Charlie Kirk Shot in the Neck in Utah (Update: Shooter Alt-right links)

martel2l

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Stochastic terrorism is demonizing them.
He called them a "throbbing middle finger to god".
He said - “transgenderism and gender ‘fluidity’ are lies that hurt people and abuse kids" and argued that people shouldn’t be allowed to declare their own gender or sex freely.
He claimed - “direct connection to inflation and the trans issue"...which doesn't even make sense.
All of which tie trans issues to religion, child abuse (and therefore a very personal topic to many), and inflation (which directly causes economic difficulty).
Stochastic terrorism 101.
So it s impossible to say that transgender is a lie and is just a mental fantasy because it might cause people to kill transgenders? Basically you are denying him the right to make statements about the natural world based on an unsupported fear that maybe someone somewhere will decide to kill a transgender even though absolutely nothing he says suggest enacting violence against them.

You belong in North Korea clapping in synch with your pal kim.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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can I call you a scumbag too, because your hate speech is affecting me

in fact weren't you already banned permanently from this forum for constantly calling everybody racist?
I've repeatedly said I have never had an account here before.
I reported your post for trolling.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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So it s impossible to say that transgender is a lie and is just a mental fantasy because it might cause people to kill transgenders? Basically you are denying him the right to make statements about the natural world based on an unsupported fear that maybe someone somewhere will decide to kill a transgender even though absolutely nothing he says suggest enacting violence against them.

You belong in North Korea clapping in synch with your pal kim.
How are transgender people a "lie". They exist.
And he didn't just call them a lie.
He said they were corrupting your kids etc.,
He assigned blame to them for things they never did or advocated for.
What could have been the possible reasons to do that?
 

martel2l

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How are transgender people a "lie". They exist.
And he didn't just call them a lie.
He said they were corrupting your kids etc.,
He assigned blame to them for things they never did or advocated for.
What could have been the possible reasons to do that?
Calling it a lie obviously means that a man who believes he is a woman isnt really a woman, he s still a man, that s where the lie comes from. All of that is obvious, you are wrongly interpreting things he says and using slippery slope concept of stochastic terrorism to shut these people down. Again, does not belong in free civilized society.
 

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If speaking out against bigotry and racism is “hatred” then so be it
So be it, and you have just proved it by saying the words, bigotry and racism. Because if someone does not agree with the Democratic Party of Hatred that the other side is just racists and bigots, then you have swallowed the Kool-Aid of the Democratic Party of Hatred.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Calling it a lie obviously means that a man who believes he is a woman isnt really a woman, he s still a man, that s where the lie comes from. All of that is obvious, you are wrongly interpreting things he says and using slippery slope concept of stochastic terrorism to shut these people down. Again, does not belong in free civilized society.
He called them a "throbbing middle finger to god".
He said - “transgenderism and gender ‘fluidity’ are lies that hurt people and abuse kids" and argued that people shouldn’t be allowed to declare their own gender or sex freely.
He claimed - “direct connection to inflation and the trans issue"...which doesn't even make sense.
Those were his words.
 
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sympathy means compassion which even Buddha preached

empathy relates to liberal virtue signaling of feelings and emotions

don't forget the famous words of your previous leader

"people experience things differently"
Kirk's brand of sympathy would be feeling regret as he sent gay kids off to conversion camps, and trans people to asylum for lobotomy and electroshock therapy.

Empathy is a far better definition of compassion that helps people. Trying to understand someone is the highest form of compassion.

And what's wrong with acknowledgement of feelings. Seems to me his supporters are primarily concerned with Charlie's followers feelings here. To not acknowledge feeling as part(not whole) of the conversation about Charlie's ethos, and his impact on people is ridiculous.

Hurt people enough, threaten their existence, deny them dignity, and this type of violence is the result.

Kirk was polite, reasonably well read, and came into this at 18 with honest intentions to his own belief system. And intelligent and well organized enough, with enough charisma to become a "face" of the New Right. But he reminded more of the Preacher from Footloose than a true follower of Christ. He saw the Old Testement as valid. And any sympathy he had was reget the fallen couldn't be saved to his narrow minded ethos, and so need to be left behind.

He is, quite simply, the type to turn his own gay child out the street, rather than embrace them.
 

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So be it, and you have just proved it by saying the words, bigotry and racism. Because if someone does not agree with the Democratic Party of Hatred that the other side is just racists and bigots, then you have swallowed the Kool-Aid of the Democratic Party of Hatred.
Is your IQ in the low double digits or something? Charlie Kirk was literally blaming mass shootings on trans people and a racist dog whistle attributing it to gang violence right before he got shot in his neck. He was literally spewing bigotry and racism the moment he got packed. Now with that being said I’m rolling a blunt tonight and smoking on that Charlie Kirk pack
 
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martel2l

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He called them a "throbbing middle finger to god".
He said - “transgenderism and gender ‘fluidity’ are lies that hurt people and abuse kids" and argued that people shouldn’t be allowed to declare their own gender or sex freely.
He claimed - “direct connection to inflation and the trans issue"...which doesn't even make sense.
Those were his words.
If it didnt make sense to you, then take a step back and stop being so sure he was a "stochastic terrorist".

"Middle finger to god" sounds about right for a Christian, he could say the same for homosexuality and it is perfectly coherent with his religion and it s also non violent speech.

Christians do try to convert gays back to heterosexuality right? They certainly dont advocate to kill them, so how could it be a call to violence? Again, you interpret things in the worse possible way then call it "stochastic terrorism". Pathetic.
 
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rlnga

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A perfectly typical reply from a member of the Democratic Party of Hatred
If someone doesn’t agree with your bigotry and your hatred, then they do not have a brain
typical typical typical typical
Please please pleaseeeeee quote where I made a bigoted statement. I would love for you to show me.
 
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