Incompetent female cop shoots black man, mistaking taser for gun
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It's true that the cop's actions are fucked.
But it's another example where simple compliance would have avoided the altercation.
How many times does one have to see, hear, or read stories like this to know that the best course of action is to comply with a cop's lawful orders to safeguard yourself?
You're dealing with cops that might not like you and DEI women cops that shouldn't be cops in the first place. It's a potential recipe for disaster.
But it's another example where simple compliance would have avoided the altercation.
How many times does one have to see, hear, or read stories like this to know that the best course of action is to comply with a cop's lawful orders to safeguard yourself?
You're dealing with cops that might not like you and DEI women cops that shouldn't be cops in the first place. It's a potential recipe for disaster.
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When working with female coworkers in correctional facilities you are basically working alone. They are unable to meet the same physical demands as a man. I would have performed many work refusals working with women however I would have been quickly escorted to HR and out the door. Safety is the top priority only after woke policies and legislation.
Happened in 2021. Already been posted in this forum some time ago.
The cop got a 2 year sentence. Served 16 months. The mom sued and got $3.25 million, and the lady in the car sued and got $325,000.
I remember this incident...and it isn't the only time where a cop did this. I recall about 10 years ago on SF's BART system a cop did the exact same thing, went for the taser and pulled out the glock.
The major problem with policing in the US and maybe in Canada (though you don't hear of incidents like this up here very often), is that you can become a cop after like 11 weeks of training (depending on the state). They are not taught de-escalation, or if they are, it's like for half a day or something. And, you've seen the stereotype, they tend to get aggressive meatheads who love to abuse power on people...And, this leads to bad outcomes.
Cops in Canada are very well paid compared to the US... and they tend to be more professional. Sure, there are bad apples, but you don't hear of the negative interactions like you do in the US. But, I honestly think training should be longer. In Europe, they have like three years of training, and spend a lot of time on de-escalation and other ways to arrest people without hurting/killing them. In the US....that seems to be non-existent. Anyone remember Tamrr Rice? He was an 12-year old playing with a toy gun in a park. A cop raced in, didn't even tell him to drop the weapon, and shot and killed him almost instantly when they arrived on the scene.
The major problem with policing in the US and maybe in Canada (though you don't hear of incidents like this up here very often), is that you can become a cop after like 11 weeks of training (depending on the state). They are not taught de-escalation, or if they are, it's like for half a day or something. And, you've seen the stereotype, they tend to get aggressive meatheads who love to abuse power on people...And, this leads to bad outcomes.
Cops in Canada are very well paid compared to the US... and they tend to be more professional. Sure, there are bad apples, but you don't hear of the negative interactions like you do in the US. But, I honestly think training should be longer. In Europe, they have like three years of training, and spend a lot of time on de-escalation and other ways to arrest people without hurting/killing them. In the US....that seems to be non-existent. Anyone remember Tamrr Rice? He was an 12-year old playing with a toy gun in a park. A cop raced in, didn't even tell him to drop the weapon, and shot and killed him almost instantly when they arrived on the scene.
While all this may be true, none of it applies to the situation.
You have a DEI cop that got flustered under pressure despite her years of service.
Guns feel completely different from tasers. Second, at least in Canada, tasers are generally yellow to further differentiate them from the pistol which is black. Third, she wasn't even the officer physically struggling with the victim - she could have taken the split second to double check which weapon she unholstered before firing.
As an aside, it makes sense for a woman cop to be more fearful and react differently than a male cop in similar situations. Imagine knowing that, despite all your physical training, practically every single male assailant you come across can easily overpower and kill you with his bare hands and you're powerless to defend yourself without your gun.
It's always DEI with you righties. Male cops fuck up ALL THE TIME. They get flustered and panic, abuse power, shoot unarmed people, put on illegal chokeholds. This just shows your biases and ignorance. And every cops knows there is a chance they could be overpowered in any situation. Don't think male cops go into any call without thinking the worst things could happen.
