Charlie Kirk Shot in the Neck in Utah (Update: Shooter Alt-right links)

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Yes, I can.
Political violence has always been a part of the American political landscape. It's not really new.
Historically, our political debates have been quite intense. Some extreme people are agitated and motivated enough to believe they can make a difference through violence. We might both deem a lone wolf as unstable, but that is a different discussion.

No one is saying you, squeeze, mandy and others are directly supporting political violence. We just think you take a cavalier attitude towards this violence.
“Yes I can”

Proceeds to provide zero examples or statistics to back up his claims.
 

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Are you serious? Did you not watch the video? Charlie Kirk died arguing in bad faith blaming mass shootings on trans people and gang violence right before he was shot.
Are you serious? Charlie kirk didn't die because he was debating...he died because he was shot...we're not watching the same video are we?
 
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Do you even understand why he said that? the Dems are trying to bury DePape...he wasn't a republican...LoL
Because he was a piece of shit that argues in bad faith? Also wasn’t DePape a Trump supporter?
 

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Are you serious? Charlie kirk didn't die because he was debating...he died because he was shot...we're not watching the same video are we?
You tried to argue that Charlie Kirk wasn’t transphobic or racist but the words that came out of his mouth literally right before he died were disparaging trans people and a racist dog whistle attributing mass shootings to gang violence.
 

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“Yes I can”

Proceeds to provide zero examples or statistics to back up his claims.
Have you been on TERB much.

I get interrogated relentlessly about the most inane stuff. Any answer I give guys like Shaq is going to be disputed and quibbled to death.

Let me ask you a question. Don't you think the U.S. has political violence from both far right and far left elements? Kherg started a list.
Are some of the bad actors unstable? Of course, but that doesn't change the fact that politics was their motivation.

My point was not to start a tit-for-tat list of violent politically-motivated acts. In my opinion, progressives (not all Democrats) are far too cavalier about political violence against right wing targets.

Well, if he only kept his mouth shut. He made himself a target. He upset too many people.
 
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Have you been on TERB much.

I get interrogated relentlessly about the most inane stuff. Any answer I give guys like Shaq is going to be disputed and quibbled to death.

Let me ask you a question. Don't you think the U.S. has political violence from both far right and far left elements?
Are some of the bad actors unstable? Of course, but that doesn't change the fact that politics was their motivation.
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Has the shooter been arrested yet............crickets...........

A high powered rifle has been found. The longer this goes on the more convinced I am that the White House is riddled with FSB moles.
 

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You're a smart guy how do think AI accumulates opinions?

We have all read about mass shooting over the years. The shooters are generally incoherent. Case and point, the recent shooter in Minneapolis.

By the way, you're missing my point. If you follow the discussion closely, I never said that there is more political violence from the left than the right. I called out the Progressive Left's reaction to violence against right wing targets.
 

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You're a smart guy how do think AI accumulates opinions?

I think we have all followed mass shooting over the years. The shooters are generally incoherent. Case and point, the recent shooter in Minneapolis.
The recent shooter in Minneapolis was a Republican supporting Trump. You’re literally proving my point.
 
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Do you even understand why he said that? the Dems are trying to bury DePape...he wasn't a republican...LoL
Ritchie, are you ever right about anything??? This is from his own attorney.



"The reason he acted had nothing to do with Nancy Pelosi [and her] official duties as a member of Congress," defence attorney Jodi Linker told the court.
Instead, Ms Linker said he was driven by right-wing conspiracies that blame the country's demise on corrupt elites who use their status to spread lies, including facilitating the sexual abuse of children.
"Members of the jury, many of us do not believe any of that," Ms Linker said. "But the evidence in this trial will show that Mr DePape believes all these things… with every ounce of his being."


Testifying in federal court in his own defense, David DePape appeared somewhat nervous and became emotional at times as he shared examples of conspiracy theories he felt were true, providing insight into his motivations before the attack on Paul Pelosi in the early hours of October 28, 2022. DePape, who described his political leanings as “right of center,” told the jury he had believed the media was distorting or lying about former President Donald Trump and that “everything was a lie coming from the press.
 

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LMAO......what did I tell you????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😂
If the shooter wasnt transgender himself, he definitely was a transgender supporter.
Holy fuck I'm good :cool:

Wall Street Journal reporting this just now:


Ammunition in Kirk Shooting Engraved With Transgender, Antifascist Ideology: Sources

Investigators found ammunition engraved with transgender and antifascist ideology inside the rifle, sources said. Justice Department officials cautioned that the investigation was still in its preliminary stages.
 

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The recent shooter in Minneapolis was a Republican supporting Trump. You’re literally proving my point.
No, my point was many progressives are too cavalier and flippant about political violence against the right.

You want to act as a scorekeeper of political violence. That's your thing.
How bout without condition stating it's all wrong regardless of the victim's political views.
 
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