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Do the dummies south of the 49th actually agree with moron Don ?

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Hopefully with my face in a pussy
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jalimon said:
The vaccine was first developed successfully out of warp speed by a team in Germany (led by a girl from Israel and Turkish scientist). Trump used warp speed to sign an executive order to make it mandatory for pharma to sell 300 million doses to the US first, bypassing other countries.

And warp speed left the impression to stupid Americans that the vaccine was developed on the fly and was not safe at all.
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I wonder if the anti-vaccine crowd would have looked at it differently if Trump had won and pushed it with mandates and all. We will never know but I suspect they would have been cheering it on.
 
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squeezer said:
I wonder if the anti-vaccine crowd would have looked at it differently if Trump had won and pushed it with mandates and all. We will never know but I suspect they would have been cheering it on.
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I don`t know. You know all of the ideas of Trump are not all wrong. But they are all badly executed. So they all turn to shit.
 
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jalimon said:
I don`t know. You know all of the ideas of Trump are not all wrong. But they are all badly executed. So they all turn to shit.
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I agree. It hurts, but I try very hard to tout his successes when they happen. The First Step Act, which freed incarcerated prisoners, was a very good bill that Trump signed into law. So, yeah, all his ideas are not wrong.

And this is going to sound crazy, but in a way, Trump is the most 'honest' president we've ever had in the states. I know he lies just because it's time for him to take a breath, but he has attempted to do every single thing he ran on. If he said he was going to do something while campaigning, evil though it might be, he is going to try to do it.
 
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DetroitBound said:
I agree. It hurts, but I try very hard to tout his successes when they happen. The First Step Act, which freed incarcerated prisoners, was a very good bill that Trump signed into law. So, yeah, all his ideas are not wrong.

And this is going to sound crazy, but in a way, Trump is the most 'honest' president we've ever had in the states. I know he lies just because it's time for him to take a breath, but he has attempted to do every single thing he ran on. If he said he was going to do something while campaigning, evil though it might be, he is going to try to do it.
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Greenland begs to differ.
 
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mandrill said:
Greenland begs to differ.
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Trump has been after Greenland since 2017. This is not new

A former Trump national security adviser in Trump's 2017-2021 White House said Trump first raised the idea about buying Greenland in 2017, and then became more serious about it in 2019.

That led to a series of White House meetings with Trump where advisers gave him options about how to increase U.S. influence over Greenland. Trump was publicly rebuffed by Denmark when his ambitions became public in U.S. media reports, and his administration ultimately took no steps to try to acquire the territory.

Just because he's not talking about it doesn't mean he's let it go. I believe he will attempt any means necessary to acquire it. And if he thinks he's unsuccessful, he'll try to do to them in a way that's similar to what he tried to do to Ukraine: Give us all your minerals and wealth or we'll cut off funding for your war. He'll make it difficult for Greenland to continue saying 'No.'

I believe he has that same itch of expansion that Putin has.
 
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DetroitBound said:
I agree. It hurts, but I try very hard to tout his successes when they happen. The First Step Act, which freed incarcerated prisoners, was a very good bill that Trump signed into law. So, yeah, all his ideas are not wrong.

And this is going to sound crazy, but in a way, Trump is the most 'honest' president we've ever had in the states. I know he lies just because it's time for him to take a breath, but he has attempted to do every single thing he ran on. If he said he was going to do something while campaigning, evil though it might be, he is going to try to do it.
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In a crazy, twisted way, you are right.

DetroitBound said:
Trump has been after Greenland since 2017. This is not new

A former Trump national security adviser in Trump's 2017-2021 White House said Trump first raised the idea about buying Greenland in 2017, and then became more serious about it in 2019.

That led to a series of White House meetings with Trump where advisers gave him options about how to increase U.S. influence over Greenland. Trump was publicly rebuffed by Denmark when his ambitions became public in U.S. media reports, and his administration ultimately took no steps to try to acquire the territory.

Just because he's not talking about it doesn't mean he's let it go. I believe he will attempt any means necessary to acquire it. And if he thinks he's unsuccessful, he'll try to do to them in a way that's similar to what he tried to do to Ukraine: Give us all your minerals and wealth or we'll cut off funding for your war. He'll make it difficult for Greenland to continue saying 'No.'

I believe he has that same itch of expansion that Putin has.
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He did mention Greenland in his first go around, but not during the election campaign and certainly never said a word about the Panama Canal or annexing Canada during his campaign. Then again, all I remember is something about eating cats and dogs. How the fuck they voted this clown in is something science will eventually figure out.
 
