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Thinking of leaving Canada. Anyone else?

RZG

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As much of this thread is full of wise advice, it's still funny to read about fleeing Canada. If you lived where I live in Unsettling States, you'd all me like me: dying to MOVE to Canada.
Where are you living in the Excited States? I converse with a number of guys on motorcycle forums in the U.S....all over the country. Much like Canada they say every larger city has become a shithole with more rural areas still OK-ish, so far.
 

angrymime666

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Um, so then the question is ehat will you do with your time? Honestly if you are a builder of things you might want to reconsider selling the tools and the space to use them. Especially if they are a part if your core identity.
Over the past year I thought it would have been more of a problem but it really has taken a back seat to other things. I cook more, hike, learn new things and thought of taking on smaller ways to build like wood sculpting with hand carving tools. It's surprising how full my day is considering I'm retired. I still have my cordless tools but having a shop with all the tools I had was just another anchor from freedom.

Only having a 40 litre pack with all my possession on my back is becoming more appealing as I declutter. I can always buy new stuff...
 

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Over the past year I thought it would have been more of a problem but it really has taken a back seat to other things. I cook more, hike, learn new things and thought of taking on smaller ways to build like wood sculpting with hand carving tools. It's surprising how full my day is considering I'm retired. I still have my cordless tools but having a shop with all the tools I had was just another anchor from freedom.

Only having a 40 litre pack with all my possession on my back is becoming more appealing as I declutter. I can always buy new stuff...
That is the thing about personal stuff. It can own you instead of you owning it. Someone in the newspaper comments said "you never see a u-haul behind a hearse".
 
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As much of this thread is full of wise advice, it's still funny to read about fleeing Canada. If you lived where I live in Unsettling States, you'd all me like me: dying to MOVE to Canada.
Yeah, stay their. We don't need Americans bringing their issues up here. We have enough problems already.
 

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My family moved to Canada when I was one. I have always been proud to call myself Canadian. I still love Canada, but the relationship has gotten a bit rocky. Toronto very much feels like a big city and there is a lot that comes with being that. I am only speaking for myself and about how I am feeling. Many of you will not feel the same.
I am not young anymore, I am tired of the struggle. I am tired of working a job I hate because of the good benefits and pension plan. I am tired of the crowds, the noise and the ugliness. I am 3 years away from retirement and I will be 58. Now, I am thinking about what happens next. I'm divorced, the kids are grown and I have a small circle of friends.
Canada has become too expensive. It's getting hard just to keep up. I won't be able to stop working the ways things are going. This won't be me but, I see seniors still working or collecting empty bottles just to make it. I am killing myself for the privilege of living in a city that is decaying around me. I started to look elsewhere. My priorities were safety and cost. I have an EU passport, but the exchange rate from Canadian to Euro is bit much. South America, outside of a handful of countries has their safety issues. That lead me to Asia, South East Asia. I went to Hua Hin Thailand to see if it was a place I could retire to, I will be going back for a longer stay in February. First I spent a bit of time in Bangkok. A city of 12 million and there was order. No yelling, no one on the subway drinking alcohol, no one with their phone on speaker. Respect and order amid the chaos. I think I found my next home. I know nowhere is perfect, but a beer and a beach alongside respect and order sounds good to me.
Thanks if you made it this far. Does anyone else feel the way I do? Does anyone have their place, their Zihuatanejo?
If you live in Toronto you're not in Canada anyways.
 

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Its super sad that so many people are thinking the same way as you. Including myself. I'm looking at Mexico as a possible destination. Can still work from there and spend summers and the Christmas holiday up here.
 

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Youth struggling with unemployment.
Middle age population dealing with stagnant wages and inflated prices.
Elderly have been oversold and misguided what retirement in Canada will really be like.

Canada is messed up for a few generations with no fix on the way. All other options for living a prosperous life must be taken into consideration. You owe it to yourself, not your 'overlords'.
 
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My Uber driver last night used to rent a condo at Dundas/Ossington; it was a newer building, so no rent control. Eventually, he got squeezed out of there and ended up finding another condo to rent in Milton. There's no way he will ever be able to buy something decent, even with the recent decline in prices in the RE market.

Uber is a side hussle. He works remotely and gets paid in USD, and he's at the point now where he is ready to call it quits on Canada, sell his car, and move to Thailand permanently.

I asked him if he likes Asian girls; he said, "I guess I'm going to find out."
 

