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Carney casts doubt on Canada securing a tariff-free deal with Trump

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Even without the politics, it is a waiting game and all the leaders of the world. It has only been a few months, when the fall season and Christmas rolls around we will see shortages all over. Prices will rise if the tariffs kick in. Trump thought his tariff scheme will have countries lining up to do new deals and all will be done by end of summer, much like Putin thought that he would take Ukraine in days or a week and a half at most. These plans did not materialize for these two tyrants. Now with the possibility Trump's kiddie diddling tapes might show up he has more to do than he every thought he would have.
 
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I’ll hold back the name I have in mind for you, for obvious reasons, but here’s something I do want you to chew on for a while:

Just pretend you're a cow on an Alberta farm just chewing your cud, let's continue shall we?

Does it bother you that Justin technically won again? Let that simmer in your thoughts for a minute.

He handpicked Mark Carney, and what happened? Carney absolutely wrecked your guy PeePee so badly that the man couldn’t even hang onto his own seat. That’s your hero, your saviour of the “AX THE TAX REVOLUTION,” humiliated at the finish line.

And as for Justin? Say what you want, but the guy led the country through a global pandemic, economic chaos, and a convoy full of conspiracy-addled clowns, all while keeping Canada stable and respected on the world stage. If anything, he was too soft on those lawless convoy crybabies POS.

Oh, and here's a fact that seems to trigger you types the most: Justin Trudeau served from 2015 to 2025. That’s a solid 10 years in power. Ten. Friggen Years. So if he was such an unqualified “moron,” then what does that say about the majority of Canadians who kept voting for him? Were they all “blithering ideologues” too? Or maybe just maybe you’re projecting because your side keeps losing and you can’t handle it.

ps...just leave your sour old tears in the cup once BazookaJoe is done!
hehe, Larue scoffed when I said the the Trump trade deal might turn things around. But yet he persists in thinking he knows FUCK ALL. 🤷‍♂️
 

nottyboi

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Canada should make a deal with the Chinese to license their new plasma smelter tech and use it to slaughter the US steel industry lol
 

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I’ll hold back the name I have in mind for you, for obvious reasons, but here’s something I do want you to chew on for a while:

Just pretend you're a cow on an Alberta farm just chewing your cud, let's continue shall we?

Does it bother you that Justin technically won again? Let that simmer in your thoughts for a minute.

He handpicked Mark Carney, and what happened? Carney absolutely wrecked your guy PeePee so badly that the man couldn’t even hang onto his own seat. That’s your hero, your saviour of the “AX THE TAX REVOLUTION,” humiliated at the finish line.

And as for Justin? Say what you want, but the guy led the country through a global pandemic, economic chaos, and a convoy full of conspiracy-addled clowns, all while keeping Canada stable and respected on the world stage. If anything, he was too soft on those lawless convoy crybabies POS.

Oh, and here's a fact that seems to trigger you types the most: Justin Trudeau served from 2015 to 2025. That’s a solid 10 years in power. Ten. Friggen Years. So if he was such an unqualified “moron,” then what does that say about the majority of Canadians who kept voting for him? Were they all “blithering ideologues” too? Or maybe just maybe you’re projecting because your side keeps losing and you can’t handle it.

ps...just leave your sour old tears in the cup once BazookaJoe is done!
Um, you need to step back.....

PP lost his riding due to two factors. Major one was his promise to slash the civil service. His Ottawa riding is filled with them.

Of minor as well was the flooding of the ballot sheet. This needs to be addressed.

Also Trudeau lost the popular vote the last two, and the Cons got more. So, no, not a majority of Canadians by a long shot. In fact I would say it was the pot promise and electoral reform promise that won his first majority. After the former happened those voters didn't give a shit and stopped voting again. And the latter failure cost him others.

Finally at 19% in the polls, do you really think Trudeau's opinion swayed anyone?

Just for clarity.
 
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squeezer

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Um, you need to step back.....

PP lost his riding due to two factors. Major one was his promise to slash the civil service. His Ottawa riding is filled with them.

Of minor as well was the flooding of the ballot sheet. This needs to be addressed.

Also Trudeau lost the popular vote the last two, and the Cons got more. So, no, not a majority of Canadians by a long shot. In fact I would say it was the pot promise and electoral reform promise that won his first majority. After the former happened those voters didn't give a shit and stopped voting again. And the latter failure cost him others.

Finally at 19% in the polls, do you really think Trudeau's opinion swayed anyone?

Just for clarity.
The flooding of the ballot sheets is within the rules. Just like when a dog ran for Mayor. Is it right, maybe not, but it's happened to Libs to during the by-election and Pee Pee didn't squawk when it was happening to the LIBS but now, oh no, he's all worried he might even lose the sure bet to win seat. Imagine all the tears I will be able to collect if that happens.

