Epstein victims speak about Trump sexual abuse

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I just try to employ his breathing technique.

When you think about it deep down the guy is probably MAGA. ;)
I don't know if he's MAGA. I suspect the Evangelist in the video clip is a MAGA. Only because he's an Evangelist and most support Trump, not all but most.

I suspect MAGA will be standing up for him as they do for most grifters and abusers.

 

Phil C. McNasty

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For all you geniuses who think Trump was running a rub & tug massage parlor at his resort, dont you think Virginia Giuffre (the woman who accused and sued Epstein for million$) would have also accused and sued Donald Trump for million$ if he was guilty??

Lets see if you Lefties can rub 2 brain cells together and come up with an intelligent response.
I'm not holding my breath though 😂
 
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For all you geniuses who think Trump was running a rub & tug massage parlor at his resort, dont you think Virginia Giuffre (the woman who accused and sued Epstein for million$) would have also accused and sued Donald Trump for million$ if he was guilty??

Lets see if you Lefies can rub 2 brain cells together and come up with an intelligent response.
I'm not holding my breath though 😂
Could you please stop trying to bring common sense to this thread? :ROFLMAO:
 
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Frankfooter

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For all you geniuses who think Trump was running a rub & tug massage parlor at his resort, dont you think Virginia Giuffre (the woman who accused and sued Epstein for million$) would have also accused and sued Donald Trump for million$ if he was guilty??

Lets see if you Lefies can rub 2 brain cells together and come up with an intelligent response.
I'm not holding my breath though 😂
Guiffre took Epstein to court and won.
Epstein 'stole' her from trump's spa.
Sadly, she was also suicided.

 

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For all you geniuses who think Trump was running a rub & tug massage parlor at his resort, dont you think Virginia Giuffre (the woman who accused and sued Epstein for million$) would have also accused and sued Donald Trump for million$ if he was guilty??

Lets see if you Lefties can rub 2 brain cells together and come up with an intelligent response.
I'm not holding my breath though 😂
I don't think they actually believe it.

Like so many personal accusations, they think there is some political juice to squeeze here.
It will not have any impact on the 2026 midterms.

However, it does satisfy the progressive base's need to feel like they are fighting Trump.
Shaping some popular policies might work better. The problem is that not only requires appealing to the electorate, but also building a consensus within the Democratic party.
 
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For all you geniuses who think Trump was running a rub & tug massage parlor at his resort, dont you think Virginia Giuffre (the woman who accused and sued Epstein for million$) would have also accused and sued Donald Trump for million$ if he was guilty??

Lets see if you Lefties can rub 2 brain cells together and come up with an intelligent response.
I'm not holding my breath though 😂
I think I would rather follow relatively obscure Twitter commentators. ;)
 

Frankfooter

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I don't think they actually believe it.

Like so many personal accusations, they think there is some political juice to squeeze here.
It will have not have any impact on the 2026 midterms.

However, it does satisfy the progressive base's need to feel like they are fighting Trump.
Shaping some popular policies might work better. The problem is that not only requires appealing to the electorate, but also building a consensus within the Democratic party.
Lets see what we do know:

Epstein definitely was a pedo predator
Epstein island exists and the Lolita Express was real
Epstein was charged and likely killed in jail.
Maxwell was a willing partner and found guilty of trafficking children
Maxwell did give politically motivated testimony in exchange for a lenient sentence or parole
Multiple witnesses came forward and testified that trump and others were clients
The trump./Epstein connections are multiple and well documented
There were charges pressed against trump/Epstein for raping a child that were dropped after the victim reported death threats
trump has a long history of rape allegations and charges, including being adjudicated as a rapist and fined $83 million for slandering a victim
trump has a long documented history of paying off women

We don't have the video that Maxwell claimed exists but we do have multiple allegations from victims that are all credible.

Given this evidence a morally responsible person would say that they wouldn't support someone unless they were clearly exonerated on all cases.

 

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Test tube babies don't have those and as you're experiencing it definitely has an affect on your ability to spell. 🤦‍♂️ :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Seeing as you want to go down the grade school path... it's 'effect' in your sentence, not "affect".

I'll let your biology claim pass as a sad attempt at humour. 😜
 

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Given this evidence a morally responsible person would say that they wouldn't support someone unless they were clearly exonerated on all cases.

Ever notice how the rabid right winger types always seem to immediately demand execution, deportations, lifetime sentences for anyone brown, or other 'pedos' even so much as adjacently accused or suspected of anything in anything so much as a post on the Xittter?

Yet, when it comes to Trump, a self-admitted sexual assaulter, they insist on "irrefutable evidence" and semantics when it comes to Trump's lifetime criminal and civil history.

When Trump has literally tens of thousands of civil lawsuits for breach of contract and outright fraud, most of the opposing parties have few, if any other lawsuits in their lives?

There's a saying...you will meet assholes in your life, but if everyone you meet is an asshole...you're the asshole.

Same goes for people that sue everyone or get sued a lot.
 

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Ever notice how the rabid right winger types always seem to immediately demand execution, deportations, lifetime sentences for anyone brown, or other 'pedos' even so much as adjacently accused or suspected of anything in anything so much as a post on the Xittter?

Yet, when it comes to Trump, a self-admitted sexual assaulter, they insist on "irrefutable evidence" and semantics when it comes to Trump's lifetime criminal and civil history.

When Trump has literally tens of thousands of civil lawsuits for breach of contract and outright fraud, most of the opposing parties have few, if any other lawsuits in their lives?

There's a saying...you will meet assholes in your life, but if everyone you meet is an asshole...you're the asshole.

Same goes for people that sue everyone or get sued a lot.
Must be some crazy combination of tribalism and sunk cost fallacy at this point. They've bought into it for so long that there is no way they can change their minds without a major realization that would be life shattering. To accept that they backed a conman pedo for this long is just impossible.

So even if Maxwell released all the video she claims she had they'd start declaring it was AI or something.

There must be studies on what happens to people after they leave cults and how they recovered.

 
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SchlongConery

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Must be some crazy combination of tribalism and sunk cost fallacy at this point. They've bought into it for so long that there is no way they can change their minds without a major realization that would be life shattering. To accept that they backed a conman pedo for this long is just impossible.

So even if Maxwell released all the video she claims she had they'd start declaring it was AI or something.

There must be studies on what happens to people after they leave cults and how they recovered.

You are dead on with the tribalism and sunk cost fallacy.

And there is lots of research and therapy on recovering from being in a cult.

Even IF the person is willing, and not dragged in by family members, it is a hard thing to overcome. And the cults (think Scientology, organized religion... especially Islam, and Mormonism etc) already allow and plan for desertion with messaging to confound.

LOTS of stories, books, articles and YT vid's, on people who have escaped cults. Including Trumpism.
 

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Yes but what an influencer claims and reality are two different things. Yes he could handle the cold more than most and was in good shape to be able to accomplish some of the things he did but deep down he's just a grifter.

There is an increasing trend of people buying into completely unscientific and dangerous health and wellness advice.
Especially since Rogan and his band of quacks became so famous.
- Taking TRT
- Doing excessive workouts to the point of brutalizing oneself that the human body was never designed to endure.
- Rejecting established science and medicine and instead relying on bullshit "holistic" nonsense.
- Rejecting established pharmaceuticals and vaccines.
- Doing extreme fad diets like the carnivore diet or what have you.
- Obsessing over obscure nutrients and taking non FDA approved drugs and supplements.
All wrapped up in a convenient masculinity narrative.
Such a load of bullshit. lmao.
 
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