Charlie Kirk Shot in the Neck in Utah (Update: Shooter Alt-right links)

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But there was no evidence FCC will not approve their merger application. Nexstar wasn't strong-armed to pull out the show in 65 of their channels...they did it themselves...and ABC suspended the show indefinitely themselves...the show is tanking because it is no longer a "talk show", it was a political mouthpiece for the left and it has not been funny for quite some time...there was a paradigm shift on the audience, JRE and podcasts have taken a huge piece of their audience...Theo Von, Shane Gillis etc etc...Craig Ferguson was the best of those talk shows because he wasn't political. Jimmy Fallon saw the writing on the wall so he mellowed down...

You're fundamentally misinformed on the basic facts. Nexstar is already a partner in 200 local ABC affilliates (franchises). They are in the process of attempting to acquire the shares of TEGNA who has interests in 65 local stations.

Also, the FCC application has not even been made yet. The merger has only been proposed . So your absolutist statement of trying to assert a negative fails.

There is, however, direct evidence of the FCC Chairman's intention to (unlawfully) interfere in the process... unless "..these companies take action, frankly, on Kimmel or..."...from his own mouth.


"On Benny Johnson’s podcast, Carr called Kimmel’s comment “some of the sickest conduct possible.”

“There are avenues here for the FCC, so there are some ways in which I need to be a little careful, because I could be called wholly to become a judge on some of these claims that come up.”

He added, “Frankly, when you see stuff like this, I mean, we can do this the easy way, or these companies can find ways to change conduct, to take action, frankly, on Kimmel, or there’s going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.”
 

bver_hunter

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Foreign disinformation about Charlie Kirk's killing seeks to widen US divisions
Russia moved quickly to exploit conservative activist Charlie Kirk's shooting death at a Utah college, with groups linked to the Kremlin spreading false and misleading claims that experts say are designed to incite violence

Russia moved to amplify online conspiracy theories about Charlie Kirk's killing just hours after it happened, seeding social media with the frightening claim that America is slipping into civil war.

Chinese and pro-Iranian groups also spread disinformation about the shooting, with those loyal to Iran's interests backing antisemitic conspiracy theories while bots linked to Beijing claimed that Kirk's death shows that the United States is violent, polarized and dysfunctional.

America's adversaries have long used fake social media accounts, online bots and disinformation to depict the U.S. as a dangerous country beset with extremism and gun violence. Kirk’s killing has provided another opportunity for those overseas eager to shape public understanding while inflaming political polarization.

“Charlie Kirk’s Death and the Coming Civil War,” tweeted Russian ultranationalist Alexander Dugin, whose influence earned him the moniker “ Putin's brain," referring to Russia's president. Pro-Russian bots blamed Democrats and predicted more violence. Russian state media published English-language articles with headlines claiming a conspiracy orchestrated by shadowy forces: “Was Charlie Kirk's Killer a Pro?”

Foreign disinformation makes up a tiny fraction of the overall online discussion about Kirk’s death, but it could undermine any efforts to heal political divisions or even spur further violence.

“We've seen multiple Russian campaigns attempting to exploit" Kirk's killing, said Joseph Bodnar, senior research manager at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue. In many cases, the campaigns aren't adding new claims but are recycling ones that emerged from American users. “They're picking up domestic actors and amplifying them.”

In each case, those spreading the disinformation have tailored it for their own ends. Chinese propaganda has focused on the violent nature of Kirk's death, painting the U.S. as a nation of violent gun owners and political extremists.

Russian voices have tried to tie Kirk's death to U.S. support for Ukraine, even spreading a conspiracy theory that the Ukrainian government killed Kirk because of his criticism of that aid.

Pro-Iranian groups took a different tack, claiming Israel was behind Kirk's death and that the suspect was set up to take the fall. This conspiracy theory caught on with white supremacist groups in the U.S., showing how corrosive claims can easily spread onlinedespite oceans and linguistic and cultural barriers.

False and misleading claims can spread quickly following big news events as people go online to look for information. Artificial intelligence programs that can create lifelike video and audio can make it even harder to find the truth, as can AI chatbots that routinely offer up false information.

It happened again following Kirk's killing, when misinformation about the shooting and the suspect quickly spread online.

In recent years, groups looking to spread confusion or distrust have seized on hurricanes, wars, the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, the COVID-19 pandemicand other disasters, as well as the attempted assassinations of President Donald Trump.

The details vary, but the conspiracy theories pushed by foreign adversaries all suggest American institutions — the government, the media, law enforcement, health care — are failing and can no longer be trusted, and that more violence is likely.

Regardless of the source of the information, social media companies should do more to stop both foreign disinformation and domestic calls for violence, said Imran Ahmed, CEO of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, which tracks online disinformation.

