And the decay and rot will continue on. Things will continue to decline under Carney. No politician will eliminate their own job, as long as things are a total shambles government wants us to think we "need" them for salvation. Carry on Canada, Elbows Up suckers!Hmmmmm....what happened 10 years ago?
Thinking of leaving Canada. Anyone else?
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As someone who was overall happy with the direction of Canada under Chretien and Harper, I too think we've fallen off a cliff since. We've made so many dumb economic decisions, and they're catching up to us. There's a reason our GDP-per-capita growth, a fair measure of quality of life, was in lock step with the U.S. until 2015, then has stagnated ever since while the U.S. ran away with a huge lead. Many people can't grasp why life in Canada is becoming so hard and expensive, even though they voted for the policies that made it so. The fact that they re-elected the Liberals AGAIN suggests they're not close to figuring it out, either. The hole we're in is so massive, it would take decades of constant political will and discipline to dig out of, even more so than we needed in the 90s, and I just don't see that happening. We can't even begin that climb until we stop the digging, and if anything it has accelerated, thanks in part to the A-hole down south. But we can't blame the majority of it on him, but rather our own stupid decisions.
As much as I love the actual countryside of Canada, and some of the vibes here, I'm increasingly disagreeing with the direction we're going as a responsible person who values hard work, integrity, intelligent policy decisions, and logic. Year after year of watching us destroy our prospects under the guise of false benevolence is a frustrating experience. Just ten years ago I never would have considered moving to the U.S., but the glow from south of the border is looking particularly rosy right now. Yes, they have plenty of problems as well, but at least the economic prospects are promising. If it were easier to relocate my business, I'd likely have already made that move when Trudeau was elected a third time. It's clear to me that Canadians have the wrong priorities to lead to prosperity and an overinflated sense of what they can accomplish in the world, while simultaneously cratering Canada's ability to actually influence the global stage.
We do have a great hobby scene, so there is that.
As much as I love the actual countryside of Canada, and some of the vibes here, I'm increasingly disagreeing with the direction we're going as a responsible person who values hard work, integrity, intelligent policy decisions, and logic. Year after year of watching us destroy our prospects under the guise of false benevolence is a frustrating experience. Just ten years ago I never would have considered moving to the U.S., but the glow from south of the border is looking particularly rosy right now. Yes, they have plenty of problems as well, but at least the economic prospects are promising. If it were easier to relocate my business, I'd likely have already made that move when Trudeau was elected a third time. It's clear to me that Canadians have the wrong priorities to lead to prosperity and an overinflated sense of what they can accomplish in the world, while simultaneously cratering Canada's ability to actually influence the global stage.
We do have a great hobby scene, so there is that.
I dunno.
Seems pretty basic.
Ever since Reaganomics and austerity things have gotten shittier and shittier.
The amazing this is watching people call for more of to fix the same problems.
Wage compression for men ended in the 1980s as we entered the polarized service based economy.. Maybe that is why professionals often have a distaste for the 1970s.
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Not in Canada. Chretien's austerity saved us from an economic cliff and set up a quite successful late 90s, whole 00s. Harper actually benefited from Chretien's actions, in this regard. We then forgot our own history and now we're back in the same hole we were in in the late 80s, if not worse. Unfortunately now, there's not enough political will to do the hard actions like Chretien did.
Its still neoliberalism, a more moderate form of austerity.
Now jobs don't pay a living wages, housing is too expensive, unions have been trashed and government is pandering to corporations and big money donors while services continue to be cut.
The problems that the right wingers usually complain about are either economic issues the result of austerity or the misdirection to blame minorities.
You clearly understand something virtually everyone who has the "I need to leave Canada" outlook fails to comprehend -- and that is the OP doesn't have a "Canada" problem or a "Toronto" problem, they just don't seem to understand that anywhere in the Developed World they go to they're going to have run straight back into different variations of the same things they dislike about Canada.I looked into leaving Canada a few years ago. The taxes I would have to pay when I collapsed my investments would be crushing. Plus I don't want to go to a 3rd world country so any exchange rate would most likely be a loss. Health care insurance would also be expensive.
Maybe look at moving to a smaller city when I want to move from a house to a apartment or a small town house.
So here I stay getting it up the ass by the liberals every day.
There's always places they can go, like Central America or Thailand, etc., but then they're going to be dealing with highly chaotic cultures where day-to-day life is ass-backwards compared to what we're used to, and that can oftentimes be enough to send those from the Developed World running back home.
It's the same old "the grass is always greener" conundrum.
It's just so much easier to blame Justin (even though he's gone) and the liberals for all their shortcomings.
Those problems aren't caused by austerity though. Low relative wages (and the spike in wealth disparity in general) are the result of globalization of trade and, to a lesser extent, technology. Expensive housing is the result of excess demand (aka immigration), regulation and expensive materials/energy. Unions haven't been trashed, not sure why you think that. The rate of unionization has declined very slightly over the last few decades, mostly as a result of manufacturing moving overseas (which unions partially had a hand in). And government corruption most certainly isn't the result of austerity. In fact, there's likely an inverse relationship.
Globalization of trade was part of austerity, to force down local wages through use of cheaper foreign workers. Same way we use Temporary Foreign Workers here while unemployment is still high, to make Canadian workers more desperate. Expensive housing isn't based on immigration, housing is way up in areas where immigrants haven't landed in Canada. Unions are under fire and the decline of the middle class is linked to the long term decline in unionization. Government corruption is mostly at the top, where you have people like DoFo handing off public assets like the LCBO, Ontario Place, Wasaga Beach, Greenbelt land to rich donors.
Yeah, the unionization decline has been in the private sector and has really had an impact on pension coverage for men.
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its good you now describe your own posts for us.what a crock of shit of a post...
you're so predictable...the tweets you post here are comedic gold...
I'm surprised that you expected better.what a crock of shit of a post...
Now I'm insulted.
To think that a guy that thinks posting El Risitas 25x a day thinks my posts are funny is really insulting.
