NO KINGS PROTEST

silentkisser

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Nope. It clarifies a very simple concept. If you loose control of your borders, you loose your sovereignty and your descendants wind up like our current First Nations.
First, people will continue to sneak into the US. It feels like you are more concerned about brown folks from the south, when there are probably a few hundred thousand or million Canadians or Europeans living in the US with expired visas. But the point here is that the US has NOT lost control of its border. The numbers the right throws out are usually nonsensical and to be frank, impossible to verify. I'm sure that even now, with Trump's deportation routine, there are probably a few hundred folks sneaking across the southern border every day. And, anyone who thinks this is a simple concept might be a simpleton. Because it is very complex. There is nuance and special circumstances, plus international laws and agreements.


Secondly, the hypocrisy of the right never ceases to amaze me when it comes to this bullshit. I can promise you there are a bunch of MAGA morons who were cheering on the idea of mass deportation, but now their businesses are hurting because they've lost cheap labour. So, landscapers, roofers, meat packing plants, farmers...they're all suffering.

If the US was so concerned about this, why don't the punish companies that hire the undocumented people? We've seen ICE raid factories and what not, but the managers/owners are never punished. Why is that? Will Trump change that? I mean, he allegedly had undocumented people working at Mar-A-Largo, Trump Tower and virtually all his other properties....
 

versitile1

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Fake fight videos?...Once again never happened.
Thanks for proving CNN is disingeuous.


There's that triggered word again...Love me a buzzword.
Yeah you did, the one where you thought a choreographed fight scene was real. Lol. There you go, focused on headlines and still refuse to denounce the violence coming from your side. Hey, you keep following me around and avoiding answering a simple question, so yeah, I’d say you’re triggered.
 

silentkisser

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And what of the hundreds of thousands+ that are waiting in the line to go through legal means of gaining citizenship?..The system is backlogged for years. Should your undocumented persons just be allowed to jump the queue with absolutely no vetting?
Of course not. I do not have the answers, but I do appreciate that you're giving some deeper thought to this. First, those that are doing it the legal way are likely asylum seekers or Dreamers. The ones that are undocumented are just that. Unknown and really have no legal ground. So, they are easy to deport. However, the vast majority of them are hard workers looking for more opportunities or a better life for their family. So, they pay taxes and contribute to their communicates, all while never being able to access social security or other tax-payer funded services (despite what the GOP says). So, to be clear, they are no jumping any queues.

Also, for the hundreds of thousands who were doing it the right way, how do you think they feel with ICE arresting people as they make their ways to an immigration court? That is pretty fucked up, and proves the point that they are going after the low-hanging fruit and not the hardened criminals they say are terrorizing the streets of America. Why are they going after those who are doing it legally, and ignoring the scummy folks who deal drugs, rape or kill? I mean, ICE has become a quasi paramilitary force now.
 

versitile1

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MAGA Christian pastor arrested for…. Yup, you guessed it.

 

Frankfooter

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Never been convicted of having sex with a minor...When he is you can call him that.
Back in the times when people were sane and had morals they would refuse to support people who are accused of serious crimes, they would do their own due diligence and try to hold politicians to much higher standards than the rest of us.

But MAGA has sunk so far that its all about finding rationalizations to back trump.
Convicted felon - weaponized legal system
adjudicated rapist - the word 'rape' doesn't appear in the ruling, who cares that there is no charge of rape in NY
convicted for fraud - that's smart business
tax fraud - smart business
charges against trump and Epstein of raping a 13 year old - they were dropped, who cares if was because of death threats
stealing state secrets - he was president and above the law
genocide - its not genocide because .....

so go ahead, tell yourself that you are morally superior because you are willing to back a pedo

 

The Oracle

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Back in the times when people were sane and had morals they would refuse to support people who are accused of serious crimes, they would do their own due diligence and try to hold politicians to much higher standards than the rest of us.

But MAGA has sunk so far that its all about finding rationalizations to back trump.
Convicted felon - weaponized legal system
adjudicated rapist - the word 'rape' doesn't appear in the ruling, who cares that there is no charge of rape in NY
convicted for fraud - that's smart business
tax fraud - smart business
charges against trump and Epstein of raping a 13 year old - they were dropped, who cares if was because of death threats
stealing state secrets - he was president and above the law
genocide - its not genocide because .....

so go ahead, tell yourself that you are morally superior because you are willing to back a pedo

Like I said he has never been convicted of having sex with minor...When he is convicted you can call him that.
 

Frankfooter

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Like I said he has never been convicted of having sex with minor...When he is convicted you can call him that.
Only if you agree that you should call him an adjudicated rapist, racist, felon and fraud artist.
If you are going by legal findings then those are the findings at court.

If you call him those terms and agree to only use legal findings as insults against all left wingers then we can have a deal.

Which means you can't accuse Trudeau of any crime.
 

The Oracle

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Only if you agree that you should call him an adjudicated rapist, racist, felon and fraud artist.
If you are going by legal findings then those are the findings at court.

If you call him those terms and agree to only use legal findings as insults against all left wingers then we can have a deal.

Which means you can't accuse Trudeau of any crime.
No jury convicted Trump of being an adjudicated rapist...It's a clever play on words but there was no legal finding...I think it was the Judges personal opinion which means squat.

Legal finding of being a racist?...That's a good one.

He is a convicted felon though...Can't argue that.

Now Justin loved to wear blackface does that make him a racist in your books?
 

versitile1

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“It’S tHe OtHeR CoUnTrY ThAt PaYs ThE tArIfFs!”

 
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Frankfooter

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No jury convicted Trump of being an adjudicated rapist...It's a clever play on words but there was no legal finding...I think it was the Judges personal opinion which means squat.

Legal finding of being a racist?...That's a good one.

He is a convicted felon though...Can't argue that.

Now Justin loved to wear blackface does that make him a racist in your books?
The judge declare that it was legally correct to call trump a rapist, adjudicated rapist is the correct legal term.
trump settled for a case that found his rental policy to be racially discriminatory in 1973. The court charged him with discrimination, which I'm sure you'll argue isn't racism.
Felon - agreed.
Don't forget he was found guilty of fraud as well.

That means you can't accuse Trudeau of racism because you think only legal verdicts carry weight.
So no, Trudeau isn't racist according to your terms.
He's not corrupt either.

nice work

Still leaves you backing an adjudicated rapist, convicted felon and fraud artist and a racist accused in court of being a pedo.
 

Frankfooter

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if it triggers you, then it's funny...nothing's more amusing than a guy throwing a fit over Trump...
It doesn't trigger me, its boring every time.
But thanks for admitting that your goal is to troll the board.
We all know it, but now the mods know it too.

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The Oracle

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The judge declare that it was legally correct to call trump a rapist, adjudicated rapist is the correct legal term.
trump settled for a case that found his rental policy to be racially discriminatory in 1973. The court charged him with discrimination, which I'm sure you'll argue isn't racism.
Felon - agreed.
Don't forget he was found guilty of fraud as well.
Judges personal opinion doesnt mean anything...As stated. I do give the Lincoln Project crew credit though for setting this whole thing up.
 
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