ukraine who is at war, what makes you think the EU / NATO /UN will cough up anything for Canada? and no, US won't invade Canada, they will go the economic way....
 

squeezer

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If UN and NATO can't even offer anything to Ukraine who is at war, what makes you think the EU / NATO /UN will cough up anything for Canada? and no, US won't invade Canada, they will go the economic way....
and you will support Trumputin and bow at his feet as he attempts to create an economic war on Canada. Traitor, apply for your green card and be done with it.
 

kherg007

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It's like Putin wrote Trumps words.
 
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richaceg

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and you will support Trumputin and bow at his feet as he attempts to create an economic war on Canada. Traitor, apply for your green card and be done with it.
What type of economic war are you talking about? Tariff is no different from Joe Biden killing the Keystone Pipeline...
 
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Anbarandy

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My favorite Zelensky joke, "We will take back Crimea" .....
My favorite Putin Feb 2022 joke: "This will be a 3-day SMO to denazify, decapitate and bring Ukraine back home to mother Russia."

My favorite Putin Feb 2025 joke: "This has been a 1100-day and counting SMO to achieve our Feb 2022 3-day SMO."
 

boobtoucher

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If UN and NATO can't even offer anything to Ukraine who is at war, what makes you think the EU / NATO /UN will cough up anything for Canada? and no, US won't invade Canada, they will go the economic way....
Boy, you really are in an information silo.

NATO is an alliance. It's not an army in and of itself. Anything a member-nation contributes to Ukraine could be said to be coming from NATO. Same goes for the UN.

Ukraine isn't a NATO member. NATO is in a position where they are helping (for their own interests), but don't want a full scale conflict with Russia (for their own interest).

Canada IS a NATO member, so that would trigger article 5 of the Washington Treaty, meaning "if you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us". And Europe has lost of reasons to stop both Russia and America from becoming expansionist.

Sidebar: The Washington Treaty was signed in 1949, IN WASHINGTON DC. For the US to pretend that they are somehow outside NATO, when it was founded to protect US interests in Europe is rediculous.
 

SchlongConery

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Its ok to object, refuse, cut of oil and power, boot out the ambassador. threaten etc, but if they send an invasion force to call our bluff, then its time to negotiate a peace before the shooting starts. I don't wanna be American, I will accept being 15-20% poorer to avoid being American, but not being wiped out or in a war. I can live with being American I think, esp if we can negotiate a favorable annexation and 51-57 states and maybe have Canada manage some of our sacred cows like healthcare, ourselves.

Ahhhhh... so you are a cowardly Russian! Your values are that anyone should fold at the hint of conflict, and then live under the boot of a Dictator than fight for your freedom like Ukrainians, Canadians and Americans.

I'd rather die fighting than give up my freedom to a tyrannical, brutal, vengeful narcissistic kleptocrat. That includes both Putin and Trump.
 
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SchlongConery

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Sidebar: The Washington Treaty was signed in 1949, IN WASHINGTON DC. For the US to pretend that they are somehow outside NATO, when it was founded to protect US interests in Europe is rediculous.

This is not emphasized enough. Russia IS THE sole reason NATO was founded. To protect against these barbaric fuckwads. Almost 75 years later it remains true. Last time they failed, the west foolishly let its guard down for almost 30 years. Except for the countries like Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia who had fifty years to get to know the real Russian mind and have been working to prepared for their rearmamement and continuation of their natural lizard brains. And sure enough, they ttacked other countries not affiliatied with NATO. Ukraine saw the writing on the wall and tried to get in NATO because they knew it was only a matter of time until the fucking Russians were going to revert back to their true selves.
 
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nottyboi

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Ahhhhh... so you are a cowardly Russian! Your values are that anyone should fold at the hint of conflict, and then live under the boot of a Dictator than fight for your freedom like Ukrainians, Canadians and Americans.

I'd rather die fighting than give up my freedom to a tyrannical, brutal, vengeful narcissistic kleptocrat. That includes both Putin and Trump.
You would die to avoid being richer? Trump is gone in 4 years, his power will wane in 2, and you will die for that? You are about as dumb as I thought you were. 🤣👍
 

squeezer

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What type of economic war are you talking about? Tariff is no different from Joe Biden killing the Keystone Pipeline...
I hope if he implements tariffs you are put out of work. It's nothing personal but any Canadian who still supports Trumputin deserves what a traitor asks for.
 
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nottyboi

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Then Fucking Leave Now. If you think trump will consider us anything other than North Puerto Rico, you're delusional. No Voting, resource extraction only. Have to wipe out "radical Canadian Lefties" so their "socialism" doesn't spread to the USA.

As all these Tough Guy Conservatives love to say: Freedom Ain't Free. Except Nottyboi. He wants freedom, as long as it doesn't involve any kind of sacrifice. If I've gotta work for it, you might as well just take it from me.

Me, a soy-boy lefty: I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
Who knows where it goes. Would you rather be living in Puerto Rico or Bakhmut Ukraine? It remains to be seen how this develops, but Trump has 2 years to the mid-terms so its not worth worrying about. From the collective silence of our NATO allies on the subject, we should assume we are on our own and if that is the case we should build Nukes to improve our bargaining power.
 

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Canada IS a NATO member, so that would trigger article 5 of the Washington Treaty, meaning "if you mess with one of us, you mess with all of us". And Europe has lost of reasons to stop both Russia and America from becoming expansionist.
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It would be great if some of NATO members chime in
to warn Trump against further escalation of his threat
on our sovereignty.

NATO would not stop the U.S. from invading non-NATO
countries. It would be interesting to see how it will respond
to conflicts within its organization. I now can understand
why NATO doesn't want Ukraine to be its member.
 

richaceg

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I hope if he implements tariffs you are put out of work. It's nothing personal but any Canadian who still supports Trumputin deserves what a traitor asks for.
the tariffs will actually make our business more competitive...we're a Canadian mfg. you have full blown TDS when you can't think rationale and just ramble about stuff you have zero idea.
 

boobtoucher

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It would be great if some of NATO members chime in
to warn Trump against further escalation of his threat
on our sovereignty.

NATO would not stop the U.S. from invading non-NATO
countries. It would be interesting to see how it will respond
to conflicts within its organization. I now can understand
why NATO doesn't want Ukraine to be its member.
Bro, NATO has already voted for Ukraine to become a member. In 2008.


Pooty-poots got cranky then, installed a puppet government, which got overthrown by the people of Ukraine. So then he started attacking the US via paying right wing pundits to spout his talking points. Which has been working fabulously.

And here we are...
 
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boobtoucher

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Who knows where it goes. Would you rather be living in Puerto Rico or Bakhmut Ukraine? It remains to be seen how this develops, but Trump has 2 years to the mid-terms so its not worth worrying about. From the collective silence of our NATO allies on the subject, we should assume we are on our own and if that is the case we should build Nukes to improve our bargaining power.
To paraphrase another very stupid american; "I can see America from my house". If introducing Mr. Abrams to Mr. Molotov costs me my life, I'm up for it.
 
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shack

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You would die to avoid being richer? Trump is gone in 4 years, his power will wane in 2, and you will die for that? You are about as dumb as I thought you were. 🤣👍
Glad to see you show us who you really are. We believe you.
 
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