Why are Republicans so beholden to Israel ?

[mandrill]

Exactly. Hamas killed 1200, Netanyahoo killed 60,000 and counting. They think that's fair and equitable and refuse to say the word "genocide". That jewish lobby got clout!

Assuming your figures are true - big assumption - the issue is ensuring that October 7 doesn't happen again and again and again and again. And the way you ensure that is by finishing the job and killing every last HAMAS motherfucker in Gaza and making sure they never run Gaza again.

I call it basic self defence strategy.

 

[Uwauwa]

Because Jesus was a Jew.

 

[Klatuu]

The immigrants are just new laborers, you think Americans are gonna join a war and die just because these immigrants' country is at war with another country?

Israel connects the three continents, thus geographically very important, thus having them are a key ally suits American government's interest in the Middle East, to keep peace in the region.

Beyond poorly educated.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

That's easy.
AIPAC.
They fund campaigns and help politicians get elected and in return politicians make sure the American government adopts pro-Israel policies.

 

[southpaw]

Is this a trick question?

https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/the-israel-lobby.866995/post-9003695

 

[wigglee]

If a group of bandits kill my family members, I will track them all down and kill them all, and I consider that fair as their lives are worthless dogshit to me. I don't just kill the same number of bandits as the number of my dead relatives and call it a day. I don't keep scores that way.

Israel is doing exactly that since Hamas is still holding the hostages.

There are 8 billion people in the world, you don't believe 60000 terrorists and their supporters exist?

Of course you fail to recognize that 70% of the Gazans killed were women and children, not Hamas warriors. To you they are all worthless dogshit... what does that make you???

 

[wigglee]

Assuming your figures are true - big assumption - the issue is ensuring that October 7 doesn't happen again and again and again and again. And the way you ensure that is by finishing the job and killing every last HAMAS motherfucker in Gaza and making sure they never run Gaza again.

I call it basic self defence strategy.

and I call it genocide while you quibble about the numbers of women and children slaughtered.... I guess that's the only way to feel human.

 

[BillC69]

Of course you fail to recognize that 70% of the Gazans killed were women and children, not Hamas warriors. To you they are all worthless dogshit... what does that make you???

You got your data from Gazan officials aka Hamas? The terrorists are so credible.

If your Hamas warriors cared so much about women and children, why hid at schools and hospitals instead of duking it out with IDF?

 

[dirtydaveiii]

Lessee..

• Democratic Country
• Free Elections
• A free press
• Freedom of Speech for Israeli citizens, not for subject peoples (Duh)
• A multi-religious country with Religious Freedom for Israeli citizens, not for subject peoples (Duh)
• View attachment 451524
• Support for LGBT+ (good luck Queers for Palestine)
• 31st out of 103 countries for the World Economic Forum: Inclusive Development Index
• A Western oriented country in a sea of autocratic dictatorships that screech "Death to the West".
• The right to protest without getting automatically killed
• A market based economy, ranks 28 out of 216 countries per the IMF. Globally economically competitive, 20th out of 141 countries per WEF
• An extremely educated country - Israel was ranked number 1 in the list of leading countries in the world in submitting international applications for patent registration out of the 152 member countries of the Patent Cooperation Treaty and 16th in the Global Innovation Index https://www.gov.il/en/pages/wipo
• Multiethnic society where all races & religions get to vote - they even have a political party that wants a 2 state solution as well as a Islamic Conservative party (UAL) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Israel for Israeli citizens, not for subject peoples (Duh)
• All Israeli citizens are considered equal before the law
• Human Development Index: 0.919, ranked 25th out of 189.
• Corruption Index 30th out of 180 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index
• and so on
• and so on
• and so on

You anti-Semitic wackjobs can support Hamas & Islamists all you want. Commit your histrionic national & cultural suicide all you want.
It's telling that you support and advocate for the exact opposite of us.
When push comes to shove, I'd prefer Israel beside me as an ally than any other single Arab country in the Middle East- who most likely would stab us in the back.

So why would Republicans support a country exactly opposite of what they are turning America into ? MAGA is much more akin to sharia law than it is to a great country like Canada

 

[southpaw]

A few clues...

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[Adamxx]

The immigrants are just new laborers, you think Americans are gonna join a war and die just because these immigrants' country is at war with another country?

Israel connects the three continents, thus geographically very important, thus having them are a key ally suits American government's interest in the Middle East, to keep peace in the region.

Can’t recall when last I read that there was peace in the middle east as promised by the US. (who were suppose to coordinate it).