Posts calling for retaliatory violence following Kirk’s death have been seen 43 million times on X alone, according to the center's research, though it can’t say which posts came from foreign sources.

Platforms like X “are failing catastrophically to limit the reach of posts that celebrate murder and mayhem,” Ahmed said.

Russia, China and Iran have all denied targeting Americans with disinformation. Officials in China have specifically pushed back on claims that Chinese social media bots are being used to amplify false claims about the Kirk shooting.

“China condemns all unlawful and violent acts. That said, we firmly oppose some US politicians accusing China of ‘instilling disinformation and encouraging violence,'" a spokesperson for the Chinese Foreign Ministry posted on X.

For foreign adversaries looking to sow discord in the U.S., disinformation can be highly effective — and cheap. For authorities trying to keep the public informed, the false claims about Kirk's death are a potentially dangerous effort to hijack American discourse.

"There is a tremendous amount of disinformation we are tracking,” Utah Gov. Spencer Cox, a Republican, said at a recent press conference about Kirk's killing. “What we are seeing is our adversaries want violence. We have bots from Russia, China, all over the world that are trying to instill disinformation and encourage violence.”

Cox urged people to ignore bogus claims that seem designed to elicit fear — and suggested that Americans log off social media and spend time with family instead.


The above statement in Bold really amplifies the views of several of the usual righties on this Board!!
 

richaceg

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You're fundamentally misinformed on the basic facts. Nexstar is already a partner in 200 local ABC affilliates (franchises). They are in the process of attempting to acquire the shares of TEGNA who has interests in 65 local stations.

Also, the FCC application has not even been made yet. The merger has only been proposed . So your absolutist statement of trying to assert a negative fails.

There is, however, direct evidence of the FCC Chairman's intention to (unlawfully) interfere in the process... unless "..these companies take action, frankly, on Kimmel or..."...from his own mouth.


"On Benny Johnson’s podcast, Carr called Kimmel’s comment “some of the sickest conduct possible.”

“There are avenues here for the FCC, so there are some ways in which I need to be a little careful, because I could be called wholly to become a judge on some of these claims that come up.”

He added, “Frankly, when you see stuff like this, I mean, we can do this the easy way, or these companies can find ways to change conduct, to take action, frankly, on Kimmel, or there’s going to be additional work for the FCC ahead.”
I'm the "absolutist"? If there was no FCC application, how can you blame FCC for Nexstar and ABC's decision? LoL. the decision for suspension of Kimmels show was between Nexstar and ABC...nice of you to drag the FCC into this...you're grasping for straws.
 

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The gun doesn't know where the gun came from.

All that matters is who is the shooter and what is his intent.
All that matters is that the Shooter is a Mormon who was brought up to train with that rifle from a very young age by his MAGA Parents and Grandparents.
That gun belonging to a MAGA Conservative was then used by the shooter who was brought up in those traditional MAGA values, to kill this "Martyr"!!

 

richaceg

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All that matters is that the Shooter is a Mormon who was brought up to train with that rifle from a very young age by his MAGA Parents and Grandparents.
That gun belonging to a MAGA Conservative was then used by the shooter who was brought up in those traditional MAGA values, to kill this "Martyr"!!

So you delve into his childhood but not the last 2 years where he admitted he is a lefty with a transitioning boyfriend...talk about deflection...nice touch on a picture of a kid...
 

bver_hunter

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So you delve into his childhood but not the last 2 years where he admitted he is a lefty with a transitioning boyfriend...talk about deflection...nice touch on a picture of a kid...
Where did he "admit that he is a lefty"? Kirk was known to constantly attack those who are trans in his hate speeches.
Kirk then used his upbringing in training with the use of a gun that his MAGA parents and grandparents are responsible for the safe keeping of such weapons.
But you lost the whole point of what my original response to oracle's meme was all about!!
 

richaceg

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Where did he "admit that he is a lefty"? Kirk was known to constantly attack those who are trans in his hate speeches.
Kirk then used his upbringing in training with the use of a gun that his MAGA parents and grandparents are responsible for the safe keeping of such weapons.
But you lost the whole point of what my original response to oracle's meme was all about!!
Charlie Kirk didn't attack trans, he challenged the logic they are trying to make up. The left was simply violent that's all and you seem to be ok with it...
 

bver_hunter

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Charlie Kirk didn't attack trans, he challenged the logic they are trying to make up. The left was simply violent that's all and you seem to be ok with it...
What disinformation are your trying to spread? This is clearly what Kirk stated:

Charlie Kirk: “We need to have a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor”


:rolleyes: :mad:

By the way most violent crimes have been committed by the Far Right. Get your facts right for once!!
 
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