The difference is that most men can do the job or at least have the physical capability to do it effectively in those dangerous situations whereas most women do not.
Physically, they might be stronger. But mentally....well, the jury is out. US cops (and some Canadian ones) are just power hungry assholes. Some fantasize about legally being allowed to shoot people. They are so gung-ho that they will gun down a child, especially a black one, in seconds instead of trying to de-escalate. The funny thing here is that you insist on bringing DEI into everything. Which, I guess means that unless a white male does it, it was done wrong. Or something like that.
This is not about everything. It's about policing. Physical strength is essential for the job.
DEI is a fact of life in order for women to become police officers.
If the NBA suddenly had a bunch of 5 foot 3 women (or men) in it, you wouldn't find the DEI statement so controversial.
Considering how many women police officers there are, and how few stories of them being overpowered in the line of duty…maybe you should consider revising your belief system.
And, I’ll remind you that DEI isn’t just blindly hiring someone because they are of a certain demographic. It’s about leveling the playing field for someone who may not have a white sounding name but all of the same credentials to do the job. Previously they might have been overlooked.
I know illiterate righties love to blame everything on DEI, like plane crashes…but it’s not like they just gave the job to somebody’s side piece and she was not a licensed pilot. And, while a certain element on the rights believes only white men are qualified, I truly hope you are not one of them.
I don't think your experience with stories should result in any revision of my beliefs.
Perhaps get more exposure.
If physical requirements are different (lowered) for female recruits, obviously they would have been passed over otherwise since few could meet the male physical standards.
I'm sorry to inform you that hiring is often very blind to fill demographic quotas.
If DEI doesn't involve changing standards, there's not much of an issue.
When standards differ, would you be in favour of lowering the male physical standards so they match the female physical standards? Why or why not?
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Equating policing in Canada with the U.S. is a false equivalency...
Friend of mines daughter decided to leave her job to become a cop in Peel Region in Canada.
As part of the physical testing she had to do the Cooper Run..So its a distance measured in 12 minutes basically..She ran 4 laps and walked the rest of the time,lol...This was in 95 I'll say..So there was a big priority to hire women..Needless to say she was hired...Moved straight to traffic...Gained about 30 lbs over the next few years...
A cop that I knew in my gym years ago told me once that the best thing about female cops was stakeouts..I just laughed when he told me that and thought to myself wow that's harsh. He really didn't even know me that well to that forthcoming.
There was two female cops in a gym that I was training at years ago that were legit..They were a couple. One was a national cross- fit champion and the other was pretty strong in the gym...The cross fit girl could squat 275lb's for sets of 8...That's decent..The other was doing DB flat bench presses with the 65's..Both were in their 30's. I'm sure they could hold their own...Other than that all the other female cops had little to no strength. They'd get owned by most in an altercation. Oh and those two female cops were both geared up..I figured with the pressures of their job it was warranted.
On a related note..There was a female fire fighter in that gym as well...About 5'10 came in around 185lb's...Strong girl...Saw her doing squats with 205lb's and she used to run the treadmill at a good clip. She was a black belt in TKD as well...I know thats useless against a properly trained opponent but just the same it shows she had determination to train..She migrated to kickboxing which is better. Anyways there was no doubt in my mind that she could carry me out of a hazardous scenario.
I was watching videos on line of the requirements to pass the fire test in Ontario...Wow have they ever dropped the standards from the 80's when my friends took it...Wouldn't take much training to pass it to be honest...It used to be a battle of the athletes. Not anymore folks.
This is mostly all your opinion and biased judgement. US law enforcement has tens of millions (upwards of 50 million) of interactions with the public each year, mostly all positive. Obviously. Quit comparing this to Canada.
You are just pandering to the left-wing/police haters here, of which there are many. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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A biased conclusion not based on fact. She is yelling taser, taser as she shot him and is in shock when she realized that she had shot him with her gun. She was in shock - I doubt that either the victim or legal ramifications were registering at that moment. It is manslaughter. I would hate to have been in the jury for this one.