If the parties do not like it, then change the rule.

Secondly, Justin losing the popular vote means what exactly? Take away Alberta votes, does he still lose the popular vote? NO HE DOES NOT!!! If anything, it says a lot more about how Carney won the popular vote despite Alberta.

Thirdly, did he win, was he not the PM for 10 years or are you going down the MAGA rabbit hole claiming otherwise?

Perhaps you should step back and think about who your PM was for 10 years before Carney took over after being hand-picked by that PM that lasted 10 years.
 

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The Oracle

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Secondly, Justin losing the popular vote means what exactly? Take away Alberta votes, does he still lose the popular vote? NO HE DOES NOT!!! If anything, it says a lot more about how Carney won the popular vote despite Alberta.
Wanna play that game...Take away the GTA votes and how does Justin fare...LOL..How many times has this been pointed to to ya and you just ignore it.

Anyways Now that Carney is running Conservative policies I'm all in for the faux Liberals.

Lets Make Canada Great Again.
 

squeezer

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Wanna play that game...Take away the GTA votes and how does Justin fare...LOL..How many times has this been pointed to to ya and you just ignore it.

Anyways Now that Carney is running Conservative policies I'm all in for the faux Liberals.

Lets Make Canada Great Again.
Fine, remove Alberta and the GTA and Justin would have won the popular vote.

Now let's get to the meat and potatoes, WHO HAS BEEN PM FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS?

The Liberals garnered 33 per cent of the popular vote, less than the Conservatives’ 34 per cent

 

Valcazar

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Damn shame. How will Carney fight back, because everything seems to be a mystery with him?
Did anyone think that was possible?
Trump seemed determined to put tariffs of some kind all over the place.
The only question was how much.

And, as you say, what will Carney do in return?
 
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US customs duties top $100 billion for first time in a fiscal year
  • Summary
  • US Treasury reports small budget surplus for June
  • Gross customs duties reach $27 billion in June
  • Bessent says US 'reaping the rewards' of Trump's tariff agenda
  • Treasury chief says US tariff revenue could reach $300 billion in 2025
so what is the cost to the US ?
Inflation ?


U.S. inflation rose by 2.7% in June. How tariffs are making an impact
U.S. consumer prices picked up in June, likely marking the start of a long-anticipated tariff-induced increase in inflation that has kept the Federal Reserve cautious about resuming its interest rate cuts.


The Consumer Price Index increased 0.3 per cent last month after edging up 0.1 per cent in May, the Labor Department’s Bureau of Labor Statistics said on Tuesday. That was the largest gain since January. In the 12 months through June, the CPI advanced 2.7 per cent after rising 2.4 per cent in May.

Economists polled Reuters had forecast the CPI would climb 0.3 per cent and increase 2.6 per cent on a year-over-year basis.

Inflation readings came in on the low side in February through May, leading to demands by President Donald Trump for the U.S. central bank to lower borrowing costs. Economists said inflation has been slow to respond to the sweeping import duties Trump announced in April because businesses were still selling stock accumulated before the tariffs came into effect.

Trump last week announced higher tariffs would come into effect on August 1 for imports from a range of countries, including Mexico, Japan, Canada and Brazil, and the European Union effective August 1, raising the effective tariffs rate. Economists expect higher goods prices to prevail through the summer.

Excluding the volatile food and energy components, the CPI rose 0.2 per cent in June after edging up 0.1 per cent in the prior month. In the 12 months through June, core CPI inflation increased 2.9 per cent after rising 2.8 per cent for three straight months.


Strong price increases for goods, however, could be somewhat offset by moderate rises in services costs, and ease concerns of a broad-based rise in inflationary pressures. Soft demand has limited price increases for services-related categories like air fares as well as hotel and motel rooms.

The Fed tracks different inflation measures for its 2 per cent target. The central bank is expected to leave its benchmark overnight interest rate in the 4.25 per cent-4.50 per cent range at a policy meeting later this month. Minutes of the central bank’s June 17-18 meeting, which were published last week, showed only “a couple” of officials said they felt rates could fall as soon as the July 29-30 meeting.
oldman Sachs is forecasting monthly core CPI inflation increases of between 0.3per cent-0.4per cent over the next few months, reflecting tariff-related increases in the prices of consumer electronics, autos and apparel. The investment bank expects limited near-term impact on core services inflation.

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Goods and Services Split for U.S. Economy and S&P 500 ...
The U.S. economy is heavily weighted towards services, which make up a larger portion of GDP than goods. While the economy includes both goods and services, the services sector, encompassing areas like healthcare, finance, and technology, contributes more significantly to overall economic output and growth. This split reflects the transition of developed economies towards service-based economies.
 
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