 

[Klatuu]

A few clues...

There are approx. 700,000 Americans living in Israel.
Israel is an ally.
Israel hasn't promised to wipe another nation off the map.
Israel hasn't attacked the US or taken American hostages.
Israel doesn't support terrorist groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah.
Bonus: Israel doesn't make homosexuality a crime.

1/6. Poorly educated.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

You got your data from Gazan officials aka Hamas? The terrorists are so credible.

Given the scale of destruction in Gaza, which is now widely accepted by all (including Trump mind you), I think it is immaterial which source the numbers are from.
Whether it is genocide or not is still not adjudicated by the ICJ.
But what we do know is that even the ICC has laid out an arrest warrant for Netanyahu for war crimes.
What we also know is that Israel has gone way too far, committed several human rights violations and war crimes in Gaza.
We are no longer in the fog of war. It has been 2 years.
So the conclusion that 10s of thousands of civilians, particularly women and children have been killed, is true and no longer debatable.

 

[Frankfooter]

The region you mean Middle East?

"Primary cause" really? How about these wars, you think Muslims love each other so much?

Iran-Iraq war
Iraqi invasion of Kuwait
Syrian civil war
Libyan civil war
Yemen civil war
Sudanese civil war
Armenia-Azerbaijan war
Soviet–Afghan War
Turkey invasion of Cyrus
Pakistan-India conflict over Kashmir

Sure Israel were involved in some wars that's because Arabs kept attacking them.

Israel is presently at war with
Iran
Syria
Lebanon
Yemen
Palestine

You had to go back 100 years for that list but my list is happening today.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935610614535114826

 

[Frankfooter]

If a group of bandits kill my family members, I will track them all down and kill them all, and I consider that fair as their lives are worthless dogshit to me. I don't just kill the same number of bandits as the number of my dead relatives and call it a day. I don't keep scores that way.

Israel is doing exactly that since Hamas is still holding the hostages.

There are 8 billion people in the world, you don't believe 60000 terrorists and their supporters exist?

Your logic means that Palestinians (whose families have been killed and homes stolen) are therefore justified in tracking down zionists? And that they are justified in killing 'scores' more?

Your logic is screwed.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1936062303864033634

 

[Frankfooter]

When did Israel threaten to wipe out Lebanon?

Or Iran?....

Threats?

Israel attacked both of those countries.
You're really trying to argue that its about threats?
This is about war, about Israel's war of aggression on Palestine, Iran, Lebanon, Syria and Yemen.

This is about war, not 'threats'.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1935627930975007209

 

[Frankfooter]

Assuming your figures are true - big assumption - the issue is ensuring that October 7 doesn't happen again and again and again and again. And the way you ensure that is by finishing the job and killing every last HAMAS motherfucker in Gaza and making sure they never run Gaza again.

I call it basic self defence strategy.

Then use the IDF numbers. They have stated they think the population of Gaza is now 1.85 million which means they think 400,000 have been killed.
If you only trust Israel and the IDF, not Hamas, those are your numbers.

Israel has killed 400,000 Palestinians.

https://dataverse.harvard.edu/dataset.xhtml?persistentId=doi%3A10.7910%2FDVN%2FQB75LB&version=1.0&s=08&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKwEXtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHlywOKer9PNlXm1gD5tNyNS8iv7YLWU_6sGQT8zS9coKGvjbbntBMg_K_5Dm_aem_sX4P8uWC1IQzDJgffSBncQ

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1932254937096044949

 

[Frankfooter]

You got your data from Gazan officials aka Hamas? The terrorists are so credible.

If your Hamas warriors cared so much about women and children, why hid at schools and hospitals instead of duking it out with IDF?

The IDF says 400,000.
The lancet says its likely between 200,000 and 400,000.
The UNWRA says its likely around 200,000.

Nobody knows for sure because Israel has destroyed all the hospitals where bodies are counted, won't let in heavy machines to dig out the dead, kills the doctors who do the counting, kills the journalists who report the numbers and kills aid workers who try to bring in food and health care.

 

[Klatuu]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1936404639215149238

 

[dirtydaveiii]

A few clues...

There are approx. 700,000 Americans living in Israel.
Israel is an ally.
Israel hasn't promised to wipe another nation off the map.
Israel hasn't attacked the US or taken American hostages.
Israel doesn't support terrorist groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah.
Bonus: Israel doesn't make homosexuality a crime.

Russia has done all those things yet you support them ?