Charlie Kirk Shot in the Neck in Utah (Update: Shooter Alt-right links)

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He's a Mormon


"Neighbors of the Robinson family told USA Today that they attended the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, whose members are colloquially known as Mormons."

 

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Well he did take a side. We just don't know the exact motivation yet.

I'm curious about his dating history. Going out on a limb I wonder if he was somehow closeted in Utah. Looks like a religious family as the dad took him to a preacher/law enforcement friend to get him to surrender.

Why does everyone have to "take a side" in your world? Can't people be just crazy, have legit mental illness depression, schizophrenia, social isolation or jsut be fucked up by living in a dysfunctional religious, right wing, gun toting family neighbourhood and state? Like Mormons who wear fucking Holy Underwear?!?! Imagine being a normal kid who gets indoctrinated by their Mormon Priest father and all the rest of the stuff that he would have to go along with. But feeling that a lot of their teachings don't make sense. Maybe the kid was gay himself and felt that he couldn't come out without being cast out by his father and family.

So back to taking sides... Get out-SIDE for a while and get outside your Political Terrarium. In real life, I almost never hear talk of politics or religion.
 

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I have a strong suspicion that many of the MAGA accounts on Twitter are actually bots from Russia whose job it is to sow hatred and post incendiary content.
Why do Russian bots have to be partisan?
I have a strong suspicion they try to work up both sides.
 
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I am speculating the weapon is going to turn out to be an Epstein .17 cal fitted with a Distractor
There's no disputing that you have a lot of knowledge of firearms. ;)
 

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Why does everyone have to "take a side" in your world? Can't people be just crazy, have legit mental illness depression, schizophrenia, social isolation or jsut be fucked up by living in a dysfunctional religious, right wing, gun toting family neighbourhood and state? Like Mormons who wear fucking Holy Underwear?!?! Imagine being a normal kid who gets indoctrinated by their Mormon Priest father and all the rest of the stuff that he would have to go along with. But feeling that a lot of their teachings don't make sense. Maybe the kid was gay himself and felt that he couldn't come out without being cast out by his father and family.

So back to taking sides... Get out-SIDE for a while and get outside your Political Terrarium. In real life, I almost never hear talk of politics or religion.
I'd say killing a person is a decision making moment. And every indication at this point is he was a normal guy. No reports of erratic behavior. In school for a trade. Family and friend connections. No social media rants.

Notice I didn't say which side, just that he made a decision that Kirk was enough of a threat to his beliefs that he needed to be killed. Until he tells us, we don't know. By the same token until a diagnoses of mental illness comes into play I'm assuming he is sane, sober. Add in no manifesto, and an attempt to plan to get away, including dumping the weapon and switching clothes, shows some intelligence.

I'm out all the time. Without politics, I come here to get my fix.
 

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He's a Mormon


"Neighbors of the Robinson family told USA Today that they attended the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, whose members are colloquially known as Mormons."

In Utah.......so, if he wasn't would have been a surprise.
 

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These asshole seem to be interpreting manufacturer's case stamped headstamps as being some sort of shooter engravings.

If any of this is true, Trump's Fed's are outright incompetent, if not stoking unrest with "fake news".
I would believe that the FBI guys in Utah have a lot of experience and weren't hired under a Trump Administration.

Like every large organizations, they have their own biases as individual and collectively. However, let's be patient and see where this all plays out.
 

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Charlie Kirk never hurt anyone and never displayed the ignorant disrespect to a murder victim that you have
Does callously dismissing thousands of innocent firearm murder victims as the price society pays for the Second Amendment not display a lack of respect?

But noting the irony of of him literally being shot in the vocal chords, maybe FOR saying the above, is disrespectful?

I'd argue that Mr. Kirk died doing exactly what he loved. And by noting it, it respects the core value of his devotion to the Second Amendment. 😉
 

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Does callously dismissing thousands of innocent firearm murder victims as the price society pays for the Second Amendment not display a lack of respect?

But noting the irony of of him literally being shot in the vocal chords, maybe FOR saying the above, is disrespectful?

I'd argue that Mr. Kirk died doing exactly what he loved. And by noting it, it respects the core value of his devotion to the Second Amendment. 😉
If anything should come out of this it should be how idiotic the idea is that gun deaths are an acceptable cost of the second amendment.
 

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On the slopes of Mount Parnassus, Greece
“This is not good for us. It is not good to consume,” said Cox. “Social media is a cancer on our society right now.”

Cox added that “we are not wired as human beings” to process hatred and violence to which people are constantly exposed on the internet.

“I would encourage people to log off, turn off, touch grass, hug a family member, go out and do good in your community,” he said.


Governor Spencer Cox gave a great speech here.
 

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Mormons have those sovereign citizen or remnants of the Independent Party types. They think the Republicans are too liberal. The Bundy's are examples.
Just another brand of right-wing extremist Christians. But they usually stick to themselves and aren''t armed in their house in Texas praying for some n*@@r to break into their house or knock on the door of their Castle so they can blow his head off.

But yeah, we hear your bigotry. 👌
 

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I'd argue that Mr. Kirk died doing exactly what he loved. And by noting it, it respects the core value of his devotion to the Second Amendment. 😉
I'm not going wink here...Charlie never got a chance to defend himself with his Second Amendment rights and thats the issue.
 

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So objective that you are so absolutely sure "stats" are made up by leftist rags and not at all objective without providing 'alternate facts'? 😂

Now ^that^ is some funny ...word-by-word...shit that you can't just make up. 🤡
Why would anyone really care how much of a type of garbage exists on Twitter versus another type of garbage?

There's a lot of garbage. If one goes looking for a certain type of garbage, they can find more than they can humanly read.
 

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Why do Russian bots have to partisan?
I have a strong suspicion they try to work up both sides.

Yes indeed. But they know one side is far more easy to get lathered up... and their bet on Agent Krasnov has paid off so keep milking that herd! Lib's are all talk, no guns... so they are weaksauce.

Mere chum for the waters of discontent.
 
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