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In a crazy, twisted way, you are right.



He did mention Greenland in his first go around, but not during the election campaign and certainly never said a word about the Panama Canal or annexing Canada during his campaign. Then again, all I remember is something about eating cats and dogs. How the fuck they voted this clown in is something science will eventually figure out.
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I had read about the cats and dogs before the debate and thought 'no way he is going to bring that up.' But he did. And, being a naive idiot, I thought 'another Access Hollywood tape moment. We're done!' Then I realized that the Access Hollywood tape moment...fizzled.

I had a lot of conversations with some very conservative, biblical people after that tape came out. They all went something like this:

Me: Are you still going to vote for him?
Female: Yes
Me: Did you hear what he said?
Female: Yes
Me: Would you let your husband speak like that?
Female: No
Me: Would you let your son speak like that?
Female: No way! I raised him better!
Me: Would you let your daughter date a guy that said those things?
Female: That would never happen!
Me: But you'll vote for him?
Female: Yes! That's just locker room talk. Nothing wrong with it.
Me: (Beating my head against the nearest wall)

It still baffles my brain that people I knew and respected and thought highly of decided to jump on the Trump train.

And I still can't tell if Trump seduced them to change their beliefs or if they've always had those racial, nationalists, hateful beliefs and just kept them hidden until Trump said it was ok to say the evil out loud. That, for me, has been the scariest part of Trump. I tell people all the time 'Trump is Trump. He hasn't changed since the 80s and he's not about to change. He is doing exactly what he has always done. So he doesn't make me as angry as those who have 'changed' since 2015.'

That's the question that really will decide what happens next: Did Americans change because of Trump or did Trump allow Americans to be as they are now?

If we changed, we might be fixable. My personal belief is that a lot of people are now showing me and the world who they really are and who they have always been.
 
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dirtydaveiii said:
They can get thrown in jail or deported to a brutal El Salvadore prison if they speak out against the shit stain Don, but I am wondering if any shit licker rednecks actually believe what he is doing is good. Thoughts ?
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That's where MS-13 gang members who are wife beaters illegally inside the USA belong.

Stop defending scum. It's why you're on the losing side of every major issue of our time.
 
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DetroitBound said:
And I still can't tell if Trump seduced them to change their beliefs or if they've always had those racial, nationalists, hateful beliefs and just kept them hidden until Trump said it was ok to say the evil out loud.
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The latter.
When one's ulterior motive is to hurt people they hate, who cares about the quality of the blunt instrument (in this case Trump) used to do the hurting?
 
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Shaquille Oatmeal said:
I keep calling Trump and co Nazi, and we have many wannabe MAGA quislings here, who keep telling me he is not because he is not doing what they did during WW2.
WW2 came later.
I keep telling them to focus on what the Nazis did in the 20s and early 30s, their rhetoric and how they gained support to see the parallels.
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Even with that, I still think the Gilded Age stuff is closer to Trump in what he's going for than Nazi specifically.
 
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Bucktee said:
That's where MS-13 gang members who are wife beaters illegally inside the USA belong.

Stop defending scum. It's why you're on the losing side of every major issue of our time.
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How about wife beaters who are convicted felons, known sexaual predators and affiliated with the terrorist organization known as the proud boys? Is it OK if you are the grandson of an illegal immigrant ?
 
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DetroitBound said:
Trump has been after Greenland since 2017. This is not new

A former Trump national security adviser in Trump's 2017-2021 White House said Trump first raised the idea about buying Greenland in 2017, and then became more serious about it in 2019.

That led to a series of White House meetings with Trump where advisers gave him options about how to increase U.S. influence over Greenland. Trump was publicly rebuffed by Denmark when his ambitions became public in U.S. media reports, and his administration ultimately took no steps to try to acquire the territory.

Just because he's not talking about it doesn't mean he's let it go. I believe he will attempt any means necessary to acquire it. And if he thinks he's unsuccessful, he'll try to do to them in a way that's similar to what he tried to do to Ukraine: Give us all your minerals and wealth or we'll cut off funding for your war. He'll make it difficult for Greenland to continue saying 'No.'

I believe he has that same itch of expansion that Putin has.
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I think he is obsessed with Putin, adores him and wants to be him.

If Russia can invade neighbouring countries and take them over, Trump will try to do exactly the same dumb shit.
 
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Bucktee said:
That's where MS-13 gang members who are wife beaters illegally inside the USA belong.

Stop defending scum. It's why you're on the losing side of every major issue of our time.
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Except Garcia was here legally, Bucky.

Get the basic facts right.
 
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