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Sounds like you are putting together a thought out plan, seems Thailand has mild to wild. I`d keep the connection to Canada and split for the winter months, as I age, I`m 68, I really dislike winters now. Perhaps downsize to a condo here, out of the GTA, with lower monthly costs, that you can lock and leave for the winter months. Thanks for starting this topic, you struck a chord with a lot of guys here, it`s been informative and helpful. Thailand would be my pick, any info is a plus.
If you are over 50 and meet the financial requirements of having around $30 000 Cnd in a Thai bank and a set monthly income, you can get the LTR, Long Term Retirement Visa. You would have to reapply every year though.
 

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Over the past year I thought it would have been more of a problem but it really has taken a back seat to other things. I cook more, hike, learn new things and thought of taking on smaller ways to build like wood sculpting with hand carving tools. It's surprising how full my day is considering I'm retired. I still have my cordless tools but having a shop with all the tools I had was just another anchor from freedom.

Only having a 40 litre pack with all my possession on my back is becoming more appealing as I declutter. I can always buy new stuff...
Good. You are still curious and want to learn. That imo is a key to a longer happier retirement. And small woodworking to maintain that part is awesome as well.
 

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If you are over 50 and meet the financial requirements of having around $30 000 Cnd in a Thai bank and a set monthly income, you can get the LTR, Long Term Retirement Visa. You would have to reapply every year though.
Interesting. I don't think foreigners are allowed to own houses but can own condos.
 
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jeff2

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Singapore is NOT CHEAP. rents and real estate there are INSANE.
I would imagine people pay through the nose in Singapore. And that free caning for men between 18 and 50 probably comes with some sort of fine depending on the offense.
 

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I would imagine people pay through the nose in Singapore. And that free caning for men between 18 and 50 probably comes with some sort of fine depending on the offense.
I think caning comes with a prison sentence as well.
 

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I have a friend in Toronto who helps people who are sick of the place to relocate. He told me that the top four destinations for people leaving are the east coast, Portugal, Florida and Mexico. I'm still operating my business and dont really want to retire (I'm 75), so I haven't thought about the issue too much. I think- if I were to retire- that Vietnam would be the most beautiful place to live, although the heat would defeat me personally. Newfoundland has a lot to recommend it, in my view, and you wouldn't have to go through any legal bullshit to move there. Also there are many great locations in the Caribbean and Latin America. When all is said and done, however, bad as it is, Canada IS our home, and we can always stay and duke it out with the Communist shitheads, sorry, I meant Liberals, who have so ruined it. I've lived in several countries, and believe me, here is not so bad.
 
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I was actually born and raised here, I used to love my country but the atmosphere in downtown toronto specifically is pathetic. I try to be patriotic but I feel like the government has fucked this country over. Unfortunately, it will never reach its full potential as long as Canada stays liberal. Our country simply lacks the balls to stand up to other nations. There needs to be a major shift in the government and policies in order for me to stay here. The states recently has been an option for me. Currently in uni but hoping to move to either Florida or Texas after I graduate.
I agree with your view on the current state of Canada. But personally, I would never move to the states. If it works for you then great.
 

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I think health care costs and quality have to be a big consideration as you get older. If you paid taxes here for decades, health care in your senior years is how you get your money's worth out of that.

My father moved to Canada in his 20s and he's now in his 80s. He has all the typical old man diseases like heart disease, diabetes, high blood sugar and cholesterol, etc. He's also had 4 heart attacks, 2 heart surgeries, 1 lung cancer surgery, and a partridge in a pear tree.

He takes like 20 pills a day for all his conditions, and if you looked at him right now you would never know what he went through. His day to day life is very typical, not encumbered much by his health conditions. Everything he dealt with was covered by OHIP. As much as everyone complains about health care here (and it has problems for sure), it still works well enough for many people.
 

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Thailand has constant changing visa requirements and there banking issues now too, some expats are having their bank accounts frozen now for some reason. I see the odd youtube videos on it.

In my opinion you could live pretty decent on 2k cdn a month, about 46k thai baht, that would be my minimum. Couldn't do much of the girly bar stuff though. Boredom is a factor as there's only so much exercise you can do and can only sit on a beach chair for so long. The heat 🥵 🔥 can be stifling and rainy season is no joke.

You probably meet acquaintances more than friends. People you think you like initially then find irritating after a week.
 
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