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Is the USA in decline?

Butler1000

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‘You’d be a fool to think the US is complacent.
Your stock market is, at the moment, so over based on AI investment it's actually drawing money away from other industries. Your farmers are getting fucked over, Your govt is under reporting economic stats.

The nation is well and truly divided. Your president is incrementally introducing martial law and trying to incite civil unrest. While grifting in the middle east. Meanwhile the government is shut down.

The fact you think all is well, just proves my point.
 
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Scaramucci is a gem. I encourage everyone to watch this — even if you’re Canadian. The video puts a microscope on what my country is currently going through, while shining a light of hope on what’s to come. This trump bullshit will soon pass 😊
 

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Wow, the top companies on america's market list are american.
What a surprise.

The real numbers are nowhere close to that and america's top companies are stores like walmart and amazon, that just sell Chinese products.
These are the most valuable firms in the world, not just those listed on a US market.
 

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Across the way
I will never right off the USA.

USA has been through a lot worse things than what is going on today. Slavery, Civil War, , Pearl Harbor, minority/women's rights, JFK assassination, Vietnam, 9/11

I would never bet against it. It always seems to bounce back no matter what.

It's a weird country. It's still the #1 place people want to immigrate to and it is still the strongest country out there. The military is ridiculous. The GDP is ridiculous. But, it's HEAVY in debt and doesn't want to provide free/cheap healthcare to its OWN CITIZENS for some reason.

USA's strength AND weakness is pure greed.
 

Valcazar

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I'm working for a company in the USA. canada and USA have a tax treaty so I wont be doubled taxed (to my understanding)
It's complicated.
Only a certain amount of money is covered by the treaty.
Make sure you double-check with someone who knows the ins and outs of the legal situation.
 
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I will never right off the USA.

USA has been through a lot worse things than what is going on today. Slavery, Civil War, , Pearl Harbor, minority/women's rights, JFK assassination, Vietnam, 9/11

I would never bet against it. It always seems to bounce back no matter what.

It's a weird country. It's still the #1 place people want to immigrate to and it is still the strongest country out there. The military is ridiculous. The GDP is ridiculous. But, it's HEAVY in debt and doesn't want to provide free/cheap healthcare to its OWN CITIZENS for some reason.

USA's strength AND weakness is pure greed.
Well, when it comes to healthcare, "cheap" has two meanings. One of the reasons USA always bounces back is because of the people who take care of themselves and not rely on the government. Why do you think Canadian doctors do not refill prescriptions over the phone anymore? Or why you need to see a doctor just to learn your blood test was OK. Because this is how doctors are get paid by government - per visit. The pay system is the same in the USA too, but insurance companies that pay these money to doctors care about the money and anything that can be done by the phone cheap and fast is done by the phone, anything that can be done by a nurse instead of doctors are done by nurses. The government does not care about the money much and lots get wasted. As a result, doctors in the USA are earning much more than in Canada and Canada has a shortage of doctors.
 

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Well, when it comes to healthcare, "cheap" has two meanings. One of the reasons USA always bounces back is because of the people who take care of themselves and not rely on the government. Why do you think Canadian doctors do not refill prescriptions over the phone anymore? Or why you need to see a doctor just to learn your blood test was OK. Because this is how doctors are get paid by government - per visit. The pay system is the same in the USA too, but insurance companies that pay these money to doctors care about the money and anything that can be done by the phone cheap and fast is done by the phone, anything that can be done by a nurse instead of doctors are done by nurses. The government does not care about the money much and lots get wasted. As a result, doctors in the USA are earning much more than in Canada and Canada has a shortage of doctors.
USA has a shortage of doctors as well. I was dating a girl for a minute and she was from Windsor I think and she was you know working in the USA and then she would go back home every now and then.
 

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It's complicated.
Only a certain amount of money is covered by the treaty.
Make sure you double-check with someone who knows the ins and outs of the legal situation.
You’re right it is very complicated. Just the thought of it is a huge turn off. I think it would be good for Canada to allow Americans to live there visa free. Y’know if I can make 100K in the USA and then live in a nice high-rise you know in Etobicoke or Toronto would be Life changing. I can pop all the international girls at the spas, head home, do some work, go to the gym, then relax. I don’t have to worry about stings, people shooting up schools, shooting me up, robbing me, no more trump, all that crazy shit. Just peace and quiet. All the times I’ve been in Toronto. I felt so much more safer than I ever was living in America. I love America. I was born here, but honestly, this place is extremely overrated.
 
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USA has a shortage of doctors as well. I was dating a girl for a minute and she was from Windsor I think and she was you know working in the USA and then she would go back home every now and then.
and it just confirms that working in the USA is better then in Canada
 

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If you are doctor, sure, but if you have to PAY for one not so much......
So, people who went through 4 years in college, had two gap years working mediocre jobs at health care, then spending 4 years at medical school, then 5 years residency (with mediocre pay and 60 hours/week work) and between any of these milestones facing a risk of not getting inn and had wasted all these years for nothing should be paid how much?
 

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So, people who went through 4 years in college, had two gap years working mediocre jobs at health care, then spending 4 years at medical school, then 5 years residency (with mediocre pay and 60 hours/week work) and between any of these milestones facing a risk of not getting inn and had wasted all these years for nothing should be paid how much?
I think medical school should be cheapened and subsidized. I think residency should be paid. And then depending on specialty anywhere from 2-5 hundred thousand a year.

What needs to be removed is insurance companies, outright. And a fee schedule for all procedures.
 

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You know you're in trouble when outsourcing is viewed as economic growth. The USA will never get its industry back.

 

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